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I long time for what? Skeet time’s lines go something like this. When you get a building approval you have 1 year to start the work before the building approval lapses. When you get an OPW approval you have 2 years to get a building approval before the OPW approval lapses. An OPW + a building approval gives you 3 years. With a building approval you get 2 years to finish the build before the BA lapses. You can get extensions to approvals before they lapses but this does cost money. When MW first lodged the application for the roller coaster they would have been looking at a start time being this year. You don’t get a building approval for 4 years down the track. You could get an OPW for 3 years down the track and this does happen all the time but not for a BA. Another point which you already know. How long does it take to build a coaster? I’m not talking about the install but how long does it take for the manufacture take to build a ride before it’s shipped to the park. I know things can change quickly, just look at WWW stage 3 but that never went as far as a BA. When you lodge drawings for a MCU they are pretty much in most cases just an outline of the proposal. For example, I want to build a camping area. You would just show the roads, the size of the approval, location of the camp sites and so on. You might show an area for a toilet block but at that stage you wouldn’t normally produce the full working drawing for the toilet. You might also show some pretty pictures for the council workers who can’t read plans. (jokes). Which gets me back to the roller coaster. To get a BA approval you require full working drawings. So back when the approval was completed the full design of the roller coaster was completed by my experience. The part I don’t know is did the ride manufacture start the construction of the roller coaster before the BA was approved or after? Either way given MW has till November to start the installation of the roller coaster. This would give MW a very small window of when they could cancel the order before the manufacture would have to start. As I said I don’t know how long it takes to manufacture a roller coaster and I don’t even know how big or what type of coaster it is, this all comes into play. This is my break down of times of when work will start and completed by. ROLLER COASTER – Start before 16/11/2016 Complete by 16/11/2017 CAMPING – Start before 2019 Complete by 2020 LAKESIDE PRECINCT – Start before 26/11/2016 Complete by 26/11/2017 (Note approval only for early works) AMENITIES BUILDING – Start before 27/11/2016 Completed by 27/11/2017 ENT PRECINCT – Start before 26/11/2016 Complete by 26/11/2017 (Note approval only for early works) HOTEL – Start before 26/11/2016 Completed by 26/11/2017 (Note approval only for early works) DEMOLITION – this is a bit different but has a completed by 13/01/2018 Things do happen between now and then but these dates are what MW first had in mind. Also we don’t know what is linked to what, so one could affect the other.

The technical name for a copy of plans now is called a whiteprint. A blueprint is a negative of the original plan. I've never been asked for a whiteprint. People just ask for a copy.

I don't think I would call it a trantrum. I would call it poking the beast. For the record I never thought you would give me the sweetness of information.

@AlexBI know that but djrappa has already thrown someone under the bus by telling us that someone else has told him. “I know and wish I could say but this one is a very tight lipped secret and my source is very official but has to be protected. I was shocked and blown away myself and I know you all will be too. Exciting times.” So now MW knows that someone told someone about something. I don’t think MW say it’s ok to tell one person but not another. Even if say dirappa was working on the project like if MW came to me for plans MW would not want me to say anything at all, not even what he has said already. He confirmed that a major project was going ahead and before that it was speculation. djrappa has already decided the amount of information he has provided is ok so that’s why I asked if he knows what area it’s being built in. If he told us the area that would not reveal his source and will still wouldn’t know what was being built.

Push can you outline the area on a google map that you are talking about. I'm a bit slow and I haven't seen the car park approval you are talking about. @djrappaIt’s about time you gave up your honey. Sharing is caring. There is no reason why you can’t give us a bit of information. Like hot & cold or in that area. I don’t think parkz have any contract with MW that we can’t divulge information.

^Yes the project could be unrelated but it does say "demolition works for NEW ATTRACTION" and it is not the norm to lodge an application like this to pull down the garden shed. I wish the G.C.C.C. could get the applications into order. We have 3 different OPW applications but as per normal G.C.C.C. can’t put something into the correct file. This makes it very hard to be a detective. I might have to go deeper undercover.

I'm with you AlexB, to scrap that building would be a waste. To build just the shell of that building you are looking at 1.2 million. If this is the area of the new ride then I hope they included it into the plans and did not just wipe it out. The good thing is when SW had a DEMOLITION approval they just gutted the building which makes me think MW would do the same.

Latest piece of the puzzle. Application Number: BLD201600155 Description: DEMOLITION WORKS FOR NEW ATTRACTION Code: BUILDING Class: DEMOLITION Work: DEMOLISH In short, something is about to come down so something can go up. Keep your eyes open Parkz investigators. Side note, double post is due to no one thinking what I said above was funny.

Great idea. Can I add something? Can we turn the giant drop into a lift and run the zipline from the top and over the tigers and ending up in the wiggles pool?

^make sure the queue is in the sun, so push and work on his tan at the same time.

The fear that I have with MW is that new ride will pull in more people into the park then it can service. MW need to create something that is a crowd pleaser but not a crowed puller. (I still want a crowed pleaser but they need to sort this shit) Even though I know people have already mentioned that DW have the space, so it seems like less crowed and even thou this is true DW always seems to add something extra for the busy period. I can remember things like the diving show, the Mummy maze and one year I believe they even had extra rides. Could they not leave one of the Fright Night mazes setup but keep it closed and just reopen it for the busy periods? The maze in the old maverick show area would make sense to me. Most people that go to Fright Night would be locals so a tourist would think. “Oh well! this is new”

Ha Ha, I always thought one Alex was good as the next Alex. Well not really. I agree dreaming has no place here, except for the 1.5 billion Powerball lotto draw tonight. @OceanGirl I agree that space is a problem and it does not help when china town is blocked off.

@Alex Berriman not a bad idea but to work out what they are running at, you would need to count how many boats are running on WWF or even better how many riders per cycle.

So with what people saying with the rides not running at 100% leaves me to think that it comes from the top to run the rides at 50% to save money. The only thing that makes me think why operations are that slow is to save money. Someone who has worked on the rides might be able to answer this but do the ride attendants have targets to work to? I don't know if the parks have this but I remember when my wife worked for Woolworths many many years ago she had a scan per minute target to reach. So if they do have a person per hour target to achieve then who is setting the target so low and why?

It was good the wnw stayed open to 7 each night.

Some very good points. One of the post on Facebook asked where are all the characters that MW had back in the day. MW said they don't stay out for long because of health and safety. If this is true would it not be easy for MW to set up an air conditioned room to help the people in the costumes stay out longer on hotter days. I don't think it would be hard for MW to create an area that you go into to meet them. They could even have different back drops that change with the characters.

As per the skeetrate and what I witnessed a good number of the guest did not have vip passes. Skeetrate tells me, like most people that it's not worth going during this period but I only went because of my sisters kids. Things that piss people off that I witnessed is having a 40min wait for the bumper cars when people can see clearly 6 empty cars siting on the side doing nothing. People who go to parks a lot would look at the empty cars and come up with a different conclusion to someone who goes once in a while to why the cars are not being used. DW this year stayed open late, had extra characters in the park and even spent money on the beatbox. MW did open early for vip people but only ran 2 rides and what could you do with your kids while you went on superman.

I did something last week that I never do and now I feel shame. My older sister came up to the Gold Coast from South Australia last week with her kids that I had never met before. Also I found out that her kids had never been to a theme park so I took them to MW, SW & WNW. From that comes my discussion. I could not believe how quickly MW becomes shit with large crowds. MW failed in every possible way that day. MW did nothing this year for its Christmas guest. 3 hour wait for scooby-doo is unacceptable. My sister got there when the park opened. I arrived just over an hour later and they were still in line. Some people might be saying to themselves Skeets lost the plot again, it didn’t take 2 hours to ride the WWF well guess what it did. I think Skeets drinking again, did he just say 30mins to get a drink refill. Don’t believe the SKEET then go to MW facebook page and look at the reviews for the last 2 weeks and then compare it to all the other parks. MW has been an epic fail this holiday period. When I go to a park and I see a que, I give it a skeetrate. No I did not make that word up it’s just how things are done. Skeetrate = time in que divided by quality of ride and then you times by the chance you get to ride it again. In short (t/q)x r= Skeetrate. Nothing at MW gave me the answer I needed to ride it. Don’t get me wrong I want MW to be busy but it still has to be worth going too. Would you pay to see ACDC in concert but told you had to sit outside or sorry but you can only listen to one song. MW needs to find a way to soak up the crowds during the busy times. Which comes back to my discussion on what MW needs to do to fix the overcrowding in the park?

If bind is the correct term then I think it does bind up a little. I can't tell if the rider keeps it going or the momentum pushes it past the bind. I suspect it’s the swinging causing it to bind.

I don't know if it's GAMEOVER or GAME OVER. Some of the pictures they put up have it one way then the next one has it the other way. To find it the Facebook page is Game Over GC. I have never ridden a Zip Coaster with a lift hill before.

It is at Gameover which is on the other side of the M1, across from Movie World. I think I will just have to try it out for myself. If you go to the Gameover facebook page you will find a video on it.

Has anyone had the chance to ride the new Zip Coaster yet?

Why can't something catch fire and put itself out? Have you never fired up a wood BBQ and it keeps going out?

It's the correct attitude when your young one is always watching it. My wife just tells me to exit the house.

You walk away.