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This is great news about DW probably getting a launch coaster but whilst it may, in the end, be in the Blue Lagoon/Big Brother Studios area (as it is a similar size), the only concern I have is can it fit with the Dreamworld Express circling the area (as the coaster makes some low passes on the outer edges) and why put it there leaving the Thunder River Rapids area still empty? I'd rather fill that latter space up otherwise people would still be walking past that site filled with the remnants of traumatic tragedy on the way to the new coaster. Here is how I imagine the new coaster placed in the area of the now-gone Thunder River Rapids: And how I imagine a kind-of artist impression: What does everyone think? It is reasonable to be Blue Lagoon/Big Brother Studios but I'm leaving all possibilities open until otherwise confirmed. Also, without any replacement yet for Thunder River Rapids, the Big Brother Studios/Blue Lagoon area is a bit out of the way still.

The public exhibition period for Grand Gorge Falls & Koala Kove finished recently so the plans are no longer accessible via Kiama Municipal Council's website.

I have never watched the show so might need someone else to explain how this could turn out (like how many questions?): Hard Quiz airs tomorrow at 8pm on ABC.

Sad to hear @Jobe. I'd give it not until after 2022 at this point - assuming it ever goes ahead - though it was highly likely to not be built until after 2020. Interesting he wrote "upcoming development applications" as all known future rides have already had a development application submitted for but it is likely he could have just been saying that for clarity. Still the more interesting question has not been answered: Since the alpine coaster was initially part of their current plan for the 2020/2021 season, what made them change their mind?

You are both right: Perth/WA is no Gold Coast, which is the mecca of Australian theme parks currently, so: non-WA theme park enthusiasts aren't going to go into extreme detail about every aspect of WA theme park's operations (like annual maintenance dates, food prices, season pass prices etc.) and all Australians are interested in the Gold Coast theme parks due to it's great base for a week-long holiday consisting of 6 theme park-related attractions. Again, it is the mecca of Australian theme parks. Lastly, sadly, Australian-unique WA theme park investment is rare. Only Abyss stands out as unique in Australia. There are also reliant Perth-based forum members to provide major updates on what is happening over there when need be. If Adventure World suddenly announced a hypercoaster, I'm sure the hype would be just as great as for DC Rivals HyperCoaster. Personally, I do not plan to visit Perth anytime soon so that's why I don't pay much attention to the Perth theme parks though when a new investment is announced over there, I do read about it to see what it is. Anyway, this is going off topic...

@AlexB True. I just wrote 'DA' as shorthand for 'application' as whilst there are types of applications on there that are not clearly a DA or a BA, I assume people unfamiliar with the new system to confuse the terminology of 'development' & 'building' applications as they sound like the same thing. Plus, apart from the application description, there is nothing else on there to read of note so I don't know why someone would look it up unless to just confirm it or contact the Council about the application? With the new system, hyperlinking the post to the application's webpage is also pointless as it always leads to an error page now. But I apologise to you for putting 'DA' as since you are familiar with the system, it led to you heading to the wrong section. It is a 'BA'. I'll quote the application number next time I post a 'DA' or 'BA' on the Parkz Forums.

I like theme parks but I don't follow every single thing occurring at theme parks hundreds of kilometres away. If there is something major, I'll follow it. Just like how I expect Gold Coast residents, who make up the majority of Parkz forum members, not to be interested in a one-off charity concert at Jamberoo but may be interested in major new extremely well themed rides or Australia's possibly first alpine coaster. It was just a natural assumption that containers hosting themed panic rooms on the Oxenford property would be for Fright Nights as I know they have held them for a long time & applications for them appear mid-year. I checked this topic, found no mention of the application so I posted it. I didn't know some other MW event had them recently. Being hundreds of kilometres away, I have better uses of my time than reading about a theme park event lasting just 2 weeks. There is very little chance for anyone outside of the SE-QLD/Northern NSW area to plan a holiday around a 2 week event, which was probably announced very shortly prior to it being held. I'm more interested in reading about permanent rides that will still be there next time I plan a holiday such as, most notably, DC Rivals HyperCoaster.

I don't follow that either. Well, you can all ignore my initial post in this topic then.

Not unexpected but this was submitted in early July:

I don't follow Fright Nights and I know they've done this before but just so you all know, this was submitted at the end of June:

I didn't mention this on the Parkz Forums a few months ago but Jamberoo Action Park recently hosted a 1 day charity concert called Take Action: They raised money for farmers but I doubt it provided a long term attendance boost for the park. Probably just a boost for the 1 day. It was the first concert hosted at the park in a long time (maybe 2 decades?) and was promoted locally. Good corporate social responsibility.

This is my theory: As Jamberoo has stated, their attendance is declining & they do not expect this new investment to significantly increase attendance permanently. I'd say this is due to the 'water park' model reaching market saturation hence the lack of investment at major water parks in recent years. Water parks are not as in demand as before as they are too many of them. Kangaroo Island was proposed about a decade ago to handle additional capacity and this recent announcement is not about adding additional capacity. This recent announcement is about a shift from an 'expansion' strategy to a 'rejuvenation' strategy. They are replacing their current attractions with more modern versions of them (see dot points below). They are moving with the times. The Alpine Coaster though could also be a reaction to the 'water park' saturation by shifting back to regular dry ride/attraction investment. Bobsled > Alpine Coaster Splash Out body slides > 2 SkyBox Multi-Bump Speed Slides Surf Hill > 8-Lane Octokraken Racer Splash Out pools > Koala Kove Koala Kove also features mushrooms (though not as large as the ones at The Rock). It may be that Koala Kove is also a replacement for the mushroom pool area of The Rock. This could indicate The Rock may be up for redevelopment but The Rock area is a pretty unique part of Jamberoo (probably either it's most or 2nd most well known attraction even if it is not just as popular as the Bobsleds) and it fits in with the soon to be added gorge theming in it's neighbouring site so I doubt they would remove it completely - maybe an upgrade involving a reduction down to only the jump area soon & maybe that will also be the final water ride upgrade of Jamberoo? Upgrades for the rest of the water rides (apart from the ones mentioned below) are either too soon, too costly or not needed. If my 'rejuvenate instead of expansion' theory is correct, this could mean Billabong Beach can be made redundant by the already operating Banjo's Billabong and/or the future Koala Kove while Rapid River can be made redundant with the proposed Platypus River, which should be the next ride built after Grand Gorge Falls/Koala Kove. Platypus River is featured (but not mentioned) on the plans above so they are still thinking about implementing it. Platypus River was initially just to accompany Rapid River in the park but to service the Kangaroo Island area with it's additional capacity. Clearly, that role is currently not needed as the attendance is not high enough. With water park market saturation & with Surf Hill's future now in question, this makes the whole Rapid River/Billabong Beach/Surf Hill area most likely redundant with replacements built elsewhere in the park possibly by summer 2021. Maybe Jamberoo are planning to remove this area in the future then? However, upgrading rides alone won't increase attendance - a point of difference does. Grand Gorge Falls, whilst having some similarity to Surf Hill, I think does this with it's grand scale & theming. If completed in summer 2020, it will be Jamberoo's most significant investment to date regardless of price tag/ride type. I mean, look how large it is! Look how well themed it is! If you know the size of Splash Out, well you know how large this is going to be. It will be larger than what it seems to look in the artist impressions (most accurate to give you a sense of it's size is probably the 'View From South' impression). It will be towering. I feel Jamberoo may underestimate how great this investment will be. It may increase attendance on the theming alone. And that will send a big message if that happened! Kangaroo Island's theming hasn't come to full fruition yet (though I expect it will mostly when Platypus River is built) but Grand Gorge Falls' theming, if approved & built on time, will be and I'm confident it will be one of the most aesthetic water park rides in Australia (though they are not many to choose from). Theming wins big here. This is the opposite of the problem with The Perfect Storm, which, whilst having unique & brilliant narratives/theming, had it's colour scheme nearly identical to Funnel Web, which is located right next to it. Worse than that, it was the next major attraction after Funnel Web to open. They looked too alike & too soon. Grand Gorge Falls & Surf Hill won't get mixed up with their contrasting theming & near 20 year gap between opening dates and we all know which of the two will capture the public's imagination from now on. Remember, this is only a theory. It may be completely incorrect. I think the tunnel will remain - it just will not have a slide on it if Surf Hill is removed. You can see in this photo that Surf Hill & the tunnel are separate particularly since they need piping for the tunnel's waterfall. However, as stated above, maybe they plan to remove Rapid River too and shift it to the proposed Platypus River?

Well aware of that as I pointed out at my post's conclusion: The fact it was not announced yesterday along with Grand Gorge Falls & Koala Kove indicates, to me, it is not part of that project at least. In the end, there was a plan at some point in the past 4 years (as the plans mention The Perfect Storm) and that is significant news in itself.

It seems, in their DA for Grand Gorge Falls & Koala Kove, they have inadvertently revealed a plan for an Alpine Coaster: Since it is difficult to see, I have highlighted the route of the the proposed Alpine Coaster. You can see the long lift hill (but it's fair to assume the queue will be via the Chairlift). The exit station is planned for the grass area immediately north of the bottom Chairlift station while the entry is planned for the rear of the top Chairlift station. And here it is with the Bobsleds & Chairlift highlighted: Superimposing it over Google Earth gets this roughly: (I'm sure it extends around to the rear of the top Chairlift station though as per above plans): No other details about this have been found, including whether or not they plan to proceed with it. It seems it will be in addition to the popular Bobsleds.

Here is the landscape plan (colour version): Grand Gorge Falls' 8-Lane Octokraken Racer: "With an overall ride length of approximately 160 metres and an elevational drop of 21.59 metres, this combination racer will be the largest of its type installed to date"(assuming that is still the case in summer 2020) "approximately five metres below the natural ground level" The general Grand Gorge Falls area is themed to gorges "such as Kings Canyon, Katherine Gorge and Finke Gorge / Palm Valley". Grand Gorge Falls' SkyBox Multi-Bump Speed Slides: "only one and three metres above natural ground level" Koala Kove: "This waterplay zone provides a wet deck approximately 25 metres long and 15 metres wide" It is anticipated, according to the DA, that Jamberoo Action Park "...will experience a slight increase in numbers in the short term, but in the medium to long term the owners aim to achieve sustained visitor numbers in line with current attendance rates" Some other interesting quotes from the DA: The DA mentions these new replacements as part of "Master Plan 2016". This very likely refers to Jamberoo Action Park's hints to a newly proposed $6.5 million large major custom-designed hybrid world-first ride back in 2017. Clearly, Jamberoo Action Park defines 'hybrid' differently. So what does everything think?

Kiama Municipal Council has put on exhibition an around $7 million plan of Jamberoo Action Park to demolish the Splash Out area which consisted of 2 body slides, 1 slow & 1 fast, both the 3rd oldest body waterslides in Australia (built 1981) & a couple of pools (also built 1981) which were upgraded in the past decade to add a rolling log & an octopus slide set. The bodyslides are to be replaced them with GRAND GORGE FALLS!... ...the pool set with KOALA KOVE! Of note, this is a slight drift from their Kangaroo Island masterplan, which was to happen completely in the surroundings of Funnel Web. The Illawarra Mercury today also reported: I know Surf Hill is right next to Grand Gorge Falls. The future of Surf Hill now will be interesting. I must say Jamberoo outstands me with their commitment to theming. Here is the queue & shade shelters design: Unlike The Perfect Storm, which received zero media attention during the DA process, this one has so hopefully the local residents have no issues with it. Otherwise, expect delays. The local residents biggest concern has always been the colour blending into the natural surroundings. Stay tuned to this and further posts for more new developments.

Jamberoo Action Park have revealed Grand Gorge Falls & Koala Kove! You can read more about it in this dedicated topic.

@Skeeta, this might be a bit off-topic but you might be able to help here: Another application was "lodged" to Gold Coast City Council the same day as the Thunder Lake Stunt Show one. This application was for the Oxenford property: It has 12th of December as the "decision date", which would make sense since Aquaman - The Exhibition opened the day after but this is despite any form of 'construction' occurring roughly a month prior to opening day and the "decision date" & still why was it only "lodged" on the 28th of February? Again, as far as I am aware, these plans have not yet been approved by a private certifier (I know Aquaman - The Exhibition has been open for nearly 3 months now & some sort of decision was made on the 12th of December) but according to Gold Coast City Council, this application is still "in progress" of being assessed by the private certifier. All the applications I've ever posted since June 28 last year also have had the "Application Type" as "Private Certifier Archiving", which I assume is related to the Council receiving the application from the private certifier & archiving it. However, since everything on the Council's website is so vague, I can't be 100% sure if any of these applications I've posted have been approved - not until "In Progress" has changed to "Completed", which I assume means it finally got approved. This Aquaman - The Exhibition application might be a good one to clarify things on - not just for me but everyone - as as soon as the Coroner's Report is released into the Thunder River Rapids incident (which should be in the next few months), I probably won't be following the Gold Coast applications as much anymore - not unless something else extraordinary happens in regards to DW's future or a new major ride (like DC Rivals HyperCoaster) is built at any Gold Coast theme park.

An application was lodged to Gold Coast City Council (not a link to the application - see the paragraph below the quote) on the 28th of February: I'd add a link to the relevant Gold Coast City Council application but from previous attempts to link applications from there in recent months, I've found it will just lead to an error message for you all due to last year's information technology system upgrade the Council implemented. As far as I am aware, Sea World's plans have not yet been approved by a private certifier but according to Gold Coast City Council they are "in progress" of being assessed by the private certifier. Now does the application description mean 1 performance stage or 'Stage 1'? If it is 1 performance stage, then that might be what they are building on the island and maybe there are multiple performance stages? If it is 'Stage 1', then what is 'Stage 2' and/or how many 'stages' are there? 🤔 I'd probably say it's the latter - 'Stage 1' of a masterplan. This would fit in with some recent rumours.

I understand people's disappointment in this announcement but whilst I think it's unlikely Ardent would do this, it would be cool if they let WipeOut's giant wave stay, get the water features on it working again and convert the pool where the shark was into the 'chill space' but with a circular water feature surrounding it featuring fountains (similar to the ones that shot up during the ride's cycle but on a smaller scale) and small cascades coming from the bottom of the wave and going around either side of the 'chill space' before disappearing underneath the footpath to enter the 'chill space' where the water would be cycled back up to the wave. A nice tribute to WipeOut & a great place to relax and cool during summer. But I feel Ardent would wipeout WipeOut 😜completely and just put a couple of umbrellas, chairs & tables there with some artificial lawn.

16 days later & SkyVoyager is still not opened. 10am is when the results are released, which is not far away. When the results are released, how many think Ardent will explain why SkyVoyager still has not opened or why they are reducing ride operating hours?

From The Daily Mail (Video which was part of the article can be found by clicking here) : I'm pretty sure the people who filmed the e-stop were ironically breaking safety rules (Quote from Tower Of Terror II's official webpage😞

From The Australian Financial Review (subscriber-only article): 3 key points: According to David Prescott, Managing Director of Sydney-based funds manager Lanyon Asset Management, Village Roadshow's overseas theme park assets are a "distraction", which should be sold to improve shareholder returns. Mittleman Brothers, Village Roadshow's 3rd largest shareholder support assets sales to focus on accelerating better theme park (and cinema) business profits. Chris Mittleman of Mittleman Brothers, Village Roadshow's 3rd largest shareholder, "would be willing to talk and consider proposals from anyone...outside of Village Roadshow who seemed to have reasonable ideas on how to improve the business and thus its returns for shareholders" Regarding the 2nd dot point, if anyone takes up his offer, remember Village Roadshow is not all about theme parks. I'm sure some of you would have "reasonable ideas on how to improve the business", theme park wise, though.

As I posted on Parkz last October, Ardent has made it clear in their public documents that they have received civil claims and some have been settled: However, one is now gaining prominent media attention: Whilst the above Twitter post & video of The Front Page does not point it out, the article published in The Courier-Mail emphasises (through their online headlines) the fact that the family is suing Dreamworld. The Courier-Mail's article can be found here (subscriber-only article).

I think it should be pointed out that we have found out recently that SkyVoyager was never built to "save the park" as you say @joz. A ParkChatLive interview early last month with DW's COO revealed they had planned SkyVoyager 3 months prior to the Thunder River Rapids incident occurring. Since SkyVoyager was announced after the incident (13 November 2017), we've all assumed this is what they were banking on to "save the park" but since they were planning it before the incident, that means the Whitewater World expansion is now most likely their 1st true reaction on how to "save the park" after the incident. How that & their other post-SkyVoyager plans occur should tell enough about how Ardent have been dealing with DW's future. SkyVoyager seems to have never been built to fix DW's attendance and finances. It seems to be just a coincidence that the ride's development began roughly when the incident occurred and after the incident, it seems Ardent just 'hoped' that in 2 years it would open, fix all their problems and everything will be back to normal. Also, can anyone explain to me why the COO's name tag says 'Melbourne, Australia' on it? (See 47:56 in the video)