DaptoFunlandGuy

While it wasn't the first park on the coast with inversions (Dreamworld opened Thunderbolt in March 1982), Sea World one-upped by having the first 'triple inversion' coaster with Corkscrew, so I don't think it's that cut-and-dry to say what park should have inversions. Rivals is arguably the most thrilling coaster on the GC (cue debate from other camps, but remember I said "arguably") - and it has no inversions. The point is that inversions do not necessarily equal "thrills". I agree with Spotty, I'd like to see a different style coaster in SW later down the track, and inversions wouldn't hurt. 😕 As for MW - there is no way they're taking Doomsday, Showstage and part of west to build a steel inverting coaster. That area would rock if you put in a woodie, but the space is so much better utilised for various applications, rather than solely given over to yet another coaster the park really doesn't need.

That's an awful lot of words to say you made it all up in your head. "Massive Pyramid Temples" could be ascribed to South America, or Africa... or even - *gasp* - Australia. Yes, Australia also has an archaeological pyramid site too - once thought to be work of Egyptians, Mayans, Phoenicians, Chinese, or even - Aliens... (maybe Bermuda had merit after all) The tasman company could be because they're FROM the tasman region, but remember that the Tasman Sea (and Tasmania) were derived from a dutch explorer. You've jumped to the jungle being aussie rainforest, despite the fact it's not a rainforest, plus the origins of the name Murrisippi (coined by John Longhurst after visiting Disneyland) could just as easily lean towards the Mississippi River rather than the Murray River and be located somewhere in the Louisiana Bayous? It's not a fucking history lesson, nor is it a geography one. It's entertainment. They don't have to be period and location accurate. Just because it doesn't fit your narrative, doesn't mean they haven't had attention to detail or anything else you care to complain about. For once we're getting something that's actually THEMED and we can SEE the level of DETAIL in the THEMING elements before CONSTRUCTION is even FINISHED and instead of talking about how COOL the ROCKWORK looks or how TWISTY the track elements are or how FUN the MULTIMILLION DOLLAR ROLLERCOASTER looks - you're going to whinge about AI involvement (again) and by extension seek to rubbish all other elements of the design scope from the comfort of your Kmart gamers chair by the glow of your ANKO brand LED strip lighting. These guys are paid to do this. You aren't. There's probably a reason why that is.

Brisbane Wheel is just over 50m diameter, and the footing requires around a 25x25m pad Melbourne Southern Star Observation Wheel is around 110m diameter, footing goes about 55m wide, not sure on the overall footprint though as the supports dont appear to be symmetrical... The castle space could absolutely accommodate a wheel, though the size would have to be carefully considered as its not super straightforward - the widest clearance (the diameter of the wheel) required is only halfway up the wheel, so you can potentially build over top of some other facilities or attractions. The castle space is also elevated from it's surrounds, so it's already clear of almost every nearby obstacle that you could probably fit a Southern Star sized wheel in easily, giving more spacious cabins than what Brisbane offers. While the footprint is not big enough for what is in Melbourne, the majority of the footprint is open space, with a support column near the corners - this could easily be worked around the existing pathways in Sea World without much impact or redirection. Personally I think it would be best in an East-West orientation (top to bottom in the picture below), giving views up and down the park for the majority of the ride, rather than primarily looking at water on both sides. (And if the monorail station is removed, there's even more space - plus those bathrooms underneath it could do with a refresh)

I haven't seen anything official that says Mayan. Or Rainforest. Or Aussie. Or a year we're supposed to believe it's "set" in. It could be 2024 in there and we're just touring a temple that has been open to the public for decades, but they're using olde timey vehicles to make it feel more authentic to the tourists? It's called "Jungle" rush. it's vague enough to be anywhere. Why do we have Model Ts and war-era jeeps? fuck knows. maybe the guys who landed with the model Ts established the camp and then the Americans discovered there was oil in the temple so they sent the military in to "liberate" the oil people Maybe its the Aliens, upset about being evicted from Sea World, and they've set up camp in Dreamworld to try and lure in more humans to experiment on? Does that mean you're going to get upset when you can see Giant Drop or the Diesel powered train you're going to toss your toys out of the cot?

I think the wet\dry park ship has sailed. Sea World Water Park was turned into battle boats and a splash pad because bringing your swimwear, towels etc and lugging them all around the park (as well as losing an hour of more of your day to the waterpark when there were so many other things to do) just wasn't a popular idea. If you want to swim, there's two waterparks that have you covered. Waterslides do not belong in a non-waterpark. Water attraction, maybe - but i think battle boats and storm already have the 'get wet' situation covered, and the park really needs fleshing out with some high capacity dry attractions to soak up the crowds. It's been said hundreds of times before, but what sea world really needs is an observation attraction, preferably a giant wheel (towers are impacted by winds - just like trident is, so a wheel with a semi-continuous load would be preferable). Heck if every two-bit japanese town can have a ferris wheel, there really isn't much reason why Sea World can't... especially as the spit height limits are no longer a thing.

Aliens conducting a secret human experiment inside a volcano in the Bermuda Triangle, apparently located on the Gold Coast. Walking through a door into a 'Hollywood film set', but having to board an earth drill to be transported 'back to Australia' Who said these stories had to make perfect cohesive sense? jesus christ, suspend your disbelief for a while and just appreciate that an Australian Theme Park is actually putting in actual effort to theme something instead of slapping a logo on it and calling it a day. Yet more proof enthusiasts will never be fucking happy.

Just like Wipeout > Kickback Cove, it is better to have a nicely landscaped and eye-pleasing 'rest area' than an old rotting attraction structure or empty ride pad that clearly shows something missing that used to be there when its in the middle of your park. Rides should be interspersed throughout the park. If you look at 'original sea world' in the postcard in my post above, you had attractions dotted all along the spit. Many of those attraction areas have already been given over to animals already. I can count approximately 17 non-animal attractions in that postcard, though do note that i'm not counting any kiddie attractions aimed primarily at kids under 10 (mainly because I can't see them \ don't know if there are any) I've included the circus tent without knowing what is inside it - it may be an animal presentation or not - I don't know. Today - I count 14, IF you include all 8 children's attractions - including the kid's showstage (splashpad should be coloured also). (I'm sure i've missed some things or made a mistake here or there, feel free to let me know, but I think the imbalance is still quite obvious) We've lost a not-insignificant number of all-age attractions. We've also used a very significant chunk of land for animal habitats that we didn't previously have. All of the non-kids attractions we have now are prohibitive in some way - either high-thrill, restricted restraint, very unreliable, or are water attractions that aren't hugely popular for half the year. Now i'll grant you a lot of retro sea world's attractions were water based, but the remaining 'dry' attractions still offered variety. In both images, red notes non-marine-animal attractions, and blue indicates marine animal attractions.

...and the logo has moved 16px to the left.

There is a growing trend of people who are against animals in captivity of any kind. But all animals rights issues aside, building a brand new exhibit for animals you literally just referred to as "least cared for" isn't the direction I want sea world to go. It's not going to drive gate, it's not going to increase profits, it's only going to cost money, and it isn't needed. Also, The castle was not originally a theatre. The facade was built with VR but was originally open air inside the castle walls. (Bonus Fun Fact - it also used to have waterslides coming off the rear of it where the penguin habitat is now) something something tenuous movie tie-in something what's rio bravo something splash.

These days you'd be better off snapping a photo and using Google Lens than trying to identify a single reference photo of a fish that may or may not match the one you're seeing in the tank due to differences in markings and whatever. I'd bet google was far more accurate and faster. Yeah - that's a dirty word these days - "captivity" and many of the marine parks are tending to shy away from introducing MORE animals into their parks. Land animals can at least have a bit more of a 'natural' habitat - but even the amazing lagoons we have for Dolphins really doesn't cut it compared to the open ocean, and there is more push not to keep animals in tanks... big or small. Additionally, I don't really want Sea World to be investing in 'paintings in a hallway' and especially not in the prime real estate occupied by the castle. The park needs attraction space first and foremost if it is to survive beyond the life of it's current captive attractions. Also, while the dreamworld example isn't that far off, they're still land animals, and have a slightly different exposure from animal rights groups. All your other examples are actual zoos, not sea-themed amusement parks with rides. (*Caveat here - I know Sea World is a member of the Zoos and Aquariums association etc etc, I'm just inferring the difference between this and say Taronga or an Aquarium where the animals are the primary and only experiences.) Exactly this. I want Sea World to remember it's roots, but it can't hold onto the 'tank life' and must adapt into the future.

A parade involves contra-flow with wide vehicles that can barely pass each other. When a single vehicle tours main street (such as when the Mystery Machine does the rounds) a single member of Mystery Inc walks in front of the vehicle to ensure safety. This is no different. I'm not sure Village would do it either, but the idea was put forward, and it was shot down based on the supposed work involved to bring it online. I simply responded to show that an (albeit simple) version of the idea could be put into practice with VERY LITTLE effort - the assets are already in place, there are cast members already trained in how to operate the vehicle. They would need procedures for guest loading and operations, and as a passenger vehicle there may be some regulatory requirements, but my point is the vast majority of the pieces are already in place, if they had chosen to do something like that. A decision to charge for a 'main street vehicle' would almost guarantee the concept would die from lack of use. I'd like to see SW have a transport option as the park is a long boi, but a road tram style option isn't viable as there is nowhere to turn around currently - hence why the monorail and train were always great options (as was the skyway). I'm not sure DW could do it - main street is accomodating enough, but the bottleneck around claw, and lack of turnaround space near Gold Coaster would kill it. They at least have a train to fill the 'transport ride' hole in their lineup. To hell with capacity, The main street vehicles are more about kinetics than 'how many guests it can take'. Stops along main street wouldn't ruin Main Street. A stop outside Batwing, Another near sweet treats, a third near West Burgers, a fourth near Rick's - all places where the pathways widen or there is a secondary path around the obstacle. Disneyland has track-bound vehicles like the horse drawn trolley, but also freely-driven vehicles such as the fire truck and the omnibus (or by your apparent standards, the Anaheim Metro). These vehicles literally run from the front of main street to the Castle and back. Some vehicles don't require a walking escort, and some do (and some require it only when it gets busier, but when the park is slammed, many of the vehicles are taken off main street to reduce the obstructions to foot traffic). I don't buy your arguments for why it shouldn't be possible to do it. As I said above though, I'm not sure this is something village would actually implement - but the idea was put out there. Reasons were put forward why it couldn't be possible, i'm just countering those reasons to show not only that it is possible, but that it's been done elsewhere. Like Magician, my immediate reactoin was to bring up Shark Bay - especially the 'reef' side - as a counter to this argument, but when I think to other aquariums i've visited - such as Sentosa SEA, Ocean Park's Grand Aquarium, Osaka Aquarium - They've had smaller tanks with different species that can't really exist in the reef. There are plenty of places in the park where smaller tanks could be implemented - including the above ground areas at Shark Bay and Penguin Encounter's lower corridors. There's a lot of work in maintaining them and BOH equipment to look after also. But that's a fully-fledged aquarium. There aren't a great many "small tank" aquarium spaces in places like Sea World San Diego either - large tanks for dolphins, whales, smaller ones for Seals and SeaLions, but not really many for smaller exhibits, if any, that I can recall. I'm not sure this is where I want Sea World to put their efforts into the future.

I think you're overthinking it. DCA runs the red car trolley through California Adventure park, and while they have at least two, i've seen them run only one on some busy days. Capacity isn't a huge concern as it is self-controlling - if people queue up at a trolley stop and it's full or there's already too many people waiting, they continue on to the next attraction. If its empty, or its a quieter day, its a great opportunity to tour the park from a different vantage point and rest those weary legs. The park is already set up with a parade route with vehicle clearances, and they've brought vehicles in from both Western and Tunes ends for shows and the like. You'd have to check clearances but I reckon you could run this circuit pretty easily with a trolley vehicle or similar. (The WB Kids tree is my main concern, but you could easily just circle the grass at Ricks to have a "WB Kids" stop if you really wanted to) And the best part is - they've already got the vehicle! (Though I would like to see them add a few other "main street vehicles" for this purpose.)

this seems to make sense in theory, but i've always found that the big thrill rides aren't as popular at WC because the event is mostly frequented by younger families. Scooby always gets slammed because of the target demographic but the DC corner isn't as busy as it is during FN, IMO.

This post is about a B&M Flyer, not a waveswinger.

I already explained my view on Incredicoaster so i'm not going to repeat myself for the sake of pedantry. Of course Tron's train doesn't accommodate loose items at all.

I mean, WWW was built out of a lot of carpark - it wouldn't be too difficult to expand into the bottom end of the carpark next to Hydrocoaster if they really wanted to, but I do agree with your sentiments - the Thunderbolt land should be reserved for WWW.

Curious timing - DW posted pictures of crates that had landed at the park, and suddenly MW is posting pictures of crates that are in-transit...

...that doesn't go over top of guests.

I think the main callout from those though is that Tron and Superman both go over guests, whereas for the most part, none of the others do, so if loose articles fall out, they aren't at risk of hitting anyone. (Incredicoaster is perhaps the only exception to the rule, though all of the high force sections are sectioned away from guests, so i'm not sure that it disproves the point)

You're not wrong, but they can't afford that right now. They're still building the dry park up, and winter operations at the water park should definitely NOT be the priority "now". But provided their trajectory continues upward, I could see them refocussing within the next 5 years to start building it up and expanding it prior to the Olympics. But the dry park isn't ready and isn't producing sufficient revenue to eat the off-season losses at an open waterpark when it's approaching zero degrees outside.

I get the feeling Sea World has more to come. Like MW they've gotten a bit of a reputation about having things closed, so expanding their lineup can't hurt. I kinda see WWW as less of a critical factor for several reasons - not least of which is it's seasonal operation. As long as they continue to operate it for only part of the year, I don't think WWW is the priority. Also, because it is co-located, it's more open for park hopping during the day, whereas a WnW day tends to be a full day for most guests, because a park hop typically requires bundling into the car to relocate closer to the other park. For all those reasons, WWW is not really in the same (forgotten) position as WnW - WnW really needs to be able to hold its own as a full day park, whereas WWW has for several years now been regarded as a part-day add-on, and only for part of the year. Look, Gerstlauer's foray into Australia with Abyss was Abyss-mal. That rollercoaster should be condemned. I'd love to see a HangTime clone over here as it is hands down my son's favourite rollercoaster, and the one by which all others are compared. It's a lot of fun, plenty of inversions and thrills, with a lower height requirement than some of the other big boys. I'd mention the awesome lighting package it has, but sadly we'd never see it with our 5pm closure times. As long as they've ironed out whatever issues they had with Abyss and the Australian Weather conditions, it's a plus one from me. I'm not an engineer so i'm not about to say they could replace the hydraulics with LSMs without some sort of swing being necessary without seeing some real data on it. What I will say as a layperson is that the full length of the superman launch is approximately 40 metres long, to crest a 40 metre tophat with a max speed of approximately 100km/h. Meanwhile Steel Taipan uses a magnetic launch system approximately 75 metres long (which it hits three times in a swing launch). And the max height for steel taipan is the same 40 metre height, with a comparable max speed of 105km/h. Intamin might have some shit-hot gear over what Zamperla is using, but is it really (napkin math) 6 times better than Mack Rides systems too? it's ok, they'll just relocate it to Sea World in 2027, due to open in 2032!

I don't think you've got the launch length for LSMs to work, and a swing launch wouldn't work with the current storyline, unless it's "Superman: Escape from the old folk's home"

You'd be surprised what they can fit into tight spaces when they try...

WetNWild is the poor cousin that everyone forgets about. I think the pre-covid pattern of a park having 'their turn' is probably a little bit outdated, and there is more for the parks to do than just open blockbuster attractions each year. We've also seen Village group projects run simultaneously across several properties, and also several projects at the same property. Likewise Dreamworld needs to keep up momentum and going a year or two without 'something' will see them fade quickly. I personally think we'll see the parks capitalise on the success of their big attraction releases this (or early next) year by introducing some new entertainment offerings, and perhaps filling some of the smaller gaps in their lineups by opening smaller or lower cost attractions for kids or the family market - as I feel they've both got a lot of thrills already taken care of.

BB Studios was demolished at the time they were building the ampitheater and proposing a lazy river with crocodiles in it. I don't think logic really comes into that era of the park.