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Quietly anticipating the “no bumping rule” on the dodgem cars - “you can dodge, but you can’t bump”. In order to safeguard people from whiplash, riders must wear headgear and only 2 cars will be allowed in the dodgem arena at any one time, and sensors will shut the ride off if one car comes within 5m of the other. Capacity maxes out at 48 riders per hour...6 points
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That's entirely the point. We're backing this with our track record. Feel free to disagree, but like I said, I'm pretty confident that history will vindicate this one like it has so many times before. That's because your point is complete nonsense. A Google search for whiplash headrest yields countless diagrams of "incorrect" headrests placed at precisely the same point as the bar on the boats. Restraining the neck while allowing free rotation of the head is just poor design on a ride where collisions from behind are normal and riders will frequently move, and often suddenly contort themselves to avoid getting wet. What does it tell you beyond the fact that I have made a decision based on my personal experiences? I'm sure you wouldn't go back to a cafe that serves lousy coffee or a mechanic that leaves your brakes squeaking. Using industry knowledge and connections all around the world for the purposes of writing articles is a little different from a gut feeling that I choose to express in particularly measured terms.3 points
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I read this article not long ago on how Fred Grubb of RMC will be installing a Raptor into his backyard for his grandkids. Lucky things they are. http://www.cdapress.com/local_news/20180123/best_grandpa_ever2 points
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@AlexB A bit hard to have colour squares on carpet with no carpet. @themagician Thank you skeet. @Skeeta no thank Parkz because the photo is from Parkz database.2 points
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Well the plot thickens in regard to this. I discussed this finding with Brad from Luna Park along with some other Luna discussions and his reaction was certainly interesting. Whilst I knew that he would not and could not confirm the park installing this coaster, his reply was very open ended. Here it is: There is no official confirmation and we know that there will be none until the park is ready to release a press statement to what is essentially a very sensitive ( to the surrounding residents) issue. The addition of a new roller coaster to LPS is likely to stir up memories of the 2nd Big Dipper coaster and the acrimonious lawsuits against the park that followed. Now though, the park will be better armed to combat any such resistance and the installation of a new coaster of the the type the park may be looking at will be far less controversial than a 100 foot tall Arrow multilooper. So we can definitely glean from this that LPS are actively looking at options for a 2nd coaster. This is fantastic news and one that should be celebrated! If they are going for a Maurer, then this will be a Australian first and will give LPS a unique coaster experience for this country. I love that they are also looking at plans for custom layouts- a unique riding experience found nowhere else is a big drawcard for all enthusiasts. The next 2 years are looking extremely bright for LPS and I will certainly be at the forefront on reporting and documenting the changes as they come to hand. Happy days!!2 points
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The interesting thing I find was the bar was never part of the original design. No bar in any of these photos/videos. I wonder who designed the cage in the first place that wasn't adequately braced? I wonder who signed off to strengthen the frame up with a bar? I wonder if this is this was the reason the opening of the Log Ride was pushed back?1 point
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So has Robb Alvey... but there are a lot of enthusiasts who hold a very different opinion of him today. "we know things" - if it was anyone outside of the 'parkz staff' saying this without backing it they'd be fucking crucified - why is Parkz beyond reproach... track record? The problem with cruising on a track record is it only takes one crash for that track record to be damaged. You've still not acknowledged any error with the "whiplash bar" claims which is clearly incorrect and alarmist. Whilst there are many other facets of your article that I will admit you could be right about - that is not one of them - and your 'consistently accurate' claim doesn't wash for me whilst you continue to stand by that. I personally haven't used 'Elitist' before, but to stand there and say 'trust us, we know things' when you're talking about this sort of stuff is a bit of a reach for your credibility. To claim you've seen things to make you "personally decide to no longer ride anything at Dreamworld" in almost the same breath as "trust us, we know things" tells a lot about what you really care about too.1 point
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You're right - there were no answers given. I was simply stating that I didn't claim to have the answers either. The 'heart' was in the right place in that we want the park to do better than this. As I pointed out numerous times, this clearly wasn't the 'best' solution - but one thing the article has ignored is whether it was 'satisfactory' - and by that I mean satisfactory for the mischief it is trying to cure, not whether it rattles. Sure, there are 'pinch points' with the brackets, but with no machine force behind them, it's nigh-on impossible that anyone sticking their finger into them is going to receive an injury during the ride - by nature of the fact that it's free-moving. There is no force behind it that will force the brackets closed onto someone's finger. (And clearly the operator is going to see a finger in a bracket before opening it) - on splashdown is the highest risk of injury in this situation, and the risk would be minimal (and far better than someone falling out and drowning). Like I said, if this risk appears more real and less fanciful as they continue operations, i'm sure we'll see a modification to prevent \ guard against this issue. Staff performing loading and unloading procedures twist, bend, lean and balance in all matter of positions. The biggest risk here needs the operator of the ride to fuck up and lower the log when they aren't supposed to. We still have no confirmation on whether TPG's video shows the loader returning to a control panel to give the all clear (but it does certainly look like it). Even if there is no loader 'all clear' button, the procedures they would operate under would be unlikely to result in the log being lowered as the article suggests. The only time i've ever seen these logs loaded with four is when there are small kids involved. Its a fair point that these probably do make loading a little slower, but I don't see anyone tripping over the frame, and like i said - fluoro yellow padded vinyl covers would fix that pretty easily. And the bar at neck height? so what? What is it you think that bar is going to do to someone? The article calls it a whiplash bar, but by nature of how a whiplash injury is caused, it should be called a whiplash prevention bar. I am glad that 3 days on you finally addressed the point I raised about the fact that this isn't just an 'inhouse' design, and that they've cleared this with engineers. That point seemed to be ignored in the article whilst insisting that they've gone and done the same thing again that killed four people. Sure - previous modifications were probably signed off by engineers in house. I can all but guarantee that is no longer the case and externals are signing this off. Nobody is suggesting that these canopies are best practice. Nobody is suggesting this is the best possible outcome. For those saying Ardent is rolling in money after divesting themselves of certain assets fail to note that whether Ardent has money or not, they rarely invest much of it into Dreamworld. At an uncertain time when even the most informed critics are doubtful whether the park will continue to survive into the future in it's current state, why would they invest in brand spanking new boats? Clearly the solution has been signed off by externals, which is probably a step up from the previous internal processes. It'd be great if we all drove BMW's, but when a regularly serviced Toyota will do the job on a budget.... I don't believe the park should be immune - however many of the questions being asked here are just a theoretical imagination of possibilities. Can anyone confirm whether the park has \ has not reached out to manufacturers? For all we know, they have, and the options given were "well, you can buy these really expensive new boats or you can put a canopy on what you've got"... This modification most likely will cut a finger, or drop someone in the drink when they overbalance or trip. Hardly the same as killing someone who stands and falls out under a conveyor. Sure, there are risks created by these things, but the risk they cure is a lot worse. They could gold plate these things, but do they need to? I personally think the canopies are ridiculous. Personally, I think they should have tried to do it differently. And as I mentioned - in agreement with the article - there are clearly better ways to do it. However, clearly the park went through external audits after the accident, and clearly the park has changed how they do things. The park kept the ride shuttered for an entire year. Whilst we didn't see them doing much on the site, that doesn't mean they didn't have people working on it from day dot. For all we know, this is what the external auditors suggested, proposed, approved and signed off... and if that be the case, who is the park to question that? I've no doubt that the park has done everything they possibly can within the allocated budget to cover their arse. Unless someone with internal knowledge wants to come out and advise otherwise (in which case they should, and NDA be damned, because these are people's lives at risk if so), then I don't think we, as the general public (as has been pointed out by community leaders here in the past), can sit here and categorically state how wrong the park is, on matters we have no intimate knowledge of.1 point
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The perspex should make things nice n warm for Parents & Kiddies alike on a Hot Day... Bit like being locked in a Car? Let's see.. Adding Restraints that leads to slower Cycle times and adding extra casing to inadvertently place Rider's Heads on slow cook? Wowee DW. Do they not think anything through?1 point
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Seat belts inside a fully enclosed kiddie Ferris wheel?? Ridiculous1 point
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Seeing I didn't get the time to share these yesterday, I will share them now Much better look at the control booth I believe it's already been mentioned on here (if it has I apologise) the ride manual confirms that Zamperla is responsible for the ride Seat belts are installed on the ride ( most likely an world first safety feature that DW has included) I feel like there should be placed here smacked right in the middle even if it's just a sign saying Play School or Play School Wheel, I do hope they do something with that but seeing how 'unique' this ride to other ones installed I'm gonna say they are gonna leave it blank And seeing that the fences are down, here's some up close shots of the ride1 point
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(Tributes flow in as the long awaited demolition has finally concluded) One part of the mountain lives on! (For now..)1 point
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Had a great day with @Tim Dasco and @ABYSS, today. AW was fairly busy. Abyss and Goliath had waits of between 5 and 20 minutes. Inferno was down again. The waterslides had healthy waits, with Kraken having a 50 minute queue. There were lots of families with big tents and eskies.1 point
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I have a question as to how an Adult would fit in that with their child? I'd be worried that I'll topple the thing. If this is a changes discussion, do we reckon we will see major changes to the Gold Rush part of Dreamworld once they start building their new iFly attraction? I imagine that they'll need to expand the theater, add an area for a decent queue, etc. Also I hope they add a general theme similar to Soarin'. It'd be a great opportunity to get an Australian Airline on board and theme the building to be an old hanger or something.1 point
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