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SW looks better in that ad than it does now.

Completely agree with you as the old saying goes 'if it bleeds it leads' ring true. These people aren't also theme park enthusiasts, or work in an industry with machinery that has the same protocols built in so they don't understand how it works. They are only like the GP at the moment, they see a ride stopped and immediately think along the lines of something bad has happened. Which IMO will only go away after time. In fact it seems like the media got the park on a good week in terms of not having more stoppages. But you won't hear them report on things like SDSC or JL because they're indoors and there's nothing to see. Imagine if SDSC was outside and how much footage we'd see of people walking down from the top of the ride. In fact there's an idea just enclose all their rides

I always wondered why if they have the same layout RRRC hits the breaks harder, I guess it doesn't lose as much speed as EFM does during the ride. I think theming does get taken into account with the ride making it better, imagine RRRC without the the ACME TNT on the roof, or passing through the rockwork on the road, I think it definitely wouldn't make it as interesting. The extra train on RRRC to help with capacity is great as well, it'd be nice if EFM had that too with the lap bar restraints, but I don't there's space on the ride for a maintenance bay like RRRC has?

I'm sure after time goes by and probably even after the holiday crowds dissipate the frequency of these events getting reported on will die down. I get the AA report, because that was one of the bigger breakdowns and the way they had to get off the ride makes for good imagery, even I liked seeing the images of how it was unfolding. However a ride stopping and then getting passengers off is ridiculous, I haven't spent a day at MW where there hasn't been a ride closed. In fact one day SDSC was down, then WWF was and this time I could see the boats stopped, then SDSC again. It happens, it means the system is working as it should. The only way we'll stop seeing these reports is time. I'm waiting for them to report on a SE rollback and speculating why DD has been closed for so long.

Roadrunner. However if EFM had better restraints like the new Vekoma trains I'd say EFM.

I think it's probably a combination of both. The rides loses speed almost as soon as it's off the launch, was built too high and has uncomfortable seats. That I put down to being a prototype. Roadrunner & Escape From Madagascar don't lose their speed as they hit the brakes, MDMC does, I think that's a bad design. However if DW had a bigger budget Intamin probably could have made the ride with more 'Wow', a second launch I think could have helped greatly. Still doesn't fix the uncomfortable restraints and slow loading process. Such problems seem to be ironed out by the time they got around to JR.

^ I don't know if I'd call it quick... Especially after that first launch. More like a meamble I think it comes down to MDMC was a prototype for Intamin and they stuffed up, whether it be becuase of budget constraints or whatever. They learnt from their mistakes with it and when it came to JR they nailed it.

1. Superman Escape 2. Arkham Asylum 3. Tower Of Terror II 4. Jet Rescue 5. Scooby-Doo Spooky Coaster 6. Storm Coaster 7. Green Lantern 8. Surfrider 9. Cyclone (Yet to experience it as Hot Wheels Sidewinder) 10. Roadrunner Roller Coaster 11. Escape From Madagascar 50. Mick Doohan Motocoaster ** Yet to experience Buzzsaw & Abyss

So it works a family ride and kids love it, sure. But ask those kids do they prefer it over SDSC, Roadrunner and Escape From Madagascar and I'd be interested to hear what they think.

^ And was even smoother as Corkscrew

I wouldn't use Daily Mail as a source and say it's better than Murdoch. I find it worse. They write articles just about what "celebrities" were wearing down the road and if they're walking with a work colleague or friend all of a sudden that person becomes a "mystery friend/lover".

MW: - Charlie & The Chocolate Factory (dark water ride) - Mad Max (RMC coaster), next to WWF so sort of the west flows into deserted wasteland. - Expanded LT area, with Omni mover, new kids, show area for LT show and rapids ride. (Of course pie in the sky thinking because you'd need to move a lot around to make that kind of room and we won't be seeing any rapids on the coast for some time now.) - I like Joz's idea for Animal Logic, but the nostalgia in me would love to see Hannah Barbera too. Scoring Doo is reportedly getting rebooted and WB are said to be looking at other HB franchises to reboot. - If the Vacation films hadn't bombed and they were making another I would have liked to have seen that become the new stunt show. DW: Keep the Gold Rush area, but make it more like how Dollywood is presented. - A dark ride - RMC - B&M Wing Coaster - And a Large family flume Plus, retrack some of MD, retheme and look at something like upping the power in the launch or creating a second launch like JR at SW. And create an interactive playground on the island.

I was so young, but vaguely remember the Serpent Show and had thought wasn't there a helicopter in it! Back then we also had PASS & I also vaguely remember a Joker show as part of the Studio Tour. I just wish the budget and creativity was there again. Well budget, because I'm sure there's some creative people there that could do amazing things given the freedom. With DW offering a night time event for the busy period with longer hours for free I think MW & SW should be upping their game. I mean the parks haven't changed their operating hours in years, but are busier than they ever have been. It's not a good look the tourists trying to fit in as much as they can in their day.

I know people were hoping MW's new coaster would be the best of 2017, depending on what else is out there I think we've found the winner for 2018...

^ Lot's of big movies out there, but I'm just saying the trend seems to be with comics at the moment both at the box office and in our theme parks.

The only thing really is even the movie studios are focusing on comics, it's clearly where the market is at the moment. Look at how many Marvel movies Disney is churning out, plus their TV network ABC has Agents Of S.H.I.E.LD, then all the shows the have on Netflix. While Warner Bros. is trying to get their DC comics to replicate what Marvel has been doing, not to mention TV Network The CW has 4 DC TV shows and Fox has one. And that's just what I can think of off the top of my head, its clearly the flavour of the month!

Yeah not really what I meant. I meant more in terms of the fact that Mack are starting to get a few customers for their Hyper's.

Apparently Land Of Legends in Turkey is getting a Flash clone.

Cya later Superman Escape then as well!

This is exactly the right comment and what should have been first posted. You don't like it, fine. But just because you don't doesn't mean it should go, that's why so many people will have downvoted it. Yes the ride holds nostalgic memories for many but it is currently doing so for a brand new generation because it does exactly what it's designed to for the park, provide that first thrill for children, be a ride the whole family goes on together and a ride for people who don't like high thrills. With BT gone it's the only ride left in the park that fits that bill because many people find SC too thrilling. Also replacing it with something more exciting. Like what exactly because I wouldn't expect the thrill level to be any higher than the fluke provides for the reasons already outlined. Plus as has been pointed out it's one of the busiest rides in the park, that's for a reason, same as to why SDSC is one of the busiest at MW. You don't like it, fine, but accept it fills an important gap the park desperately needs.

Very true, I actually thought exactly that, you imagine if they went with them again they'd be getting a good deal Plus their Spaceshot seems to have never given them problems before.

^ They don't, their rides have a good reputation. However VRTP had a MAJOR problem with one of them and had the potential to kill everyone on board that day if it had of gone over the edge with MW facing the same problem DW is right now. With the cause found to be the manufacture you'd think they'd be very pissed at them cautious to trust them again. Which is a shame because I would love to see some of their models making their way to Australia. One being an S&S Screamin' Swing, maybe the trick is to buy their tried and tested models, not prototypes.

Thanks for the info guys. I actually find talking about how many trains you could fit on and load/unload procedures really interesting.

I know its not on topic but I'm just interested, I'm guessing SE can't support 3 trains on the track due to it's block system. But could the ride have three trains, say if it's not busy one in operation and 2 on the transfer tracks, or is the holding bay not big enough and it always need to have 2 in operation with one in the holding bay? It would be good because you could keep 2 trains in operation while one train get's rebuilt and I've long championed a second train for AA! Hyper from what I've seen generally have more cars. So with this coaster I'm hoping for at least 6 cars with 3 trains, maybe even 4, because as Richard pointed out off peak is nearly gone now. That way the ride can always have 3 in operation with the 4th going through its rebuild.

They built Green Lantern for MW and we all know what happened back in March of 2015 on that ride. Something else I'd like to add is another family ride. Storm is a great replacement for Bermuda, but is more of a family thrill and therefore has turned away some of BT patronage. Half my family included. I think a true family ride is needed to balance that out. Also if you want to see a great new layout/expansion idea for SW take a look at what Joz did a couple of months back, it would be perfect for the park!