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For the record - If people want to waste their time writing bogus reviews then that's fine, kudos to you for the creativity. But when their responses start becoming abusive and offensive that's where we draw the line. We've removed a whole lot of posts here. Rest assured no one has missed out on anything other than a bit of fan fiction. 🙄 Every indication I have is that the ride has only been experienced by Brogent employees as the formal handover has not yet taken place.11 points
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Choose Village because they will bring in portable carnival rides and bastardise old attractions so they can make it seem like a brand new attraction? If Dreamworld brought in travelling rides, people would have crucified them. But because Village did it, it's fine. Oh wow, Village have the Aquaman exhibit, albeit after we've been begging for a new "attraction" for years. Dreamworld just finished their Lego Brickman exhibit which, as far as I can tell, was just a popular as the Aquaman exhibit is proving to be. This along with the Trolls Village, another temporary attraction that has drawn large crowds. Yes, the location may be a bit strange but if you're going to actually compare theme parks, maybe you should compare them on the merits they share, instead of just ignoring things to suit your argument. Yes, Dreamworld is still far from perfect but the Village parks aren't exactly a pinnacle either. Speaking of "sucking the teat of companies" I'd recommend you detach yourself from Villages teat. Build a hypercoaster (even though it almost bankrupt them) and you can never make a bad move again, it seems...4 points
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I'm not saying DW are perfect or deserve to be held in the same regard as Village. Hell, I jumped on the bash DW wagon for a solid amount of time too. But it's just infuriating to see people instantly write off DW because they don't have a hypercoaster or because of stupid reasons like, they don't have any walkthrough attractions and village do. Ardent are only now pouring money back into their parks, so it really doesn't seem fair to compare a park that has had continued cash injection for the past few years to a park that is only now investing money. I'm not arguing that they deserve equal praise or criticism, I'm saying, if you're going to criticise or praise while comparing them, do it on the merits that they share, instead of comparing apples to oranges. That's like comparing Aussie World to Knotts Berry Farm, they are both lovely little parks, but the one with more money to throw is always going to win. That's when you'd start looking at the individual aspects that make up each theme park and start comparing those. Numbers are important from a business point of view but the general public doesn't care how much the park is making or how many people are going through the gate when deciding which park to visit.3 points
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Haven't they been resoundingly crucified for both SDSC and Sky Flyer? The hypercoaster didn't come close to bankrupting anyone. The worst thing you can say about that investment is that it was unfortunately timed in the TRR fallout. Last year's $38 million EBITDA was VRTP's lowest on record. It was about on par with Dreamworld's best year ever. In absolute terms, VRTP's Gold Coast parks have outspent Dreamworld almost 5 to 1 since 2012. Adjust for attendance and they've still outspent them 2 to 1. There's plenty to criticise about VRTP, but the idea that both operators are deserving of equal praise or criticism seems to come from a fairly vocal minority that gets hung up on tiny things and ignores the numbers.3 points
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They’ve just restructured the company to make it more attractive to investors, and the chairman is talking openly about relocating the headquarters to the US. Short of actually announcing a buyer all of the signs point to a sale.2 points
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Ardent are investing to pretty up Dreamworld for a sale, that’s all. Their long term plan is for someone else to own the park so they can open more FECs in the US. Village, at least, see the parks as part of their core business, and despite the occasional misstep have done a far better job of knowing when to refurbish and when to retire older attractions.2 points
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This. There was no sort of soft opening last night, not even any Dreamworld staff have ridden yet. Brogent haven’t finished working inside.2 points
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While I expect that Dreamworld/Brogent will have done a great job on the ride itself, in my opinion, DW have really missed the mark with the building facade and theme. Immersion is a key factor to getting people to suspend their disbelief, and it is also a key factor in getting people to open their wallet - not just for the cost of entry into the park to engage in the immersion, but also on food, drinks, souvenirs and up-charge experiences. This is one of the key rules of shop design to encourage more sales. It is why Ikea is one long path with room after room of products featured in-context, rather than endless racks of shelves. It is why Apple has tables at just the right height to angle their laptop screens in a way that invites people to touch the product. Immersion increases sales and can justify higher prices if it looks like a 'quality' product. Credit where credit is due - DW have done a great job with Dreamworks and Tiger Island and have proven that they are capable of creating immersive environments. However, they always manage to drop the ball, like the Green Prison at Tiger Island, or the Trolls attraction. Despite the iRide being one of the highest quality theatre attractions available, this building doesn't do the ride justice. I'm giving DW the benefit of the doubt that the ride itself will be great, but the building looks cheap. It breaks the immersion that did exist, and replaces it with something that can't even clearly be identified as an 'airport' terminal. Here is a comparison (photos from earlier in the thread): I've mentioned previously that I don't care if they tear down one facade and replace it, but it should be replaced with something that is consistent with a future vision for that area of the park. It should also be replaced with something better. Different is ok, but lower quality, less immersive and less aesthetically pleasing is not. I also don't think that Dreamworld have executed their design well. They tore down a classic style of architecture that could have been improved, but was at least consistent and immersive. They promised a modern, futuristic building with sweeping curves and sleek, bright entrances. But they delivered a lumpy, bulbous mess. This is just my opinion, but I don't think this building belongs in a theme park. I don't even think it is a good looking building outside of a theme park. I've mentioned before that this is a multi-million dollar tourist attraction and there is nothing about this building that is iconic or memorable, and no one is going to take a photo outside of it to share their memories or experiences on social media. For me, the most disappointing part is that Dreamworld had the opportunity to create a great historical Aviation story. Qantas was founded in Queensland, and Sir Charles Kingsford Smith was born in Brisbane and was a global pioneer in Aviation. From Wikipedia: In 1928, he made the first trans-Pacific flight from the United States to Australia. He also made the first non-stop crossing of the Australian mainland, the first flights between Australia and New Zealand, and the first eastward Pacific crossing from Australia to the United States; and, also, made a flight from Australia to London, setting a new record of 10.5 days. In my opinion, this history and unique Queensland connection would have been ideal for a story and immersive experience to wrap around a ride like this. What is more is that it would have given Dreamworld license to theme the building to something consistent with the existing Main Street - if not Victorian - then at least the simpler (and cheaper to maintain) Art Deco style of the early 1930s. I appreciate that many here won't feel the same, but I personally believe that Dreamworld has lost something good, replaced it with something bad, and completely missed an opportunity to create something great. While I am interested to experience the ride, I think Ardent need to hire a Creative Director to help build a future vision for Dreamworld. Hopefully, when they have a vision for the park and the theme of each area, they can re-theme it for a 2.0 version of the experience.2 points
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Jurassic Park , WILD WEST FALLS Revenge of the Mummy , Scooby Doo Spooky Coaster Transformers, justice league1 point
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Hi All, I have been to Universal, Disneyland etc Myself, and i personally reckon that Village and Ardents facades look a lot better. this is my personal opinion. our rides are a lot better in length and theming as well.1 point
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They don't need to look to the Aviation Industry for Safety inspiration - that's what the greater Theme Park Industry is there for. But apparently they have never needed proper help, nor seem do they realise there is such a thing called IAAPA !!!1 point
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On the contrary, I wouldn't say it was unnecessary at all. I'm the crotchety old man that sits in the corner waggling his walking stick at the kids playing their records too loud, occasionally spouting pearls of wisdom that wise kids occasionally benefit from if they listen. The forums are a place for discussion - something each of us has equal right to do. ...And you don't contribute photos either - you contribute slideshows of photos and 5 second vine videos that are impossibly difficult to watch. You also create threads that are against the forum rules - such as this one - generically named 'dreamworld WWW update'. Honestly i'm surprised it's lasted this long as it is. I've tried to dialogue with you. Privately i've tried to explain to you what it is that you're doing that's annoying people. Several others have politely pointed it out, and you don't seem to get the message - so at that point you lose all restraint from me, and i'm gonna let you know about it. Honestly, this world is creating too many fucking snowflakes that think the world should adjust to suit them, instead of the other way around.1 point
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Was about to post the exact same thing! Yes, it does! #impossiblesituation Seems somebody went digging a little too far through the archives when they made that commercial (and apparently that same someone didn't visit the park often enough to have realised that one actually replaced the other)1 point
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mate, do you work for dreamworld? jesus. seems like your too busy sucking on the teat of ardent to realise there are MAJOR issues at DW. A single ride will not close the gap between DW and there competitors. we know ardent has let DW slip badly in the last few years - even before the Thunder River Accident. what was the last ride dreamworld added before skyflyer? Buzzsaw? yeah they opened the Lego shop and had brickman, but in the same period of time MW has added DC rivals, Doomsday destroyer and a ton of other stuff as i said above. when it comes down to laying down my money - which is not insignifigant for 4 annual passes - you have a choice of dreamworld and WW - where money is barely being spent (save $12 mill for a skyrider which my kids won't like anyway and i have no interest in) or i could go village. where they have added a $30 million dollar, top class roller coaster at movieworld, they keep the theming constant and it feels like an experience whereas going to DW is like a bloody county fair. and this pains me. some of my fondest memories with both my late father and also my kids have been at DW. but comparing apples to oranges - the value is not there.0 points
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and in the last few years movieworld has opened DC Rivals (an absolutly amazing coaster), the doomsday destroyer, rethemed scooby doo, opened hollywood stunt driver 2 and now has the aqua man exibition. heck, even paridise country had a flippin shawn the sheep show when i was there today. I understand things are different at Dreamworld (due to the tragedy with TRR) but the average person doesnt care.0 points
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Sorry if this sounds pedantic, but it is actually important to search for the correct thing in order to find what you're looking for. Tops was actually never in Myer, which is a department store. It was in the Myer Centre, which is a shopping centre. If you try searching for Tops in the Myer Centre you might have more luck finding the information you're looking for!0 points
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Why would someone with such a poor opinion on Gold Coast theme parks join a forum that's all about enjoying them? Weird!0 points
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