DaptoFunlandGuy

Now before you all go getting huffed about a new coaster coming to the Six.. this is actually a defunct derelict coaster. I want to try and figure out where it comes from. There was a TV show on last night on the Discovery Channel called Junkyard Wars. The show stars both American and British people, but i'm pretty sure its based in America. Basic description of the show, they're given a Junkyard and a task, and they have to build something to do the task from crap in a junkheap. This episode last night, the guys needed to build a boat. the teams couldn't really find anything to suit, but one of the teams, (the blue team) came across a worn and weathered old roller coaster body. This is what I want to find out - what the coaster train used to be on - what ride is it from? Heres the info I have - The front of the train was red, with a six flags logo on its nose. It has blue and white pin striping, with white stars running down the blue stripe. The train itself looked like your typical steel looper - it would have looked like it belonged on either demon or corkscrew, or cyclone even. Its second car was painted blue, with a red stripe with white stars etc etc... all the way down the train, redblueredblue.. standard ratchet OTSR's, although the seat padding and OTSR's themselves were missing, as was the undercarriage... just a plain old stock train fibreglass shell... Can anyone identify it?

Hey Guys, Just going through some old posters and stuff here, i've always beleived wonderland opened on december 3rd, 1985. When Paul released his latest video, I thought it was wrong, because it said December 7th. I have just reviewed the Audition Call Poster from July 1985, which shows the parks entire operating calendar from August 1985 (auditions) to October 1985 (dry run and audition days) and its operation days are listed thus: November 1985 - 2,9,16,17,23,24,30 December 1985 - 1,5,7,8, and then the 14th december through to February 1st, when it then went back into weekend only operation until the may 1986 holidays, where it operated from the 2nd of may to the 18th of may, before closing for the off season. Does anyone have any further information on this, because as it stands, it seems the park's first operation day was November 2nd, not December 7th or 3rd...?

Good stuff paul. very well put together, although its a shame you had to use so many still shots. I knew the wonderland song was coming at the end of it but it still made me a little nostalgic. it has been worth the wait and I dont think that the 8mB version is anything to sneer at. the quality isnt crystal but its good enough. Anyways mate, good stuff, well done, and many thanks for your time and effort.

Of course... the ONLY little guy in Australian Politics... Little Johnny Howard... although I think Michael Caine's comments about him being a tripod are a little overzealous...

Neb, I believe Joz had a fullstop in between those two sentences. one was a statement, the other was a question. I think it would be a bit crazy for WBMW to shut down their biggest attraction in order to build a bigger one. it would be like cutting off your ear so you could wear headphones.... I would say the question about lethal would probably be to point out, that AFTER lethal has completed its latest rehabmaintenance, then it could be all maintenance hands on deck to assist in the construction of the new ride, as it would be ridiculous to divide your workforce in half, one repairing, the other constructing... best to have all hands on deck for both jobs.

no paul that height is bang on target. remember that in goldrush, hawk was surrounded by a lot of other things, that dwarfed it, including trees, as well as buildings and structures nearby which minimised the apparent height. hawk's current location is a vacant lot with very little other than other tall towers, which, in that pic, doesnt really show..

Joz, your warner village crowd control methods are not likely to work here. I might suggest the approach of the Rural Fire Service in a non-threatening bush fire... Stand back, let it burn until there is no more fuel left, and it dies out on its own... Just waiting for the fuel to be banned... i mean... burned... I must admit though this is the longest absence I have ever seen Richard take from the forums... He shoulda stepped in HOURS ago...

Well don't let the ICMP hit you on the way out. Honestly, I welcome new members to the forums with open arms but quite seriously, I fail to understand how you can be so immature about something, and get poopy and resort to petty name calling when you are put in your place. Im not sad to see you go, quite honestly, but you should realise that we are not out there to get rid of you, to make you feel uncomfortable like you have to leave.. this site is for everyone, provided everyone can interact harmoniously. All the other members of the site are trying to do is point out that you have made a wrong, and try to assist you to correct it. But when you get your backs up over being corrected, thats where they get annoyed with you, and just want you to bugger off. Im not that old myself, but If I got corrected when i was younger, I learnt from it, I didnt backbite my arse off at the person who was trying to help. pre-teens these days... ugh *shudder*

Steve$, your most recent post adds nothing meaningful to this discussion. I perceive this post as an attempt to poke fun at Joz, a well respected, and connected member of our community. As I have stated in the Site Issues forum, would you kindly read the community guidelines and follow them. Im going out on a limb here to say that I preferred Nightshifter to yourself, or AUSNRL. At least he had the common decency to at least attempt to follow the guidelines.. and while his posts were not always meaningful, he at least gave a detailed explaination of what his point was (when, and if he ever had one). now rack off. I'd rather remove navel lint for a living than continue to be plagued by your posts of drivel and nonsense.

Ok since the question was asked as to why they closed it, there arewere several possible reasons, that could have (but isn't limited to) included the following: Their reasons in the press release were correct, and it was too big, although given the truthfullness of the other press releases we have seen, thats not likely. Their plans to expand the Australian wildlife park to include exotic and foreign animals, to create a zoo needed the land (Stephen Galbraith said as much in an internal staff function) They could have needed to relocate the entry driveway to the park directly off the M4, as they had a large industrial buyer that wanted to buy the land currently occupied by their driveway at the time. They wanted to tear up LWL, and remodel it as a "marvel" themed land, which would require its closure for several months. I can come up with many explainations. the one it their press release was a crock, but the making way for a zoo is an option tossed around by Stephen Galbraith often during my employ there around 2002. Bottom line is nothing was done because Sunway was gearing up to sell it anyway.

and see theres a prime example of a tourist attraction, in the MIDDLE of the Western Suburbs, even IN suburbia itself, rather than outcast on a lot miles from a housing development.... and its still thriving!

Featherdale Wildlife Park - Doonside USELESS where do you think all the tourists headed for the mountains, that used to stop at wonderland go now? Parklea Markets - Parklea NOT A TOURIST ATTRACTION Personally, when i travel overseas, i do a lot of my shopping, and gift buying at the markets in the area, as you get some great bargains. Parklea is as much a tourist attraction as paddys markets in the city. Penrith Whitewater - Penrith GOVT OWNED, HUGE LOSS MAKER i can promise you with the exception of the homebush precinct, Penrith Whitewater MAKES more money than any other venue created for the olympics. Olympic Rowing and Regatta Centre - Penrith FAIR ENOUGH how can you say this is fair enough? it doesnt charge admission except on regatta days. it makes less money than whitewater, and costs loads more to maintain. how is this fair enough, if whitewater is a huge loss maker? Olympic Sites (multiple) - Blacktown City LOST $1.6m LAST YEAR ALONE - MASSIVE WHITE ELEPHANT nobody said that at the olympics. i seem to remember something about best games ever. but besides that Zordy, government owned properties are not meant to make money... thats what taxes are for.l Warragamba Dam - Warragamba CLOSED SINCE 2002, UNLIKELY EVER TO REOPEN DUE TO TERRORISM FEARS i severely doubt that. Warragamba has been undergoing huge construction to put in a new slipway, as well as numerous other improvements in the structure itself. it will reopen when the engineers are happy for it to reopen. Vicary's Winery - Mulgoa Area RESTRICTED HOURS depends on your definition of restricted hours... by my definition, wonderland had restricted hours... Vicary's Woolshed - Mulgoa Area RESTRICTED HOURS Ditto Mean Fiddler and Woolshed - Kellyville ITS A PUB NOT A TOURIST ATTRACTION the woolshed itself is still a target for tourists to experience a dinner show

my point exactly.... somebody call Guinness World Records or Ripley's.... Bus and I concur on something!

Thing is bus, it never used to be like that. So - parramatta to the base of the blue mountains - heres a list of current or previous attractions within that region. In compiling this list, I didnt actually touch parramatta, which also has a number of fine tourist attractions as well.... Mt Druitt Waterworks - Mt Druitt {Closed} Formula 1 Street Racing Track - Mt Druitt (it was there... look it up){Closed} Cables Waterski Park - Penrith {Closed} Wonderland Sydney - Eastern Creek {Closed} Featherdale Wildlife Park - Doonside Parklea Markets - Parklea Penrith Whitewater - Penrith Olympic Rowing and Regatta Centre - Penrith Olympic Sites (multiple) - Blacktown City Warragamba Dam - Warragamba Many, Many, MANY Historical Sites, such as Mulgoa Homestead, Pugh's Lagoon, Countless sites within the RichmondWindsor (Macquarie Towns) District. Vicary's Winery - Mulgoa Area Vicary's Woolshed - Mulgoa Area Mean Fiddler and Woolshed - Kellyville Nepean Gorge - bushwalks and hikes - Nepean Valley Joan Sutherland Performing Arts Centre - Penrith Panthers (hey many tourists come to stay and play there) - Penrith And ok - so I my results are a little more biased towards penrith but thats because i live there... i came up with this list in 3 minutes, and im sure theres plenty more out there that would bring the tourists in. i've said it before and i'll say it again, IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME No, im not really a staunch labor supporter, and I believe John Howard has done his bit for our country, albeit sucking on the USA's teat. My comment was simply directed at the staunch Liberal supporter, who seemed to be campaigning for PM in 2006...

In keeping with the original scope of this forum, here is some more information. When the park was originally set up, the american influence reigned (from King's) in the setting up of the radio system. Call signs, and codes were used, so that anyone capable of picking up wonderland's system (which wasn't too hard - no crystal tone lockouts were used) would not be as easily interpreted. each department had an allocation of radios that it would use, each radio numbered, and each number was delegated a certain task. retail for instance had a radio for their management team, however frequently radios would be given to games or outlet operators in locations without a phone or isolated from assistance. The retail team had 3 digit codes for their radios, which all started with a 4. Im sure Bus could tell us what codes attractions used as well. Security had their codes for a while but later changed it to a simple S1, S2, S3 approach...Attractions management team had one each, and radios were allocated to certain rides that for one reason or another required one - again mainly those without phones (the phone system was a joke there) ok so as far as the codes, firstly was the usual "10" codes, so overused by american police tv shows, and still in frequent use by the american police forces (although the list for the police is somewhat larger in size) such as 10.4 - message received and understood 10.20 - what is your location? 10.21 - please telephone this location 10.8 - ready and in service (mainly for games, outlet and food and beverage locations, to be reported prior to opening to make sure security didnt let guests into merchandise areas until a cast member was attending it.) 10.9 - please repeat last transmission 10.12 - guests can hear this radio, please be discrete 10.17 - a request for coins and change - food and beverage, retail and games, and front gates would make this request of their supervisor, who would relay this request to cash control, who would prepare the change required, and despatch with security or a team of supervisors. 10.22 - Disregard last transmission 10.23 - Standby 10.33 - Alarm Sounding - generally not used, except by security at night 10.53 - Person down - mainly used by security, and meant anything from illness, heatstroke etc to serious injury there was also an 11 code - 11.71 which indicated a fire or fire alarm in the area Then there were the codes which were used early in the park's life, but were later discarded. Code 1 Do so at your convenience. Code 2 Urgent. Code 4 No further assistance is needed. Code 6 Responding from a long distance. (eg, if the person was in HBL, and was needed in Goldrush) Code 7 meant that the person was going to lunch, and their usual radio calls etc should be directed to a different person, which was usually either transmitted in the same message, or prearranged on a list in security. Security also had the following codes Code 3 Emergency/lights and siren. Code 10 Bomb threat Attractions had their own codes, which were reported to Ride Supervisors and Security Six-One-Alpha - the ride is in normal operation - used mainly at the start of the day, but also after the ride has recovered from a downtime mid-operation, or during a ride-rotation Six-One-Bravo - somebody chucked.... basically a guest experiencing an illness on the ride that affected the operation of the ride itself. Six-One-Charlie - the ride is not operating due to mechanical failure. Six-One-Delta - the ride is not operating due to severe weather approachingaffecting the operation of the ride. OperationsRides frequently shortened these to just alpha-bravo-charlie and delta, and in my time at Wonderland, I only ever saw one instance where Delta went parkwide. We had a severe thunderstorm approaching, heaps of lighting, high winds, pouring, driving rain, and one after the other the calls came in from individual rides such as probe and beast that the operator was taking the ride down "Delta" due to winds. Not long after that the winds had gotten higher, and the storm came closer, and over the radio came a call from security to "Six-One-Delta all operating attractions immediately". Man that place was even more of a ghost town during that storm than I had ever seen it before... and thats saying something. Ok guys.. .come on - stop getting sidetracked, and lets get more info on WL - make this the definitive collection on all things WL....

looks like Flea's period is due.... lol man i nearly wet myself when i read that. Im thinking "hang on, this isn't like liam.." before i clicked. lol. funny stuff man.

hate to break it to you Dr Teeth, but Thunderbolt was ripped apart piece by piece. besides, it is a steel coaster, not a woodie. you put a wrecking ball or a bulldozer through that structure and you are gunna have a lot of wood flying every which way, not to mention a big a$$ mess when you're finished. Also, the structure, while capable of free standing, is held in place by two very large sets of support cables, concreted and anchored to the ground. if these were disconnected, without careful dismantling, the ride could possibly topple over onto people standing nearby. leave them connected and bulldoze it, and you're going to have 10 odd metre long cables whipping around in every direction. all in all not a good idea. I dont think they will bother to take out every bolt and nail, but rather remove segments small enough to be manhandled out of the way. most likely would be to remove all of the track rails, and then chainsaw it out, section by section, in manageable pieces that could be loaded, in an ORDERLY fashion onto a truck for dumping. Lets not forget the wood, however old, is treated with arsenic, and sending splinters flying off everywhere is not in the interests of health. No. the majority of the demolition will be done by removing it piece by piece.

ausnrl - do a search in the dreamworld and the movieworld forums, and im sure you will find HEAPS of threads and posts giving you the information you are after.

the demon track was more of a gloss wasn't it? but yes, how many steel rollercoasters, painted black have been torn down to be transported overseas recently? It seems a little strange, but i suppose a lot of the elements would be difficult to fit inside a shipping container, so i suppose its possible...

i dont believe Jamberoo has the local population to substantiate any expansion of that scale. Having said that, running along the theme of if you build it they will come, i'd be interested to see jamberoo throw in a mega coaster that runs down the same mountain the toboggans run on... they do have the land, its just a matter of whether the area could sustain a park any larger than it is now...

i took one look at this thread, and thought it must have been revived from months ago... NOPE! its ANOTHER new thread on which is better.... come on guys... throw some originality in the gene pool... rather than debating the same topics over and over again. Ive been watching the dreamworld forum since new years eve, marvelling at the fact that nobody had posted in days, which was hilariously funny for me, being that the DW forum is usually the busiest forum on the site... and the first post to come back to dreamworld is this sorry excuse for a "new thread"

Richard has just posted an image gallery that might better explain it, although the image that you guys would be interested in is a little obscure - http://www.parkz.com.au/forums/sh...read.php?t=1505 View the Gallery HERE: http://www.roller-coaster.com.au/gallery.php?gid=130

Hey Rich, was this a formal "you may come in and take photos" shoot or a sneaky over the fence style shoot? Im curious to know whether you have any photos from INSIDE the warehouse area where the laser light show happens.... i'd like to see that in daylight...

Zordy, I agree with you but i think goulburn is a bit tooooooo far. Possible Theme Park sites within the Sydney basin could include: DuralCastle Hill Areas - lord knows they need a better public transport system out there the Hawkesbury - Clarendon show grounds, the potential RAAF base closure (a rumor, but possible) would leave a gaping hole in the hawkesbury's economy, as well as its land. The Cumberland Plains - ADI site - yes, there are huge protests about it, but would the resident's action group prefer a residential metropolis, or a theme park where huge areas of bushland could be preserved? Mulgoa, Campbelltown, Holsworthy, Blacktown, the new proposed housing development in bringelly... these are just some of the areas WITHIN the sydney basin that have the room, and the need for a large enterprise such as a theme park, without needing to build RIGHT on the beach, or 2 hours drive from the southern suburbs.... OR the northern ones for that matter...

when information is posted on this site, i watch for descrepancies, or coincidences. i've seen way too many people BS their way into starting a rumor. While for the most part Kenny's information is reliable, its generally about dreamworld, not movie world. I spotted a pure coincidence, from a source who usually provides information about a DIFFERENT park, and I questioned it. When he reposted, I found a further descrepancy, so i questioned it further. Kenny is no Shifty, but thats how it sounded to me. i questioned it... simple.