DaptoFunlandGuy

They seem to have dropped the 'Jungle' aspect of her name in all the recent marketing around it though - are you sure they're still sticking with Jungle Jane?

Going with just "Jane's Rivertown Restaurant" doesn't have quite the same ring to it. (Also, is it "Jane's Rivertown Restaurant" ? or is it Jane Rivertown's restaurant? I've seen both used, and if they're giving Jane the last name 'Rivertown'... even more cringe.

I'm hoping they've given it more than a naming twist - the prominent 'boat bar' and the wording here: When I read this, my first thought was Trader Sam's Enchanted Tiki bar. If they can incorporate some A\V elements and \ or some specialty themed cocktails, it won't just be a place to eat, it will truly be a repeatable experience you'd keep coming back to. I do hope this place pays off and succeeds. It'd be a delicious demonstration to Village that you can operate a full sit-down restaurant in a gold coast theme park. (I'm looking at you Rick's Cafe, Stars Cafe and various long-closed Sea World options, and yes I know they've been talking about reopening Stars cafe recently but it's been getting on in years...)

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No Running what?... No running waterslides?

Honestly I think a cableway and a wheel would be the perfect fit for the park. Surely the technology we have today handles wind better than the old system we used to have? I wouldn't have thought the wind on the GC was much different to say - Ngong Ping (Lantau, Hong Kong) or Mount Faber (Sentosa, Singapore) and they're massive.

Just for clarity's sake, the report said it was to be funded in FY25 - which is the FY we are currently in.

technically the train, depending on how much of a purist you are. Model T's technically still exist. I'm not sure if Carousel and Bumper Cars are the same hardware, though naturally they're in a different location. And of course Thunderbolt's station still stands, though not really an answer to your question.

Judging by this comment above, i'd say the removal of the train is not indicative that they had made a decision to close the attraction at the time.

Well you know what they say about fools and incomplete jobs. I'd like to think that i've got a little more cred, but you can take it how you like it. yeah i'm not convinced but the proof will be in the pudding.

short answer is.... it's still coming.

I say the same thing about most of what you post, but that in itself is an opinion, isn't it? If I had experienced any of the mazes in previous years, sure - but I haven't been in any of them, nor do I have plans to go this year, so my opinion is not based on having already done the mazes or not. And i'm still entitled to the opinion whether I attend the event or not or whether you think so or not. And what I said was - I had heard they're putting the funds into other elements of the event. So costs have not been cut, they've been reallocated. It's also bold of you to claim that they've got everything in the shed when you haven't seen the full event lineup yet. Despite all of this, and at the risk of sounding like a broken record - I honestly hope this bites them. I hope that no new mazes sees lower interest in the event and it hurts them in the hip pocket so that they learn a lesson. I'd love for that lesson to be felt more broadly across the company rather than being limited to this specific event only - it's a lesson that's long been overdue in coming. But as I said - I'd heard they were investing in other parts of the event - and if that is the case then I give them a pass on the mazes - they obviously have confidence that the same mazes will be popular - or they're going to learn an expensive lesson. If there is no marked improvement in the other parts of the event and the same mazes then the pass doesn't apply.

I think Bikash may have suggested that they've got options they're considering in the comments on one of the social posts. not sure how much substance that has, but at least someone in the company is saying something is being considered.

Sorry can you post for me where it says that in the rules? It's a discussion, and my opinion in this discussion is i'm giving them a pass on the lack of maze spend because their effort is being put in elsewhere this year. Now where did I say they've reduced spending on the event? Now who has things back to front? To repeat and expand, from what i've heard, the effort is going into other elements of the event instead of spending it on a new IP. They are also building 3 new rollercoasters, which may play a factor in their budget positions also - but i've not heard nor suggested that they have a smaller FN budget this year Oh i'm aware of this. However that doesn't give them a pass for a lacklustre effort in putting the event on - they have to reinvest in things and keep standards up or people are going to demand refunds, splatter them all over the press, etc... If they drop standards and expect people to keep coming, they're going to lose eventually - as I mentioned previously:

Gotham City Cafe is no more on Main Street than Dirty Harry Bar or Scooby Doo. No I didn't. What I did notice is that the closest 'all season' operating food outlet (Dirty Harry Bar) is 162m from RB Outfitters, and there isn't another retail store for 212m (HWSD main st store) After you pass the skill games, outside of peak season you're walking past nothing for more than 100m to get to west. Now just to put that distance into perspective - 100 metres is approximately: the entire length of the main street roof, from daily planet to the WB department store including multiple food outlets, retail shops, entrance to an arena show and a cinema attraction. From the fountain of stars to the entrance for the Land of Oz (past two other attractions) From the fountain of stars to the entrance for DC Rivals (past 3 other attractions) From the daily planet to the carousel (past several retail outlets and a sometimes operating restaurant For the most part, the length of the carpark (measured gate to exit road direction) My point is the western area past the skill games is mostly dead space. In peak season west burgers and the small food outlet open up, but that's still a solid 70 metres of absolutely nothing. They need something in that space - even a waterwheel being fed from an overhead "watertrough" would give the area some kinetics or beauty to admire as you make the trek back there. The whole area feels abandoned (and not in a 'it's themed this way' kinda way). The area worked when Boot Hill was beside Scooby. Blazing saddles -albeit a little cheesy - formed part of the land and there was a level of cohesiveness to the whole thing. As an area, you had an arcade, a 'rest area', at least two food outlets, entrance to a stage show - and much as I hate to say it - the timeshare people. Doomsday took away the arcade, the rest area, the stage show entrance.. the timeshare people left (thankfully) and the food outlets rarely open outside of peak - and so we're left with.... not much. As for Scooby - it's closed, and has been for some time. In winter there is no reason to turn left at the top of main street, so you might as well consider it gone, until it comes back. I'm not suggesting the same will happen - but I still keep in the back of my mind the fact that two years ago the COO of the company assured us Monorail wasn't going anywhere and now we have a big VC announcing just that. I've every confidence Scooby is coming back up next year, but until it opens, there's always the possibility it doesn't. Are you suggesting that I am not?

I didn't know there was a monorail track at Wild West Falls. He asked about track, not train. (And the answer is it'll go into building rubble \ concrete recycling) the other train is still parked at Mid station i believe, but that was the fate of the first one.

Do you know what a movie set is? This is at Universal Studios Hollywood: Do you know what is less than five metres to the right of it? The Psycho house. Do you know what's right around the corner? That's the plus side of a 'movie park' - everything is a film set, so nothing has to be real. it's only "what the camera sees" in the shot. You're going "behind the scenes!" There is nowhere in this area that you can fit a restaurant. So, no batman store? No looney tunes store? Does Rick's Cafe get to stay, given it's themed to a specific movie? This area is already pretty authentically themed - with the film set lights overhead, and sets from Dirty Harry to Gotham to Spooky Island. The doomsday area has got to go and it will in time, but the games aren't likely to go while they're still making money. I think labelling this whole area up to hollywood is overly restrictive if they want to try doing something else with it, and the whole 'backlot film set' theme they've got through most of the park works well enough. Wild west is largely underutilised and takes up way too much space for a single attraction. Western town needs life - a themed retail store, midway or some other activity CLOSER to the ride would bring the area to life and make it useful again.

We know the mazes are mostly left in place from year to year, so the cost of re-running an established maze is close to nil. even a non-ip maze requires concept, development, construction, etc. it's cheaper to rerun the same thing, obviously. Nope.

I appreciate your speculative approach and while your other theories aren't far off being plausible, this particular one is flat out insane. The First Aid gates have no overhead restriction and are double wide to accommodate floats. The western town gates are not much bigger than your average residential garage door (albeit a little bit higher). It's also an awkward turnaround to get to doomsday - and if they're taking the "easy" path - big gates allow all sizes of vehicles through, but potentially losing access to what - a few skill games? they could temporarily set them up in tents in Main Street if the revenue loss was a big deal - it's far easier to do that than to bring them in the western gate. Looking at this street view though poses another possibility... Besides West, what else is behind the west sign? SHOWCASE. What if whatever they're doing in Showcase requires vehicle access that is too large for the western gates?

You are allowed to have an opinion - just as I am. You stated that "They (Sea World) ended their thrill era in the mid 2010s" and the demolition of Sea Viper is when it "died" (though notably you didn't state it as opinion at that time, you stated it as if it were fact). I disagreed and offered support for my position. End of story. As for whether SW will install an inverting coaster in the next few years, probably not, and that was not Spotty's position either - there were several attractions he suggested needed to come first, and then a coaster, possibly with inversions. All of those are good suggestions, and they are all possible. However, I find the suggestion that inversions don't fit the park preposterous, and the argument that inversions belong in MW because the park doesn't have many inversions (when SW currently has none) even more preposterous. Have a good weekend. There is no doubt that Movie World's lineup for kids is in dire need of an upgrade, but they don't need to give over more space to kids attractions - they need to improve the current offering. They still have an opening day attraction operating more than 30 years later, and much of what is on offer is poor, old, tired, and not suited to a wider audience. Retire the cages, the train, speedy cars and the Taz rest stop space (parents room \ sensory space needs a better facility in a better location anyway) and redo the entire land with new, themed attractions. And at the risk of sounding like a broken record - the park needs to sort out their maintenance and storage requirements to a better, new facility and give back the other half of the LTRR showstage building. Doomsday and the Western Showstage need something new - preferably the stage returns to being used as one, and Doomsday can be repurposed into a new family or adult level flat ride (or several flat rides depending on the size). I think it's a difficult argument to say a land made up of 3 coasters - even 3 targeted at families - is a kids land - i think wicked witches and flying monkeys and tornadoes aren't going to appeal to the same demographic that are riding sam train and tweety cages and WOZ skews older, but I still agree, WB Kids needs a refresh rather than taking over another area for another kids attraction.

Just on this point - they don't normally have updated imagery until they've finished interviews and done their TVC shoots and such - we haven't heard calls for any of that yet, so there may be updated images and TVC spots once this year's crew are onboard. From what i've heard, mazes are largely unchanged, but the effort is going into other elements of the event. Considering they're in the midst of constructing 3 new rollercoasters and an entirely immersive themed land, i'm gonna cut them a break on a big IP maze spend this year. I've been saying for years now that people are complaining about the standards dropping, but still paying money to go - the problem is as long as the money keeps rolling in, they're not going to stop cutting the standards because those who are paying them are still sending the strongest message that it's ok by giving them your money. If you don't like what you've seen - don't buy a ticket. don't go. A drop in ticket sales is the only thing that they're going to notice.

I don't remember that being the reason for road runner, but I doubt it - West had a sign change around the same time as road runner, and it was converted to the 2D signwriter's (digital printer) steel. If the insurance issue were raised, they'd have done away with it at the same time.

Ok, let me use colours (we're not American). You noted Jet Rescue was potentially closed for one of the spooky nights dates. That is tangential but relevant to the topic. How did that transition into the number of days Leviathan is closed for, when leviathan doesn't impact spooky nights event dates, and what relevance does Leviathan have to the spooky night topic?

it's possible, but it is bordered by the toilet block and the outlet, not sure what there is to gain there.

I've got a few theories from the boring and mundane to the wild and fantastical. it all boils down to one of two reasons - either: the wooden poles the sign was mounted on were end of life in some way and they didn't want to replace them (they've stood for over a quarter of a century - but wooden utility poles should be expected to last 40-50 years), or they needed vehicle access. However given the gates in western town just behind the sign, if that's the reason, i'm wondering why they didn't go through there?