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Tower of terror closing would be a massive blow for Dreamworld. I don’t even think a big scale coaster could replace it. It would help, but tower of terror is such an iconic and unique ride.3 points
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Surprise surprise - i disagree. The park needs to stop telling people what their plan is, and put their money where their mouth is. reopen eureka mine ride wipeout has 10 more years adventure river with wildlife right beside you VR on MDMC Sky Voyager opens this summer. What do all of these things have in common? Stop fucking talking about it and JUST START DOING IT.3 points
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Thing is if your plan involves removing Tot, you need to explain that something better is coming and be specific. If you close that ride without concept art of a kick ass new coaster the public will keep saying 'They have no idea, fuck DW'. Look at what's happened with Wipeout. Even if a tour billion goes into Wipeout's spot a lot of the PR damage is done and it will seem reactionary rather than proactive and positive.2 points
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This fanfic sure is interesting. Whether we're talking pie in the sky dreams or fiscally realistic strategies, there's two things the park needs to do: 1) Build a big f*cking coaster. 2) Change the narrative. In regards to the first one - there's just no way Dreamworld exists without a rival to rival Rivals. Find me a park that's bounced back from a poor start or a tragedy without a roller-coaster and i'll eat my hat. Just look at Wipeout's closure - it effectively wiped off hundreds of millions of dollars from the company's share value, and yet a replacement Zamperla clone is 8 million in change to install. The lesson here? Never, ever question the power of a good thrill ride and what it does for theme park brands. It doesn't matter if you're a regional park like Six Flags Great Adventure or Alton Towers, or a major player like Hong Kong Disneyland, if you don't build it they won't come. Movie World proved that the crowd exists and people will pay for it. No roller-coaster, no Dreamworld. In regards to the second point - I reckon the park will probably need new owners with fresh faces for the simple fact that as @joz mentioned earlier you need to draw that line in the sand between old and new with the public in order to get them to trust the brand again. Whatever the plan is, the park needs to get real honest, real humble and real transparent to win people back.2 points
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Yeah I don't understand calls for seasonal operation. DW historically runs at a profit in winter. You fix the park you fix the need for an off season. I also don't fully understand people who want to hang on to relics from the past (Reviving the Gold Rush theme, really?), spend multi millions on new stuff AND make DW a discount option. Discounting prices is something you do NOW to get through the short term when you've got nothing to advertise. It isn't something you do when you have a full strength park that's just had 2 or more of the Gold Coast's best new rides added to it.2 points
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Beware of the big length, but this would be an ultra-long term plan if I had the budget of Chinese theme park companies. My idea is that Dreamworld would engage in banking on the recognition of the park's history and reintroducing former rides that were popular with guests, as well as introduce new flashy rides that aren't seen anywhere else in Australia. Most of the actual theme park section, especially the thrill would need to be wiped clean and totally replaced. Tiger Island, Corroberee and WWW are mostly left untouched with a few cosmetic upgrades. There isn't exactly much worth saving beyond those at this point. Things I'd change right away (short term) Change to seasonal operation. This is done in a similar manner to Adventure World as theme parks usually don't perform well in the winter months. This allows the park to make additions and changes in the winter months. Lower ticket price to make DW a more cost effective alternative to MW. Rocky Hollow is rid of its stupid modifications and replaced with seatbelts like every other log flume ride. Areas I'd work on in the medium term (1-3 years): Wipeout replaced with ABC Rides Torbillon. Identical name and identical theming to the original, promoted as a next generation retro revival. This is because Wipeout is one of the more iconic and popular attractions Dreamworld had and keeping the Wipeout name will draw the attention of guests. Having a flashy ride like this will also grab plenty of press and public attention due to its unusual nature. The former Thunderbolt site that was to be replaced with the lazy river is replaced with an RMC Raptor, named Thunderbolt after the original. This allows the park to retire TOT and having both of this happen in the same time distracts guests from TOT being closed as there is a new coaster in the park to ride instead. Tower of Terror is closed, and Giant Drop is converted to a Falcon's Fury gondola. Ripping down the TOT will free up space for another family ride in Dreamworks Experience. Areas I'd work on in the long term (3+ years) Hot Wheels Sidewinder replaced with a waterslide tower. WWW don't have a Boomerango or a Six Flags-style King Cobra waterslide so maybe it's time to get one of those. This essentially completes WWW. If you want to do a direct coaster trade, an S&S 4D Free Spin would be nice, but HWSW's plot is better for a WWW expansion. Dreamworks is expanded. The arcade and Kevil Hill are demolished and replaced with a Croods or How to Train Your Dragon area, including a couple extra family flat rides. Gold Rush is fully rebuilt with the same theme in mind. Plans for the ampitheatre would be scrapped. A dark ride and a new family flat would be built in this development. Buzzsaw is kept and refurbished a la Wipeout and given proper theming. Gold Rush's initial expansion is targeted as a family thrill area, a step up from Dreamworks but not as intense as the rides in Ocean Parade, that is until... Tower of Terror ultimately replaced by a new marquee roller coaster in Gold Rush and covering up to Blue Lagoon. A Mack multilaunch or Gerstlauer Infinity Coaster would be nice for this area. If you want to really go off the shelf with this, a clone of Smiler would be a cool addition.2 points
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I don't understand the logic. We cancel all plans for new rides and attractions which would have introduced a WWW expansion, dark ride, ampitheatre and lazy river because customers aren't returning as anticipated. Why did we anticipate that customers would return? Because of SV, which hasn't opened... Seriously what have we gained and lost at Dreamworld since the incident. Lost - Thunder River Rapids (Great famiy ride with decent theming) + The whole goldrush area Wipeout (Staple of the park, iconic) Dreamworld Cinema (meh) Park atmosphere and crowds Kevil Hill (good scare maze) Gained - Trolls Village (good addition) Corroboree and Tiger Island minor expansions .... I think that tells the whole story. Customers aren't going to return because you installed one new family ride. You take away a big thrill ride, a major family ride and a scare maze and respond with one new ride which can't live up to the experience given by TRR and is merely a marketing nightmare for the park. They've blown there budget on it, defect after defect. They either - a) Spend big, you've got a new family ride now you need a new thrill ride right now than more down the line as you retire others. b) Cost cut and drag yourself to the finish line, that being giving up on the park and selling it off. edit - I'm glad the WWW expansion and dark ride were cancelled however because that is certainly not what DW needs.1 point
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Well, the right-wing politicians in NSW were re-elected - so they don't need an upgrade right now. In federal government, the Morrison government could do with an upgrade though, judging by opinion polls...1 point
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There will be a new attraction this year, but the big signature investment will open late 2020. vikings Won’t return and I’d expect within about 12 months there will be no traces of it left1 point
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Mickey, from the outside a man would be forgiven in thinking DW have given up. Wipeout final closure during its standard maintenance stinks of "it's going to cost us how much to keep it gong? Close it down". Dreamworld Express closed for 5 months stinks of "it's going to cost us how much to keep it gong? Put it in maintenance". WhiteWater World expansion stopped during op works stinks of "we have no money left? Close it down". Sky Voyager not opening stinks of "DW unwillingness to get the job done".1 point
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I've have also been told the likelihood of it being open for Easter would be a long shot also @Evie The information I'm getting is the 25 million allocated to get DW rock 'n' rolling again has been spent. The cupboards are bare and DW have nothing to show for it.1 point
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You can agree with me or not on this one. But it seems like it’s the beginning of the end for Scooby. So the ride is still no where near what was expected (especially after watching the TVC). Every time I ride it, I just miss the old version more and more. And maintenance isn’t even due until the END of the year. (let’s hope they can incorporate everything and fix whatever until then) After investing “$1 million” into re-doing a ride, you would imagine a better outcome. I took a closer look at some props and they looked like cheap props from the clearance section of Kmart after Halloween. (Excluding the re-used props and animatronics). It’s understandable that the $1 million was towards re-creating the set, re-painting the facade etc but if they were willing to keep scooby in action for a good 5-10 years they would’ve spent more than $1 million on cheap tv screens and poor animations. There’s still no lasers or fog (as shown in the TVC). Effects and projections are either out of time or not working. The ride had potential, but it was all poorly executed. The poor outcome of the ride suggests that MW doesn’t really care about the ride and is just doing a cheap revamp to keep guests coming in. They’ve stripped props from the queue, they havnt cleaned the dust off that jester in the loading station (it’s literally been like that forever). I won’t be surprised if in the next 5+ years they change the theme of the ride or completely remove it. This revamp is not promising..... And theoretically, Scooby Doo is not as popular as it used to be. Yes they spent $1 million on re-doing the ride but that’s not enough to create a ride that could even compare to the previous version. This revamp is just a way for MW to save money instead of creating a decent new ride. In the meantime they are probably saving to remove scooby and create a new attraction. But who knows, there might be added effects soon and improvements to come...1 point
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Ardent is preparing the park for sale as they have already said they are spending no more money. Housing estates by 2023.0 points
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If something had changed it would be posted here ! Someone has already told you this.0 points
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So after my very offensive joke which I apologize for. Has anything been done to upgrade the right recently0 points
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