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Various news articles published it after the Thunder River Rapids incident, @reanimated35.

Dreamworld's capacity is 10,000 so depending on how they operate (let more people in after some exit or no entry once 10,000 enter), there's the possibility 4,000 people did not enter DW at all.

There's more detailed information about Stage 2 here.

Didn't Zumer open in 1982 when Country Fair formally opened? As an opening day park map (which list rides/attractions that did not open until 1982) does not even list Zumer & the park map @YLFATEEKS linked to is a 1982 park map (though I do agree the ride they refer to in that park map is Zumer). This 1983 park map also shows the Enterprise & Zumer were in separate locations so there was enough room for a temporary Supertrooper to be placed there in the park's 1st year of operation.

It does not bother me in the end if they get rid of the current timber town theming or not but I would prefer if the current theme remained and I think keeping it will be fine. It's just a theme and enough of the theming remains to still be considered a 'town'. The Thunder River Rapids site doesn't have to be re-built as a new 'town expansion' - it could be the town's outskirts. Like the suggestion I made to bring the Vintage Cars there, Vintage Cars were made in roughly the same time period & it could be themed to a winding scenic drive outside of the town. The media did make a misjudgement on some of the theming thinking it was unmaintained buildings but I think you can still theme an area of a theme park to an 1890's timber town without using rusted corrugated iron as part of the theming.

Nice to hear about Wonderland History's reaction. Firstly, this was the only time that I haven't posted the source intentionally so stop making a huge drama over it - I was always going to post the source when the hypercoaster pieces arrived anyway. If the '2017 Movie World roller coaster' topic was actually on-topic in the past week or so, I wouldn't have withheld the source temporarily. I don't - only when I think it's a topic suitable for a poll. The number of votes made in a poll I find usually outnumbers the number of posts made on a non-poll topic's first day anyway. If anything, to me, it adds to the discussion and allows everyone to see clearly the opinion of all forum members. I'm not stopping people from replying - if they don't want to add detail comment, that's their choice. A poll also prevents pointless short posts like 'yes' or 'no'. I only remind people of 'predictions' when firstly, they ask forum members when/what they think something will occur & secondly, when they have clearly forgotten or not yet read already confirmed or very 'educated guessed' information (like, for the latter, when hypercoaster track pieces will be installed). Had I didn't post that guess timetable, imagine how many more times we would have seen posts saying "When will the track be installed?" over the past 4 month period. I only made that guess timetable to prevent that from happening as best as possible. And I haven't pointed out to anyone that my predictions were accurate if they did become accurate. The linking of old posts is because firstly, to avoid me reposting the whole post and secondly, to provide a link for readers to provide background on my post if they haven't read those posts yet. I also don't have several theories for 1 future event. I always have 1 theory for each but they will vary over time when new information is released. The hypercoaster timeline, so far, is still nearly accurate and I clearly said it was only "an indicative guide". The only things confirmed as incorrect are the opening date (this wasn't my guess but based on the overall opinion of the forum at the time of posting), which I updated the timeline for as well as the construction fencing advertising (1 month ahead). Track installation I wrote would start in late-January. It has only been a week since then & forum members have since speculated that track installation is imminent due to the caps on the footings being removed. For an installation period that I'd estimated to last until mid-May, 1 week difference is not that much of a mistake so far & for all I know, the removal of the footing caps could be considered the 'unofficial beginning' of the track installation period too. As for the track/support pieces arriving, which I put as November/December, for all I know, they could have been hidden in the BOH areas of the Entertainment Road property or somewhere completely external to that property. Also, why consider my guess timeline true when I've clearly said it is a guess based on SE? Lastly, don't compare me to a "First!!!!" poster - the forum's equivalent to that is someone who makes the first reply to a topic & brags about that fact.

The same has what I'd suggested in this pre-existing topic on this. But also: Keep Buzzsaw General Store, Buzzsaw Photos, the Shooting Gallery & Old Time Family Photos (the latter two being relocated). Remove the Skylink Charlift completely. Remove the Eureka Mountain Mine Ride completely unless it can be restored & begin operations again without Thunder River Rapids underneath it. If it can be restored/begin operations again, update the Town Of Gold Rush theming to show that the 'mine' is no longer for sale or that the 'mine' has recommenced operations.

Mack Rides's hypercoaster webpage states the maximum gradient of the lift hill will be 45 degrees, which is the angle I based those 'artist impressions' I made on, if looking at those again helps too in making a more accurate guess of the lift hill gradient. Lewa Adventure's Mack Rides hypercoaster lift hill, correct me if I'm wrong, is 45 degrees roughly too.

This newspaper article indicates that Illuminanza wasn't a 'one-off' - it went daily for about a month plus this other newspaper article indicates Illuminanza returned for a near month-long period to celebrate MW's 3rd birthday in 1994.

Dreamworld CEO, Craig Davidson, did a 14-minute interview on ABC Gold Coast radio (97.1FM) yesterday: Some key points/quotes: "The only ride that hasn't come through that (safety audit process) is because we're.working on an annual shutdown of the ride is the Wipeout ride" "We're starting to see (attendance) numbers return to some sort of normality post-those rides coming back online" "I think Dreamworld absolutely has a future" "We've been fantastically surprised by the popularity of LEGO as it opened" "We are diverse and I think we have to continue to diversify the offering of the park" "We'll complete Stage 2 Of Dreamworld Corroboree. That completes that whole area this year so that will be open sometime later this year" "We'll start that (Thunder River Rapids decommissioning) process now now that we've gotten through the holiday period" "There's been many thoughts around what it (Thunder River Rapids replacement) could be but for the minute, what we'll do is fully decommission the ride and then we'll make a decision as to what we do with that space so that's the 1st step. We'll commence that soon" "The (Thunder River Rapids) ride is not operating and elements of it have been decommissioned and we'll continue that process now so there is no access to that area of the park obviously but we'll go through that in a methodical way and do it the right way" "I mentioned entertainment earlier and it's been a really good outcome in terms of the change to the park operations since we haven't had some of the thrill rides operating" "We've had fantastic feedback from customers in the park and from our guests about that change (entertainment) and we'll continue to do that" "Frankly, that (revenue) is the least of our worries" "In fact, Australia Day we actually had a larger crowd in the park than the same day last year on Australia Day so there's some really positive signs coming through" "Our weekend trade is coming back to some sort of normality" "No, we haven't (let staff go due to revenue loss) and look, we managed the staff to the numbers of guests in park obviously" Just a thought - Does anyone think Stage 2 Of Dreamworld Corroboree could be the reason the Vintage Cars is closed?

Yes but no, it was not a secret and if you have not noticed, I always provide a source. I did not provide it immediately this time as I wanted quality discussion until the hypercoaster pieces appeared. The '2017 Movie World roller coaster' topic has been a waste of time reading lately so by not providing the link in this topic until the hypercoaster pieces appeared, it would have allowed discussion to focus on 1 aerial image for & at a time instead of everyone searching theme park aerial imagery en-masse and thus, having nothing to discuss as everyone then has already seen the aerial images. If the hypercoaster pieces arrived today, I would have posted the link immediately as I know there would be meaningful discussion on that topic now. The point of these forums is to have meaningful discussion on theme parks and that topic lately has been anything but. All I was trying to do was create meaningful discussion so as not to waste mine or other people's time. Here is another one for you @joz - Viking's Revenge under construction on Friday the 22nd of June 1979: Like I said in my original post, if anyone else has a request, just post it.

I just found a website where you can view high-quality historical satellite imagery of the Gold Coast. It is amazing seeing the theme parks in such detail in the past. Just an idea to 'past the time' until MW's hypercoaster track/support pieces appear, if anyone wants to see something specific of a Gold Coast theme park, just post below and I'll upload one (or the most popular request) each day until then. I'll provide the link to the full website (and thus, the source of the imagery) when the pieces arrive if there was something you wanted to see that had not yet been posted. To start off, here is Sea World on Tuesday the 10th of July 1973:

Some news footage from ITN, the Seven Network & the Nine Network: Thursday the 23rd of January 1997: Dreamworld's Tower Of Terror opening: http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist/RTV/1997/01/23/701230023/ Wednesday the 7th of April 1999: Wonderland Sydney's Bush Beast & Triple M's Whirl Till You Hurl: http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist/RTV/1999/04/07/904040036/

Try the 3 steps here in the 'View a map over time' section. That's the default setting I believe (unsure if you can actually change that permanently). Google Earth does that so you get the clearest possible view. If you had the up-to-date images, they might not be as of good quality or are covered by clouds (which is half of DW is Google Earth's latest update). Satellite images of SW in 2008 are the best images of SW so far & that's why they appear automatically. The only way I can access the up-to-date images is by following the 3 steps I linked to above.

Google Earth recently updated their satellite images so whilst they are not 'up to date', these are the most 'up to date' satellite images of the hypercoaster we have now: 1st October 2016: 15th October 2016: The area of the construction site near Justice League as well as the area along Entertainment Road had a lot of activity in the 15-day period between satellite images. And that's the best image quality Google Earth could provide.

I do think the Vintage Cars are a popular attraction but due to their current location, not many people go near it and thus, seem unpopular. If they moved it (like in my Thunder River Rapids (temporary) replacement idea) to a more prominent location, it's usage may reached pre-MDMC levels again.

So TopGolf Oxenford is going to include 2 swimming pools, a swim-up bar, a Callaway Golf Studio & a TopGolf retail store, @YLFATEEKS? That is what TopGolf Las Vegas also has apart from the 4th floor.

Interesting article about TopGolf in this month's edition of IAAPA's Funworld Magazine: The Long Drive: TopGolf Transforms The Fairway Into An Attraction Does anyone know if in the tender documents for the Oxenford TopGolf it confirms whether it would be similar to the Las Vegas TopGolf mentioned at the end of the article as the plans shown in this topic don't show what is in the interior of the building?

I was not saying you were wrong. I was just trying to explain my train of thought as you compared me to a sensationalising media outlet (see your post below) and well, you asked why I brought October up. It was my opinion too & you didn't respect it - instead assuming I was sensationalising just because I wrote 'especially after the events of last October'. I wrote that last post of mine long because I thought if I wrote it short, the way it read would lead to another comparison to a sensationalising media outlet or me being treated like I'm a troll. And to develop those statistics, apart from my perception of DW's attendance levels post-11/12/2016, I did use information from DW's re-opening weekend attendance figures, newspaper articles as well as Australian Bureau Of Statistics data to write a reasonable accurate paragraph. Data from 1995 is hard to find plus DW's attendance post-11/12/2016 is still commercial-in-confidence so I had to make reasonable approximations using the sources above to explain my thoughts. The opening day attendance of Australia's 1st Disney Store (3000 people) is the only statistic there that is 100% accurate. None. For everything that you cannot do at a normal shopping centre or online: See life-size LEGO models Pick bricks off their wall See a LEGO mosaic Engrave a brick Make your own minifigure Buy exclusive products

Source: Sea World's Attraction Maintenance webpage

Getting rid of it but maybe given the 'broken timber scattered across a footpath under a ride' imagery was not something you would want to see while wandering around a theme park, SW might have considered the investment to replace the timber temporarily worthy so it does not give guests the wrong impression (poorly maintained or built rides) than the real likely reason (still safe when not operating but better financially to replace in the future than repair instantly) especially during a time of intense media scrutiny. If you forgot what it looked like, here's a reminder:

No. Unlike the media, I didn't bring it up to antagonise or scare people - that was just how I felt. It was a personal opinion. I knew LEGO is considered one of the world's most powerful brands but I clearly underestimated their brand's power. Attendances have been down as we know & a new attraction would have provided a short but noticeable spike on opening day (as expected) but I did not expect LEGO's brand to produce a spike of that size. I was definitely not expecting attendance to be the same or lower than attendances between 10/12/2016 & 27/01/2017 because of the Thunder River Rapids incident. I was expecting less than usual for an opening day (due to Thunder River Rapids incident) but slightly more than usual than attendances post-10/12/2016. The Lego Store concept is similar to the Disney Store concept, which arrived in Australia in 1995 & disappeared in 2003. DW, though, currently has the advantage of having the only LEGO Store in Australia. Through research, I found the 1st Disney Store in Australia got 3000 people in it's 1st day of operation - major shopping centres (like Highpoint, where the 1st Disney Store in Australia was located) usually get 25,000 people per day on average in 1995 (so the Disney Store opening day saw a 12% attendance increase) & to me, DW's average attendance post-10/12/2016 is getting more than 3000 people on it's own so I expected only a small but noticeable spike in attendance (400 to 700 extra people approx or a 12% attendance increase) as Disney's & LEGO's brands are pretty much equal in power. I also was simply just expecting people to turn up like normal (i.e. not until 9am) due to it being a retail outlet that is open until 6pm. We don't see people camping out the night before when new theme park rides/attractions open (someone prove me wrong in September ) nor queues of that length that last all opening day (and especially for a retail outlet too!). Despite some considering it 'separate' to DW, to me, it is little different to Whitewater World (as it too has an 'external' entry gate). The only differences are is that LEGO is a powerful licensed brand & entry is free (though you are likely to spend money in-store anyway) and to get through to DW, you need to buy a ticket prior to entering the Store. In the end, the imagery of those long queues portrays public confidence in DW. Regarding your latter statement, I wasn't saying that DW would want it as a park entrance on purpose but more as an unintended consequence of having an external entry to the LEGO Store which allows entry to DW. @Jordan M. says they have ticket scanners so it's possible to treat it as an entrance if you are a passholder or if you get your DW ticket before going inside City Hall/Whitewater World. If it became too much of a problem at times, DW would just have to redirect people to ensure they enter via City Hall/Whitewater World if they intend on visiting DW during their LEGO Store visit. If Ardent Leisure did sell DW in the future, I now really think Merlin Entertainments would be the most likeliest to buy it - as I can now clearly see that the LEGO brand is very very powerful & given they already operate Legoland and Lego Discovery Centres, it would fit their portfolio really well. If DW's brand somehow ends up going beyond repair (which I think is now even more unlikely), they could also easily re-theme the park as Legoland Australia due to the generic theming of DW & the fact that a LEGO Store now operates at the front of the park. You may be wrong about that...

@themagician, it also now says 'WORLD'S FIRST DRIVING ADVENTURE PARK' despite the fact it is not. On Wild Buggy's franchise webpage, it mentions how you can already visit their franchise in Melbourne while Brisbane & Sydney are opening in 2016. I assume Brisbane meant Wet 'n' Wild Gold Coast so is it a coincidence Sydney is getting one too or is it actually for Wet 'n' Wild Sydney, which if it is, would be their 1st true new permanent attraction? No Sydney franchises at all have opened yet despite the promoted 2016 opening date.

Great queues for the LEGO Store opening! I did not expect queues of that length & duration especially after the events of last October. Just a thought - if these queue lengths or level of popularity continue more regularly than anticipated prior to 10am, does anyone think DW has considered the possibility of guests 'entering' DW via the LEGO Store instead of the main entrance from now on due to the 9am opening & how to deal with that? As it's likely that DW would have expected guests to treat the LEGO Store as an 'exit' from DW. In other words, instead of guests entering DW at 10am & leaving at 5pm by spending an hour at the LEGO Store, guests instead would be visiting the LEGO Store for an hour at 9am & visiting DW from 10am to 5pm before immediately the property after 5pm. What do other forum members think - would you go to the LEGO Store at 9-10am or 5-6pm? Also, does anyone know yet how they prevent people entering DW without a ticket? With crowds like that, it would be interesting how they managed access to DW via the LEGO Store.

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