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Originally taken from Screamscape (www.screamscape.com) http://www.ridercam.de/ I'd love to see this technology come down under... imagine fitting this baby to say lethal, or superman?

UT OH...... Adam... you shouldn't have said that. I would suggest you run and hide somewhere before Bussy reads that or you will regret you ever posted here... lol. But Seriously Adam, whether its just being unclear or incompetent, your arguments are heavily flawed. Many people would dispute that the Gremlins Adventure was Disney Standard. As far as your argument that they keep getting close, and its only a matter of time, take Coca Cola, and Pepsi-Co. Pepsi-Co has strived for years to make a product that equals Coke. They still haven't and probably never will. on the same tangent, take a vacuum cleaner - Many companies release new fangled technology in vacuum cleaners all the time, but for many, Hoover is still number one - in the united kingdom, they dont vacuum their carpet, they hoover it. lets keep going - Holden have the Clubsport, the Commodore Executive and the Calais. there is no dispute that they are fantastic cars, but they are not a Lamborghini or a Ferrari, a Mercedes or a BMW and they never will be. Panasonic and Sharp make great home entertainment appliances, but they will never be a Sony. To touch onto Rappa's Passion - there are many "intelligent" lighting companies out there, but nobody beats Martin. There are many soundcards out there in the world, but nothing beats Creative Labs. Have I made my point?

Zordmaker... like you needed to ask Daniel?

Funny, we see steel coasters that are 20 years old dropping like flies, yet woodies have been around for 40 and more years. Stating that a coaster is bad because its old is very stereotypical. Some people say a well constructed woodie gets better with age. The thrill of a woodie doesnt come from being turned upside down again and again, or being twisted around pulling insane lateral g's. A woodie gets its thrill from sheer size, the feeling of power and danger as the old wooden structure rattles and rolls underneath you. Any Rider of the Bush Beast in its last few years of life will have felt the structure shake while standing in the queue line. as you waited in the queue line, if you stood really still as the train approached the brake run, as the brakes gripped the train and brought it to a halt, the kinetic energy would make the entire station shift and shake. If you watched the Bush Beast from below the entrance, you would see the big fan curve shake and shimmy as the train went over it. A steel structure has no give. the rails themselves are designed not to move, and so the motion is always the same. if its bumpy, its always bumpy (except with new wheels) and if its smooth, it remains smooth, its all in the construction. A woodie can change on any given day because of the weather, the temperature or humidity. the wind, the age.... anything Most steel coasters have horsecollars. you're locked in and you're not going anywhere. airtime is reduced because you are pressed against your seat. With a woodie, with only lapbars holding you in, theres quite a few inches of movement that can allow you completely out of your seat on hillcrests, and throw you across into your partner's lap on tight turns. so yeah to sum it up, its the reckless danger that you feel in a woodie. in a steel coaster, you're locked in tighter than fort knox, it might twist and turn but you're not going anywhere...

you're telling ME not to post meaningless comments? PAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!! What you don't seem to understand here, is that everyone - Richard, Daniel, Bussy, Myself, Rabid, Joz.... EVERYONE on this site would LOVE to see Disney style stuff, or even DISNEY ITSELF in Australia, but we are realists who understand that for many reasons and constraints, one of which is agreed as money, it is not going to happen for a long time yet.

Hey Micka... hows the site coming along?

Well, having a look at theming on attractions such as Tower of Terror, Giant Drop and the like, yes, its quite possible that Disney are the only group of people in the world with an imagination and the ability to dream. Wrong again, will power and drive is just as important as money. Actually... yes it is. As numerous EXPERTS unlike yourself have stated on this forum, it will be a long time before anything in Australia can come close to Disney Standards. Scooby is admittedly the closest yet, but is somewhere on the universal level, and thats just a single attraction, not a whole park...

Well.... you can play baseball, and have athletic events at the blacktown olympic park.... what can you do with the bush beast? :evil: Bonfire?

No. A big imagination. As Scott said, its possible for another park to have just as much theming, but its the imagination that goes into a Disney park that sets it apart from the rest - hence - as we keep coming back to it - the IMAGINEERS

Adam, for christs sake stop digging up old posts to reply with meaningless drivel that has already been said! Thats Nebuchanezzar's job.... and he's very good at it.

Anything that falls under heritage order would need to be maintained by the governing body that granted the order, if no suitable caretakerowner were found. Therefore Blacktown Council would need to fork out to maintain the structure, if no suitable purchaser bought the ride.

Zordy, thanks for the double post and double quote.... real space saver.. Snowy would be considered a major ride, and as far as I am aware, the station house and pump house has been demolished... so that is one major ride not still standing (the troughs of course are still there.) Ruddegar, as far as I am aware, nothing has been removed since Christmas. I was on the site just prior to christmas, and the ride list is as follows: Still On Site: Bush Beast Beach Slides and Pools Snowy Troughs Bounty Jousting Ring (Circuit only) Space Probe Zodiac Beastie SkyRider Off Site: All other HBL or ex-HBL rides Demon Dragons Flight Wizards Fury (removed prior to close) Jousting Ring (dodgem cars themselves) Balloons Endeavour Taz Ampol's Antique Autos (AKA - The Great Race) was sold, however was yet to be removed at the time of my visit. Cheers, Alex.

Thats one thing I have always wondered about - the Movie Magic Queue Area lists the movies that have been shot on or around the studio, and it shows Fortress - I assume this is the Fortress with Christopher Lambert? What part of the movie was shot at WBMW?

To touch on what Richard has said and to answer another question as well, Other parks out there are not as good as Disney, and yet they ARE still in business - why? several reasons: 1) Disney cannot have a park in every state and territory of every country in the world. Its just not possible. Disney spends millions and millions on their parks are their rides. it would cost them a fortune to do, and the end result would be a loss in traffic to each park - because the travellers from interstate and international would just go to their own park. How many people would go to Disneyland, if we had a Disneyland in Australia? 2) Disney's culture is of "the most Wonderful Place on Earth". Its a kids fantasyland, fairy tales coming to life right in front of your eyes. Six Flags and Paramount and Universal and all the rest are there because they are delivering something that Disney doesn't deliver in its classic theme parks - whirling twirling spinning spewing duck and dive full-speed top fuelling Adrenalin Rush. Disney INVENTED the theme park. Until Disney came along, they were AMUSEMENT parks. rides with simple names, like "the big dipper" and "ferris wheel" and "giant drop". A Theme Park creates an illusion. its no longer the "giant drop" but the "Space Probe". It asks you to believe that this freefall tower, like every other freefall tower out there, is ACTUALLY an earth station transmitterreceiver for Ether Transmissions received from Deep Space. It then takes you inside, where a Seven.Net Reporter - Adam Walters reports to Seven.Net News Reader Ann Sanders that the transmission which caused the infiltration was an alien virus like organism of unknown origin... and so on and so on. Theme Parks are about taking an ordinary ride, like a boat flume, a wild mouse coaster, or freefaller, and creating a story, a look and a feel that gives a person the opportunity to suspend reality, and believe that this freefall tower is an inter-world probe. that this flume is a cruise boat on the hunt for bugs bunny, and that this wild mouse is in fact a space vehicle about to be launched from a space station and into the stars. Disney has 50 years experience over most other operators who wish to set out to copy their model. But like Richard said before - the one difference between a Warner Bros, a Universal, and a DISNEY attraction (besides money) is the Imagineers. I would like to see Warner Village build a ride, any ride (indoors) that they like, give the same ride and budget to a team of imagineers, and see the difference in the two. but thats in a dream world... oh well.

Again, something I have to disagree with. Big Brother has been out there overseas way before It came to Australia, but it still was not the first to coin the term. Your Survivors, (yes, even Survivor Australian Version) were around before big brother hit Australia. The term was coined from America, who have had Reality shows airing long before big brother was conceived.

Sorry Rabid, I have to disagree with you there. Bermuda has certainly been modelled on disney standard, but as Richard has said in the past, along with many others, Warner Village, and a lot of other well themed attractions are very good... even Universal good... But Disney is Disney and Nothing Compares. Bermuda is good, but I think through lack of maintenance, it has deteriorated. I never saw it when it opened (we came through in 1994 when it was being refurbed) but my first ride on it didnt impress me. the theming on it would probably have been an Australian first, but it still would not have come close to an Imagineer.

Joz, it was just the way it had been worded... like, "thanks for that, can you give me any examples?" it was a smart aleccy challenge. Anyway.... agreed... nuff said... on with the topic at hand...

Jesus Christ Adam.... give it up already. you are harping on the screens for the wrong reasons for crying out loud! And then you jump into a Dreamworld thread to try and have a go at me and Rich slaps it in your face! hahaha. I learnt very early in my time on these forums theres a time to shut up..... for yourself, now is that time.

The Big Brother Spooky Coaster maybe? Go twisting and winding through secret camera runs and come across an old pair of Sara-Maree's dirty drawers.... lol

Actually, there were many reality tv shows before big brother. big brother was one of the biggest hypes, and the most interactive with voting, live tv in channel ten's notorious nighttime deadspots, internet and the rest, but reality TV has been airing a lot longer than big brother - its just that big brother has one of the biggest budgets, gets the most airtimes, is in a publicly accessible place and shares its district with many other fine tourist attractions, so it gets the foot traffic because people go "well, while we're here, lets go and look at it...". As far as ratings, they are very fickle things that can be influenced by a lot of different factors. Back in the day, channel 9 used to air the lotto drawing at 5 minutes before the end of the show. it would get people on channel 9 for the 8.30 movie, and get them to switch off the 8pm and 7.30pm shows on other channels to get the lotto results. At one point, 9 was able to skew the results, by saying more people watched their 8pm to 8.30pm show than any other, only to have revealed later that they took their figures from those viewing at the end of the program, which of course, was when people all tuned in for the lotto numbers. I think Big Brother is seriously waning in popularity. While survivor, the Amazing Race and other similar shows continue to prosper, it is because we see constantly new surroundings time and time again. Big Brother is losing its steam as it climbs uphill, because once we see the first episode, we know how cool the house is. If they have any secrets to uncover (like the split house that became one when they removed the pool) then we can rest assured channel 10 will advertise the hell out of it, and tell us when its important to watch, and then, maybe, they get us to watch the evictions, where they recap every important thing that they showed on the daily shows anyway. The problem with the way Channel 10 are marketing Big Brother now, is they are giving it soooooooo much exposure, people are bored of it before it begins. As our effervescent Gretel Killeen points out at the end of every show (stop me if i am in any way wrong) SO we have the daily show at 7pm, Live House Footage every weekday night from 10.30pm Big Brother Uncut thursdays at 9.30pm Live Evictions every Sunday at 6.30pm Chats with the latest evicted housemate every monday at 8.30 with live nominations, and Don't miss seeing the housemate answer the same damn questions on the 2dayFM network monday morning, and then again tuesday night with rove mcmanus. And in case that wasn't already an overload of Big Brother for you :retch: you can log on to www.bigbrother.optusnet.telstra.vodafone.kfc.statravel.playstation.nokia.dreamwo rld.advertiseyourbusinesshere,phoneSteveon0433988988.com.org.au.net.gov.au or log on with your GPRS enabled phone to get all the latest big brother info sent directly to your mobile at www.bigbrothermobileportal.optusnet.telstra.vodafone.kfc.statravel.playstation.n okia.dreamworld.advertiseyourbusinesshere,phoneSteveon0433988988.com.org.au.net. g ov.au

Discovery Channel will be airing a program on their digital Discovery Science channel 646 on coasters on the 14th, 18th and 19th of February. check your guides! Its discrimination i tell you - having analogue sucks.

What I was saying there was that without theming, a simulator is justa hydraulic lift in the dark. it has to have theming and a story, or its pointless to have. Then learn some english. As I just said above, if the batman ride did not have the video screen in front of it, there would be absolutely no enjoyment in the ride. if i wanted something like that, I'd put myself inside a cardboard box, get someone to chuck me in the back of a semi trailer while they drive uncontrollably down the freeway... same experience.... 1) i have been on the ride 2) you doubt wrong 3) the idea that we are looking for scooby doo IS stupid and ridiculous, since we see him in the first 10 seconds of the ride. 4) the only reason we hear "Scooby Doo, Where Are You" all the way through the ride is because thats the bloody theme song that has been attached to the damn cartoon for the last 20 damn years. It is simply a ghoster coaster, themed to a particular movie, which happened to be very popular at the time of it's construction. There is no story, or the story would be introduced to us in an Ante-Room before we got to the station. ***Movie World employee rocks up "hey everyone come on in we have a special preview screening of the newest scooby doo movie (phone rings) oh, well it seems scooby doo has run away from the set again, lets go look for him*** (hmmm that seems a bit like another ride at Movie World.... wouldn't you say?) I would assume that real rock would be too heavy, and cumbersome to have cut to measure, and real wood would pose a fire hazard. I still think disney is light years ahead of anything we have here. Thanks for that, now don't do it again.

if a company chooses to go into voluntary administration, they are handing over the reigns of the company to a firm who specialises in asset management and cashflow control. this firm must ensure that all creditors are given equal share (to the value of the debt) of the sale of the company assets and equipment, and also to ensure that the employee's are given as much as possible of their entitlements at the same time. If NTG went into voluntary administration, there would have been a BIG noise about it.

Welcome The Worker, We appreciate every single piece of inside knowledge here on R-C.com.au, and have sources across the country that are deep into the industry. I dont want to discourage you from posting and visiting the site, but this information has been brought to our attention almost two months (or more i'm not sure) ago, and can be found in the news and forums of the site. keep an eye out on the forums, you might pick something up before the park actually tells you themselves!