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Yeah my drawing is really just to get an estimate of length. That support could be for a helix maybe or just extra supports.

@Jamberoo Fan i love your passion, that you are detailed, you explain yourself. BUT... im not sure whether it's your style of writing or an actual belief, but you are increasingly coming across as a "I know more than you do" "holy than thou" contributor. We have @loki75 join the conversation and offer up some info he feels comfortable sharing, and whilst we all receive anything unconfirmed with trepidation and an element of skepticism, you wrote post after post, and long drawn out ones at that, basically telling him he's wrong, but at the same time admitting you haven't seen the plans yourself so are only guessing. You need to ease back, not in your number of posts or your effort to get involved in topics, most of your stuff is quality, but you are starting to really overanalyse and over critique to the point your posts have gone from adding value to the conversation to now being about trying to prove you know more and everyone else is wrong.

Ryande 16 has really improved from what he/she used to be on parkz. You do not deserve negative rep, and have been talking real well on this thread not being an idiot anymore. Well done????? now if the coaster was as high as ur negative it would have to be renamed "abyss the 2nd"

Firstly, when you said this (below) I wasn't sure if you were hinting to me that I should look at the footing locations in current & future photos posted on Parkz or whether you had seen them on the plans yourself: Either way, I mainly asked because you said 'birds eye view' so some footings could be located directly underneath the track & thus potentially not exactly visible on the plans. Launches usually have footings underneath the track - same with brake runs. I look at DA plans quite often and applicants usually submit numerous plans for different elements of a project so my initial thought was that footing locations would be on a separate plan especially given some footings might be located directly underneath the track (builders would have a difficult time with plans that have some footing locations hidden by track) & that footing placement was the only part of the project that was of immediate importance in May. If the project was extremely secret, would they give the track layout plan to construction companies 6 months prior to track being installed? (They might need to - I really don't know) They recently advertised the tenders for track installation so it makes sense having track layout plans that were recently issued. Due to the reasons above, I simply couldn't imagine a plan that showed both the track layout & footing locations and that's why I asked if the footing locations were on the track layout plan you saw. That's also why I originally asked how do you know for sure it is a lift hill. I was just wondering if it was a guess based on the plans you've seen, whether you got multiple plans and you just joined the pieces together or whether there was a symbol/marking on the track layout plan that indicated 'chain/cable lift' or '(block) brakes' etc. Otherwise, you would need really detailed plans to know which footings match with what track parts particularly around the narrow area of the old security gate/checkpoint bridge - 2 separate pieces of track could be in that area & somehow you can tell which footings are for a lift hill (if any) & which aren't? Plans would also show where supports go - something you didn't exactly mention. A plan that shows footing locations, the track but not the supports doesn't convince me you know for sure where the lift hill is. If you had a plan(s) that shows all 3 - footings, supports & track, then it would be accurate and easy to tell where the lift hill is & I'd be more convinced. Out of all the possible answers I'd thought you'd response to my 'how you know it's a lift hill' question - guess, multiple plans, symbols/markings & sorry, confidential - you said footing/track positions near the station & I wasn't expecting that answer as everyone knows that a lift hill is on 1 of 2 sides of a station and that footings alone could mean anything particularly with something near a station (lift hill or brake run? - they are both in a straight line) and near a narrow location like the old security gate/checkpoint bridge. Mainly, I'm just not convinced yet that you interpreted the lift hill location correctly. Sorry I wrote a lot - couldn't explain my thoughts well enough but just to get a better idea of why I'm not convinced, I've made these 'artist impressions': If I replace 'lift hill' with 'track', I get: "track appears to run along the road from Justice League to GL then makes 90 degree turn right..." "and then under the track following it part of the way before breaking left to circle back into the station" On an aerial image, I imagine it like this (approximately): The pink section being the part that runs "under the track" & the red track going along the car park entrance road being 2 separate tracks (one heading north west & the other south east). From that layout, to involve a lift hill, I can imagine 2 versions: Version 1: Lift Hill on MW side & brake run on swamp side. Version 2: Brake run on MW side & lift hill on swamp side: Note: Supports are not meant to be accurate nor the track colours or type of drop. Version 2 isn't at a good angle to show the lift hill - it was just the best angle for me to figure out the minimum height for the hypercoaster based on the height of nearby landmarks. I based the lift hill on the lift hill of Lewa Adventure's Flash, which I believe is on a 45 degree angle so the height of the coaster pretty much matches the lift hill's ground catheti (Google Earth's scale might not be accurate - might want to check that ground catheti for accuracy on NearMaps @AlexB). @loki75, is the station in the right spot? Based on your description, I assumed that was the spot (though I'm not sure if the 'angle in relation to the road' is correct).

Haha i was young and innocent guys ? Thanks @Aw hype! i just have to much free time atm between year 12 exams, and btw how many girls do you know of that are called Ryan? ??

Yep now i get it This is by no means accurate at all, but i drew a rough sketch of what the coaster could be like to get a sense of the length of the ride(please dont bag my design Lol). The sketch that i drew is about 1050 metres in length from a birds eye view, so none of the hills and drops are include. But i think if those were included the track length would be anywhere from 1300-1600 metres depending on the height of different elements (eg. Loops, drops, ect.).

@Brad2912 I appreciate what you are saying here but to be fair, there are certainly people on this board that this opinion would apply to more than @Jamberoo Fan. Funnily enough, these posters are never checked or called out , even though this same criteria you have applied here to Jamberoo Fan would be a far truer statement for them. I understand that this is your opinion and perception, and I am not saying that it is wrong per se, however, I feel we need to apply a little bit of balance and consistency to all. For mine, I have had no issue with Jamberoo's posts, they are certainly far more welcome than some of the guff that occasionally gets presented here as serious conversation. Just my 2 cents worth

@Jamberoo Fan A. Adjusting nut B. Adjust and lock bolt together C. Lock bolt open. If you adjust one of these connections up or down. You will move the top of the pole by its length. In theory, the longest pole on Mr Hyper Coaster would be around 60m If you adjusted one of the connections up or down by 1cm you could move the top of the pole by 1.2m Once track is complete and all adjustments are made. The lock nuts are locked and the area between the footing and metal plate are filed with concrete. Why did I tell you this. No reason at all. Just had 5 min to kill at work

Thank you @Theme Park Girl I clipped your photo. This is the footing that a couple of members thought would fall over if hit by a car.

@Jobe that's a fair opinion to hold. Maybe the reason the reason these other people are not 'called out' is because they never usually offer any quality of note to discussion, and @Jamberoo Fan certainly does. Anyways, I didn't mean to derail the thread. Let's move on

Is That You Totta?

I'm fairly confident the CCTV would not be publicly released, but I do think we will see 3D modelling come out in any inquiry or inquest. This would probably be easier to 'stomach' and would still show the physics involved.

^That sucks. It's a shame you can't put your great TPG skills to use and be a theme park tour guide.

That's sucks @Theme Park Girl ive known a few people cop redundancies in the last couple weeks. Seems to be the time for it with financial strain and a lot of industries coming into a quiet holiday season. Wish you all the best, I'm sure your tee something up in the next 6 weeks, granted it is not the best time to be in the job market just before Xmas. Good luck!

If people really want to fake their count then go for it. It happens just about every time we add a new attraction to the database. At the end of the day there's so many scenarios where someone can legitimately check off "under construction" attractions (refurbishments, relocations, staff/public previews etc.) that it's easiest that we don't complicate things.

Can I just say Why Just why would you even click that button?

@Tim Dasco Energylandia

We already have a Ninja here, sorry. Creep it is.

Or Ninja......

Re the Golden tickets, there does actually seem to be very few big rides opening. The biggest thing CF are doing is Mystic Timbers and I don't think the mean streak RMC would open till 2018. Ditto SF are just putting in free spins. SW san Antonio is putting in a Jet Rescue sort of ride. Silver Dollar city have an unknown new coasters. Movie Park Germany is going to open their star trek mack launcher. Various Chinese parks are opening B&Ms. That's all the worthwhile announced stuff. Hopefully Australia will be the star!

I think at the moment 2017 will be MW's best chance of getting a Golden Ticket Award for best new attraction because there are not a lot being built. The USA is not getting many roller coaster this year (unless RMC Mean Streak opens this year) There are a few in Europe but as an overall its a quiet year for roller coasters. So its Movie Worlds best chance winning.

Here, have some new photos. Taken at lunchtime today:

ah... No. Don't go to Adelaide then...

Creep. i did post some excerpts from that article back when it was first posted.

Doesn't necessarily mean it's a lift hill - it could be the brake run. So the plans show where the footings are? It seems mainly like a guess on your part anyway, am I right?