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Anything can happen, but right now when you buy a Season Pass it says, "Unlimited entry to 4 world-class theme parks for one whole year." That's after all the cuts they've already made. So unless you're saying Village is misleading people, their own marketing suggests all four parks are expected to remain part of the pass for the year. The way things are going, WnW is probably the life jacket keeping Village afloat. 😉

If Village was going to close WnW, @Noll_57 they would've done it when MW and SW had their operating days cut. Waiting to next year would be like announcing Christmas has been cancelled on Boxing Day.

It makes sense that RW isn't open every day. Sydney winters can get a bit chilly, and NSW isn't exactly the theme park capital of Australia. But a water park in the Gold Coast, with warm winters, in Australia's theme park capital closing for half the year? Do they think people go on a polar expedition when it hits 22°C. (Then again, maybe I shouldn't be too surprised. Didn't some of the staff come from Village?, the company that brought polar bears to the tropics) 🤣

Sorry, I was in a rush yesterday and didn't address the weight claim. Modern coaster trains are lighter than trains built 20 years ago because early systems were over engineered resulting in heavier chassis. LSM trains also don't normally carry magnets. The train uses aluminium or steel reaction fins that interact with the stators mounted in the track. The fins typically only add a couple of hundred kilograms to the train. On the other hand, a tyre launched train requires steel friction plates for the launch tyres to grip, and those components would no longer be needed. Ultimately, the decision comes down to cost. If DW sees the retheme as a long term investment, an LSM launch makes more sense if not a cheaper system makes more sense. Also, launch "kick" isn't determined solely by top speed.

Height, you are currently sitting on a motorbike. Height would be no issue. Weight, I believe I was talking about a spinning coaster. It could be either launch because both your issues can be worked around. It's up to how much DW is willing to spend on the ride.

If the new transformer is dedicated specifically to the ride and not part of a wider park electrical upgrade, it makes the LSM theory more likely. I have always thought DW would go a LSM launch over an electric tyre launch, although the cost difference between the two would be substantial. An LSM would be the closest equivalent to the original hydraulic launch, offering smooth power with a kick. While an electric tyre launch could be a alternative, replicating the same acceleration but the kick of the hydraulic system would be much harder to achieve. i think their final decision will come down to how much remaining life they believe they can get from the existing track.

I'm hoping it was just bad luck and not a recurring problem. This is only speculation based on what I've seen online, but it appears the same product may have been used. Of course, I don't know that for sure. If it was, it's also possible Jungle Rush's issues were limited to the panel finish rather than the product itself. Pico Play MW DW

Wizard of Oz is not a go go. Is is there something happening behind the scenes in OZ or is this just dumb? "We'll stagger the maintenance so guests always have one ride to enjoy." Also Movie World: "Let's close both."

@TV15 It really comes down to this: unless you live in a cave and leave the smallest possible footprint on the planet, it's hypocritical to demand that DW never develop any of its land because it contains bushland. Every suburb, shopping centre and industrial estate exists because bushland was cleared at some point. Funny how everyone wants more koala habitat, as long as it's someone else's land. If they're that worried, bulldoze their own house and plant a gum tree. Some of the same people will also constantly tell you coal is evil and happily fill their homes with cheap stuff made in China, much of it manufactured using Australian coal. Apparently coal is only a problem when it's here. The outrage is selective, the logic is inconsistent, and the hypocrisy is hard to miss.

The fence should go in the trash.......................... Funny how climbing train with soft fall gets called dangerous, but a fence with trip hazards at the bottom and pointed tops gets a free pass. Maybe the hazard isn’t always the thing kids should be playing on.............🤣

It’s funny watching everyone jump straight to “what are they building?” while Coast Entertainment’s first move is much less exciting and are seeing how much this approval has boosted the balance sheet, my belief is, they will answer the big question: “How much can we sell, sell, sell this land for?”

Does the work on the substation mean DW is preparing for a new LSM launch to go with the new trains, or are they taking the opportunity to carry out some housekeeping while the ride is already closed for its major refurbishment?

I'm starting to think DW's marketing strategy is just "accidental comedy." They leaked enough station photos to feed the internet, then tried to stop us when we figured out the ride name. Congratulations, you've successfully invented a treasure hunt and then tried to ban maps. DW: "Here's a pile of clues!" Everyone: "We solved it." DW: "How dare you!" 🤣

The Qld Government has now granted final approval for the development. Coast Entertainment is now undertaking a land valuation to assess the impact the approval has had on the property's value.

You're a hard marker @ShakeShack 😂 As far as I'm concerned @Ogre has been upfront with us.

This discussion isn't about targeting anyone. It's just something I've been thinking about for a while. I've been wondering where the happy medium is before a creator becomes an extension of a park's marketing team. (I don't believe many if any creators start out because they want to market a park) From what I've seen, one park has really embraced working with creators, and I think it's played a big role in improving public perception of that park. (just my view). Another park, on the other hand, hasn't really leaned into it, and the public perception of that park seems to have gone the other way. I'm not saying that's the only reason. The park has definitely made some decisions that haven't helped its own cause, and I completely agree with that. But I also don't think the shift from "good park" to "bad park" can't be explained in this case as purely by how the park is run. The waiting times on rides still not perfect but 100x better then what they were 2 years ago. The new show still doesn't meet my high standards but it's still better then what we had before. And don't forget Scooby is now open even though they f^&ked the disco room. ☹️ When a park is very proactive in building relationships with creators, it can be hard sometimes not to wonder where the line is. It doesn't mean anyone is doing anything wrong, but it can make you question whether opinions are completely independent or influenced by that relationship. Again, this isn't aimed at anyone in particular. What you mentioned yesterday just brought the topic back to the front of my mind. And for what it's worth, you do get a few bonus points on the Skeet Trust Board. Owning up to it instead of quietly deleting the post and pretending it never existed was the better way to handle it. You could have removed it and I'd never have known.

WOW you are lost @Naazon 😂

LOL, I get where you're coming from, but at the end of the day the parks do have the right to decide how and when they release their own information. Just because something appears out onto a public website doesn't necessarily mean they are ready for everyone to run with it. For me, them asking me isn't really the issue. What I’d actually be interested to see is what would happen if all the creators simply said no to the parks. It would be interesting to see how much influence the parks really have, and whether the relationship works both ways. Social media is a powerful marketing tool. Yesterday some creators were unleashing the news onto their communities, then suddenly it all got taken back. Makes you wonder, who owns the conversation? The creators who built the following, or the parks?

I want to discuss how much weight people should give to theme park creators when those creators have relationships with the parks. Parks can provide access, early information and exclusive opportunities, but that also raises questions about independence, criticism and whether creators can influence or be influenced by the parks. Where is the line between being a fan, a promoter and an independent voice? I try to stay away from social media because you only ever see the side of the story that someone chooses to show. You never really know what is happening behind the lens or what information might be missing. After all, even a duck looks calm floating on a pond, but underneath it’s paddling like it’s late for a date. That’s one of the reasons I like forums. They give people a place to discuss things openly without having the same level of direct influence from the parks themselves. People can question, debate, disagree and look at things from different angles without feeling like they have to protect access or maintain a relationship. It doesn’t mean forums are always right and social media is always wrong, because every source can have its own biases. But I like having a space where the discussion is driven by the community rather than by what fits into a a carefully planned video. Sometimes the messy conversations are where the most interesting ideas come from. Probably why I sometimes clash with people on forums is because, when I know someone is also a creator, I’m not always sure what angle they are coming from. Are they sharing an opinion purely as a fan, or are they protecting their future opportunities?

The name isn't the important part. We've seen ride names change before. What the public website has really given us is the theme of the ride, and judging by Dw's habit of tapping into its own history, I'd be surprised if Gold Rush doesn't leave its mark on the final attraction in some way.

If it happens again............

LOL, I’m not chasing the fame. I asked for Parkz to be credited. The Parkz community has always been pretty good at acknowledging sources when information comes from social media (like people on Parkz give your page credit if you are the source) . If Parkz is where the information originated, then it’s only fair that people using it as a source give credit back the same way. Keeps things fair for everyone. You’re actually one of the few who normally do give credit, so it is a bit unfair for me to lump you with the others.

And It’s only fair, @Ogre , @themagician , and all the other social media scavenger birds who quietly circle these forums (some of whom never even drop a post) that if you’re going to swoop in and collect information from Parkz, at least give the source a little shout out.

Lost Mine Mayhem still lines up with my theory that Greg was dropping a hint that the new trains will be spinning. The ‘Mars Discovery’ clue which I thought was pointing towards a spinning coaster is what makes me think this could be the direction they’re heading. Time will tell.