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This is such a tragic accident and so soon after Dreamworld on a similar ride. My thoughts are with the family. I was at Drayton Manor last July on a return trip to the UK and their Director George Bryan showed me around. I have sent a message of support to the team this morning.

Ummmm okay, so I disagree. Yes the park is quieter. And we know these reasons. But there is definitely atmosphere. I went to the park for opening yesterday, and they have the opening dance party. There is music pumping, characters everywhere, dancers on the stage, and even general staff were happy and dancing. That doesn't happen at MW, they just keep you off the road during the parade and don't join in on the excitement (And that's one thing the parade is lacking lately, the characters are great, but don't think it is anywhere near as good as what it used to be). And to say the theming isn't obvious to Wipeout, claw, tailspin and even GD, come on. Wipeout has a bloody massive wave there. How is it not obvious. Tailspin has a plane. GD, has a sign out the front saying it's the Great Oil Company, with oil pumps. And the Claw is a beast, it has giant claws on the arms, and is crushing cars. I don't really think theming is lacking anywhere really. Could it be improved on for a number of rides, yes. But they've all got some. MDMC just has worn out theming, and could easily be replaced. The reason why we don't like it is because it is uncomfortable, and doesn't keep its sensation of speed. The Gold Rush county seems quiet because there is only the BuzzSaw and if you don't want to ride it you don't go to the area. I get your opinion and perspective on this, but to say DW has nothing going for it. That's where you are wrong, it has plenty going for it

Well that's a stretch if I've ever seen one

I for one would actually be over the moon if the mega thrill ride was called My Little Pony. But I appreciate my love for irony differs from most people.

Well doesn't that just look shit!!

For years, theme park fans have been going "you know what would be great? If WhiteWater World & Dreamworld merged." Now they're doing exactly that, and what do theme park fans say? Do you want to go inside or outside? Make up your mind already so I can close the door.

WB have commissioned something like 12 DC movies, and I think they're up to about number 3 or something. I think it's safe to say that DC is a big part of WB right now.

Totally obvious... how silly of us all..

Everyone seems to have identified similar problems with Dreamworld, so I'm gonna hijack the conversation and suggest some ideas for what could be done with GoldRush. Personally, I love GoldRush. I think it it has a lot of wasted potential. If I were to build a big new attraction at Dreamworld, I would build an RMC Hybrid Wooden coaster - with classic 'run away mine train' theming. Australia only has one woody and it is 106 years old. As much as I would love to see TRR redeveloped to be safer, Ardent have already committed to demolishing it, so there is a massive amount of land that could be developed into a tight twisting wooden coaster. I'd also love to see the old Mine Cart coaster demolished and replaced with a new wild-mouse - even a new concept like a Eurofighter/wildmouse hybrid. I'd also reopen the Log ride with new boats/elements/theming. In general, it would be nice to see DW just distribute their theming a little better. I think the beach theming of Ocean Parade is nice (except shockwave), the Dreamworks theming is good, and GoldRush has potential. Coroboree is really solid too. But there is just a bunch of random crap that is completely out of place. ToT, MDMC, V8 simulator, HotWheels and Kevil Hill all seem completely out of place in their respective areas. The park just needs to stop dumping randomly themed rides in places. But I think there is a lot of potential for GoldRush to become the 'coaster corner' of the park, with ocean parade being for flat rides. I'd also re-theme MDMC to anything else - give it new trains and free VR. It's a crappy ride, but being slow won't hurt it if it has a good VR story. Slow and painful motorbikes don't really lend themselves to a great narrative. Anyway, just my thoughts. I'm interested to see what everyone else would like to see there.

There were some large wooden pallets being dropped off in Dragon's Kingdom, today. Not enough for anything substantial, but it could be more cabanas; water playground stuff, like the rumoured kids' tornado; theming for the new ride or materials for the restaurant refurb. I still think the ride will be at the other end of the park. The dirt track behind where the circus was looks pretty well used.

Why do peoples' opinions matter? Ardent tried to run WWW as a separate park and they wouldn't incorporate it into DW if it was working. WWW is a great water area but Ardent needed to expand it if they wanted people to keep coming back. The last new attraction was 3 years ago, with Triple Vortex and 4 years before that with The Wedgie. One new attraction every 3 to 4 years is not going to make customers want to return every year.

Mission, Push etc, can I ask why you didn't make these posts here in the theming speculation thread in the first place? I had to manually move them here out of construction discussion.

Just sitting in the Movieworld carpark now enjoying some McDonald's and admiring this beast of a coaster. As said in a few posts, the photos don't do this thing justice. The impression you get as you turn into Movieworld, this coaster just blows you away. The large crane is currently maneuvering into a new position . There is not much track left in the holding yard but there is still 6 containers that look like they haven't been unloaded yet.

The best pieces of track currently being installed, carrying on from this point

Found these colours interesting in the new Warner Bros Blade Runner movie due out soon.

This is something I looked into a little while back and despite Batwing being advertised as 60m tall, I can't find anything that indicates that the structure is any higher than 58m including the marquee at the top. Anything over 60m should safely be the tallest structure in the park.

100% agreed. It's Warner Bros Movie World, not DC world!

This is my opinion and my opinion only. You will probably disagree. I think Dreamworld has little to nothing going for it. Personally, I dislike most rides their. The buzzsaw, hwsw give headaches when they bump your head around. Wipeout, Tot, gd and claw are good. Mdmc is slow and uncomfortable. Tailspin is slowly paced unless you can spin which will make you sick. Pandemonium makes me nauseas and sick on hard mode. The park is quite dead at times and is a little disheartening. When you think of a theme park, you think of lots of people just enjoying themselves, not an empty park. This is obviously not in all areas but a reasonable amount. The staff are mostly nice but some of the dispatch times for rides like tot and gd are terrible. I've seen staff seem like their just talking while everyone is waiting 10 minutes and the staff are to busy talking. (Yes, the gd is connected at this point). The gold rush area is dead and with the rides having unique opening hours, it really adds inconvenience. When you go to movie world, it if more often than not busy and their is a good, lively atmosphere. The rides are always open and the dispatches are fast and effective. The staff are their to do their job and I like it like that. It is also odd when Dreamworld appear to have more staff or "characters" than customers. That picture shows what the kids area looks like more often than not, dead. Movie worlds kids area has kids running around having fun. And we all can relate to when we want short ride times, and dream of getting on and off rides on demand. Well excluding tot and gd, this more often than not the case. I've had plenty of instances where I've had to wait on a ride so that their is enough people on it to justify a circuit, like a carnival ride. I'm not completely hating on Dreamworld, but with lacklustre attractions, no atmosphere and little to no customers at points of the park, Dreamworld is really going to have a hard time recovering. These are also reasons I won't be renewing after the free 6 months. And if you put your own perspective on the attendance, just know that once the 6 months are up, their will be a drastic drop in customers. Meanwhile Movie World are building the biggest attraction in the Southern Hemisphere, which will be a major draw card for later this year. Even on this forum, everyone is talking about it, meanwhile at dreamworld, someone might rarely mention tiger Island upgrades. What's going to get more customers coming to your park, a rollercoaster not upgrades to an area. I realise this was probably planned before the incident, but Dreamworld need to get our and everyone's attention. I also noticed that when the no limits movie World hypercoaster was released by Gold Coast theme parks on Facebook, their were a lot of comments about people having to go back to try it, which confirms that they are going to have a boost in attendance. Their was also 100k + views at the time I viewed it, which shows that the public is intrested/aware. Also, in terms of flat rides, Dreamworld has many more, with the highlights being wipeout, claw, gd and tot. Meanwhile the highlights of movie world are for me batwing and Doomsday, so clearly dw wins that one. But for rollercoasters, dw is completely knocked out. I have no interest nor like any of the coasters their. Meanwhile movie World have 5 brilliant coasters. And for water rides, movie world obviously win. The main thing about Dreamworld is that they have no obvious or no theming. Buzzsaw has an excellent story but it wouldn't be evident to anyone who hasn't read the bio on Dreamworld.com. Tot has decent theming, not that it's obvious your being launched into space or whatever's supposed to be happening. Hwsw has standard theming and so does mdmc. But claw, gd, buzzsaw, wipeout, tailspin, you really have no idea what the rides is supposed to be themed about. (From a customers persective) I have to mention though that pandamonium has good theming. Meanwhile movie World has doomsday which has amazing theming for one flat ride. Batwing has lacklustrer theming but is supported by the surrounding dc themed rides. Justice league has amazing theming. Wwf has terrific theming. Superman has amazing theming. Green lantern has standard theming. Arkham assylum has terrific theming as well. You also know what happening, whether your a patient on arkham assylum, or becoming a super villain saved by superman. This stands out a lot. I hope you enjoyed this article

my god it's just too awesome and it's still not finished can't wait to see what else they add to the TWISTACULAR

The next pieces have been installed, dropping down over the track before the Stengel Dive. Also a number of new supports are scattered around the place, as well as some ready to be installed. A close up of those tightly twisted pieces

They've installed a screen in the Plaza now. Like it did for MW, i think it's ruined the look of the facades. I don't know why they didn't take the opportunity to design the space around this screen, so they didn't have to fix it onto the poles. (Photo TPSN)

OK, that first batch is all done!

I think MW proved that you can get a decent dark ride for the price of a coaster. Let's not forget that there are plenty of third party companies that do Soarin' type rides. I think DW should go down this route - if it wants to become like Disney it should give Sally Corp a call and make it happen. Plenty of people who visit DW aren't coaster fans anyway.

I did post the photos of blade runner. However I don't think it will be the theme. Even big bosses of movieworld recently said that DC theme stuff is a more timeless and dosent age as quickly as one off movies like the recent madmax. It also doesn't sell as well to public. I'd like to see it themed to DC sirens. Catwoman, Poison ivy and Harley quinn. The pink/magenta coaster could tie the feminine theme together. Also to keep the theming interesting without going nuts I'd do 3 viewing rooms in the queue with statues like poison ivy in the villian area. But have a section for each character. Add a speaker and voice changer and have staff make fun of the public from the characters perspective. Always funny to be told your hat is ugly etc from a statue your not expecting to talk to you. Simple to do. Fun and interactive. As for having big name characters needing grand theming. Batman's ride currently in the park has almost zero themeing, And that name doesn't get much bigger for WB and DC. If I was able to blank canvas the project I'd would have liked it to be a Batman ride. I think the Mack trains look like a little like batman tumber at the front. The two biggest coasters in the park would be the two biggest DC names and before anyone says they wouldn't do two batman themed rides, It didn't stop them putting in batwing when they had the batman motion sim. But! It's fuschia!! Still looks good. I'll stop rambling now.

You are right Push. As a kid I loved going to the IMax at Dreamworld. I would love to see them bring it back (sort of), with something similar to Disneys Soarin ride. Is that the kind of thing you were thinking? Still not as big a drawcard as a coaster but more of a family friendly experience which Dreamworld does excel at. And definitely cheaper.

Obviously past the vintage cars being moved their. I would want them to keep the gold rush theme. It is such a unique theme and is really the only themed area of the park with more than one big ride. I would want to see a large scale rollercoaster installed as Dreamworld is exhaustsd with flat rides and completely lacking in rollercoasters. A rollercoaster is really the next step for them.

Wowsers, that's a hell of a stretch @AlexB haha. Comical though. That'd be like the true reason the vintage cars is closed is because the cars ran on tyres, and you sat in a tyre on TRR therefore tyres are evil

Am I the only one making the connection and thinking blade runner = oscar pistorius = no legs = smiler incident = not a great image for the mind... ...and let's not forget the whole shooting your girlfriend thing....

Can't be a Blade Runner themed ride - this thing's been rumoured on here to have a fairly simple station and queue. A Blade Runner themed ride without an awesome station, queue and pre-ride would be a travesty. A very basic description - imagine a future like the one in the Fifth Element, but grittier, darker and desaturated in general colour. Flying Cars, high rises, pollution, constantly raining... Here's a decent fan made trailer of the original. Blade Runner would be a great ride theme, but it'd need a lot more themeing than it's looking like we're getting. Where the hyper's going in it's almost impossible for it to be themed anything other than DC. As we've been discussing for months...

I actually think this is a very good suggestion. Despite everyone being sold on the ride being themed to DC comics, the pink/grey colours don't seem to quite fit any of the upcoming DC adaptations, and the early October release date aligns perfectly with a September school holidays opening for the coaster. Blade Runner also appeals to an older audience so it makes sense to theme an intense ride to a more adult friendly franchise.

Widget would be a much better choice imo...

Can I ask why they weren't made in the 'Lets talk shit' thread?

http://news.sky.com/story/drayton-manors-splash-canyon-closed-over-patient-in-water-10870380 From the images and description the ride sounds very much like the TRRR. Will be interesting to see if the media links the two. Either way horrible incident and thoughts to the family.

^ this. Couldn't have said it better, myself, and wish I could give it more than one up vote! Cheers @themagician 👍👍👍

The river Rapids again? Wow.. rip 😥

I think if it doesn't have it's own identity, they at least need to heavily advertise that they're the same park.

Nope.

A little disheartening to read this article. I do believe that whilst the most dedicated of us locals are still visiting regardless, the lack of major new attractions (and as it has been pointed out, the loss of multiple current ones as well) is playing a part in the downturn in attendances. There's a lot less on offer than what there was originally, especially when rides are also experiencing unscheduled maintenance and extended delays in reopening. I mean we have five major rides down right now: TRR (which we know isn't coming back), Log Ride, Vintage Cars, Wipeout, and Tower of Terror II. That's a lot of rides for a park which is already suffering due to negative media attention and wavering faith by the public for their ride safety records. It's a rock and a hard place situation for Ardent, because whilst they have obviously lost a significant amount of money over the incident, they would also now be expected to invest a significant amount - similar to what VRTP are doing now) in order to draw crowds back. Ardent have never been ones to jump at the chance at expanding and improving in a major sense, they have always been cautious about spending their finances. This won't help the park now in this situation, and let's face it, they are only going to be even more reserved about it now that they have suffered a massive profit loss. I honestly am really starting to believe that a sale of the park would be in its best interests right now, so long as it's to the right investor who is willing to do the above at no additional financial loss to them other than purchase/development costs. I really think that this would be the easiest and best way for Dreamworld to make a full recovery and thrive in the future.

I don't see them removing Castaway Bay anytime soon, it's still relatively new isn't it? If anything - I'd see them expanding the area.

Is it too far fetched to think it will be transformed from a hypercoaster into a Pirates of the Caribbean dark ride prior to opening?

To be honest I'd like to see them replace all the LSM's For New ones so Tower Of Terror II can go higher or maybe even as high as Tower Of Terror use to go when they opened it in 1997.

These changes, along with the $35 for 35 day passes they did recently, all smack of desperation. I understand why given the reports on the drop in numbers, but I don't think their strategy is right at all. Time to sell to new owners who will show the parks (both of them) more respect!

@Gold Coast Amusement Force to continue grammar complaints, Movie World is a proper noun and needs capital letters.

Excellent ideas there.

Why are so many accidents happening? Especially on these River rapid rides

I have no idea what Bladerunner is, but it looks like a strong possibility given those colours, and it would also be a suitable name for the ride. I think that's it!