DaptoFunlandGuy

Thanks Brad. I'm a little disappointed that didn't get more appreciation, I thought it was pretty good. @Baconjack here's a sneak peak. Yeah there's been a lot of back and forth over whether they'd be ready, and it's looking like those who thought it wouldn't make it's due date were wrong about that - but just as people were saying it won't make boxing day, it could just as easily not make January 18th - don't count your chickens - though the eggs are starting to crack...

The Website After Dark | Dreamworld is back up and has more information on the event. Dreamland, Taipan, Giant Drop and The Claw are all confirmed to be open (subject to change obvs) as well as Rivertown. a 5 ride express pass is also on sale for $49

I'm not making shit up. I said 'According to you the current dreamworld bosses are incapable of running a park they have been employed to run'. Greg has been employed to run both Dreamworld and White Water World, and you have stated that he cannot run a water park. My statement is factual, and there are plenty of replies on the forum of you arguing that point that i'd love nothing more than for you to dispute this fact. Enjoy your flight, hope you have a really LONG holiday, preferably away from a data connection.

According to you the current dreamworld bosses are incapable of running a park they have been employed to run too, but as usual you're only focussed on the narrative that suits. But given how vocal they are... devil's advocate... perhaps this isn't 'f#*king' it? Actually it isn't my 'defence', I was just pointing out that the cars have had a roof previously. My actual 'defence' if that is the phrasing you'd like to go with - is that this is what they've deemed appropriate to suit the attraction theme and style - you know, because they're very vocal on de-f#*king this stuff. And the fact that model Ts rolled off a factory floor in a certain configuration means nothing to what the owners ingenuity turned them into to serve a purpose or meet a need. And again *broken record time* You asked why the cars needed a roof. i'm going to wait and see the finished product. My mind immediately went to the effects angle, but the sun-protection angle also makes a lot of sense, and could really be that simple...

But when Jurassic Park opened, the machinery didn't eat the guests.

Dreamworld restored the train station, but still replaced the original rolling stock and loco with a modern equivalent to suit the requirements of the day. The funny thing about the model T is that it was the jack of all trades. they were used for everything from town cars to ambulances, freight transport to campervans. Some versions rolled off the factory in a certain fit-out, but others were literally retrofitted by their owners into whatever purpose-built function they were needed for. The best part about the T was that the timber bodies were able to be modified pretty easily in the average workshop using whatever wood was handy. And spoiler alert, this isn't the first time that Dreamworld Vintage Cars have had a roof on them I'll just go back and repeat myself...

As usual, i'll wait and see the final product. It's unlikely to be a loose article issue, IMO because they'd do a poor job of that. Only other thing I can think of is maybe the finale inside the tunnel has effects that requires the roof of the tunnel to be hidden?

Well, there's no whiplash bar so they're already off to a better start than last time.

Running a business doesn't seem like yours..

I'll use crayon next time.

I'm sure this isn't the first time i've said similarly. i'm quite sure i've been very clear.

I never said it happened after every load. And i've referred to their ops policies as being ridiculous. I'm just saying - a lot of the ops crew work really hard in the conditions they're given, and things that label the ops as 'lazy' or 'having a chat' isn't fair - especially when those ops get no right of reply. There are operators that are not motivated, and that is another failing of the company - but slinging mud on the operators en masse isn't cool.

Well, you really don't know what they're discussing. They could be chatting about the awesome pub crawl that they just had, or they could be receiving instructions from the supervisor that they need to remember to follow a certain safety procedure, because something was just missed. Again Devil's advocate - we know the village procedures aren't the fastest and maybe one of those is a regular checkin between supervisors and station staff to ensure everyone is on the ball. My experience at USJ in Summer is a little different. As far as flying dinosaur went: 4 people were at the entrance to the queue line. Some were checking express pass entries, some were directing guests to the test seat, and all of them were waving frantically as if their lives depended on it. Another worker was at the end of queue merge before the lockers directing people to the 'briefing' spaces 4 workers occupied the briefing spaces, holding laminated cards with instructions in multiple languages informing people to remove everything from their pockets, and then issuing them with locker barcodes An additional 2 workers patrolled the lockers to assist with locker issues 4 more workers manned the handheld metal detectors prior to the final queue line. Even with this many cast, short queues formed in front of each worker to be permitted into the final queue line. Then one grouper, and two restraint ops per station I should add that they allowed the piece of paper used to unlock the locker to be kept in a pocket, but a slightly larger piece of paper with an express pass barcode had to be placed in the locker. Naturally it wasn't metal so on subsequent trips we didn't bother to put it in a locker and it never fell out because it was inside of the fall-resistant locker paper. Yes ok, blah blah, USJ gets more people than MW so not as many staff required - but MW still gets similar wait times to USJ and TDR so I think its a fair comparison on the numbe of staff required.

Just being devils advocate here, but not all stacking is the fault of the crew. Guests constantly board the ride with things in their pockets, or dally around with their loose items. I absolutely agree Village's standard operating procedures don't really allow the Ops crew to be 'fast' but station delays are inevitably caused by guests a lot of the time. Why do you think the Ops spiel at the top of their lungs to the queue repeatedly about things in pockets, etc?

8 years since the incident? or 4 years since the start of covid? How long since covid 'ended' ? And are you making allowances for the botched management decisions that only set them further back? like the adventure river? or the ampitheatre? what about the stupid effort they wasted seeing if mine ride could be reopened? The last management made a lot of dumb decisions. The current management are being sensible - and you aren't. Well, they did get down to 0.18 in March of 2020, and that was when they owned Main Event - so congratulations on more than doubling your share price AND getting an additional 94c per share payout! No, google doesn't show me back that far. Do you know how much they were right before covid? (spoiler - $1.63 January 2020) And $1.41 right before they sold main event and paid you out. See you want to point at how much money you lost in 2016. What you're not taking into account at that point is that your shares were worth so much because the management at the time were prioritising profits over safety and human life. They had engineering reports in their hands, and historic records of multiple incidents that occurred almost in the exact same way as October 2016 - and despite all that, they were actually petitioning the government for less regulation and more self inspections because they were such a safe operation. The inquest uncovered just how poorly that place was run, so when you complain about how much the share price has dropped since the incident, what you're actually saying is you'd rather kill people for profit. All your whining about how they're running the park makes so much more sense now.

Perhaps just a short memory. They've had limited hours in their "off peak" times for quite some time. If I were a theme park social media employee, i'd tell you to 'make sure you check the website before visiting!' https://www.parkz.com.au/forums/topic/8514-dreamworld-reduces-operating-hours/?do=findComment&comment=169206

I disagree. They've put it in a holding pattern and are concentrating on their flagship operation before distracting themselves with other factors. He did say that - With some authority I would suggest, given he held executive level responsibilities for both WNW GC and Sydney, as well as the foreign waterparks for a period of time. I've not seen anything in his history that suggests he doesn't know how to successfully run a water park. You can't give someone the keys and let them have at it. Their desires and ideas are going to be competing with the desires and ideas over at Dreamworld for the same capital to implement them. You're taking a very small bucket of money and tipping it into two even smaller buckets. If they succeed over at Dreamworld, there's going to be many buckets to share with the waterpark. if they fail, the waterpark is dead too. But nobody is going to be building this company up with waterslides. If you need to run a theme park group, you call a guy who knows how to run theme park groups and you let him run the theme park group. You don't go on a forum and tell him how to run it. *mic drop*

Dreamworld has had a waterpark as far back as 1983. Back then they ran seasonally as well, albeit without a separate gate and ticketing. The two gates have always operated similarly to how they do today, albeit a return to seasonal operations. You really seem like you have a bee in your bonnet about this. Greg's words are quite telling "balance in what they can economically do" and we can all bang on the table and demand they open 7 days a week, or employ another CEO to run the water park, or build new attractions at the same time as the dry park (village has historically cycled new attractions to its three parks and rarely opens new attractions in multiple parks at the same time either) but if they do all that and go broke before it's financially sustainable to do then its all gone and turned into housing development.

I mean you're both mis-reading the statement "another reason to not renew my pass" which suggests there are already other reasons contributing to the decision. In that lens, possibly reasonable. I stand by my view that the key holders received the value that they paid for, although not everything was promised, they haven't been ripped off or under-delivered on. It was a nice concept with a very flawed delivery and the company cannibalised its potential customers by having the paid TikTok program provide far more benefits with far less formality. At this point the only thing that interests me at Village is WOZ, and that isn't enough for me to consider purchasing a new OnePass (even with a shiny Oz coin and beating the price rise). We called for years for them to lift the prices because they were giving away the gate and capacity was terrible. It seems though that the thousands of cheap passes weren't the issue - it was the park's poor capacity, as we continue to see long queue times and poor experiences despite many people saying they no longer visit. For the past 15 years, i've held passes to both parks, renewed them annually when the time came, often not visiting for months at a time, but renewing was cheap enough that it didn't bother me if I only got there a few times a year. I happily let my membership renew with Village and didn't even use most of the night event tickets that were included with it some years (especially the years we had a young kid). Village have systematically alienated our family - long queues, poor service, high prices and ever increasing upcharges and i'm just done.

In the Dane Podcast, CEO Greg Yong confirmed that WWW is absolutely crucial, and that they have many ideas on what their next step is - "it will get it's due attention in a little while" but "need to find a balance in what they can economically do" so they are prioritising "where they can deliver the most value".

Greg Yong confirmed in a podcast that the cars will not be electric. Although planned to be originally, he mentioned after riding an *unnamed* ride in Singapore, they didn't like the experience and preferred petrol engines to the new electric tech he observed in Singapore. He also said that the cars currently running around on track are not the finished product (though the disability accessible vehicles will be electric). All the petrol engines have been rebuilt. Additionally, he confirmed that EarthStory (the infamous AI folk) were told what the concept was to be, and the coaster was purchased already. So fair to say that the theme was not borne out of the AI concepts - it was just visualising what they'd been briefed. He was asked about Motocoaster. He confirmed they're not ready to do (or talk) about anything yet, but that it is on their minds. He did say it makes sense to integrate it into Rivertown, "in time", but ensuring the park has a sustainable future is a priority, so not yet.

I love that @Habitat Waterford is still such a meme here.

Did you forget to add something to your post?

Come on man, he said the TREE gets dragged out in December. This story isn't due for a bump for another year.