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You made a good point Wonderbus about driving on the highway, and no, I don’t think twice before I drive to Movie World. I also agree with you James about how it was purely Disneyland’s fault. Would anyone else here feel a little weird getting into a ride that has killed someone? Or is it just me. Well I guess they made the wrong decision. If they had shut down the entire ride as soon as they noticed something wrong (e.g. train making a funny sound), then this man would still be alive (providing he drove home safely). I am not saying that when the train crashed they should have pushed the emergency stop, this of course would be too late. I am saying as soon as they realised something irregular was occurring the ride should have closed. If the brakes on your car stopped working, would you keep driving and just tag the car to get fixed next time you feel like it? Again, someone died in this accident. Disney have taken the blame. If Disney were doing everything correctly, how could this man have died? Disney chooses who performs maintenance on this attraction, therefore, Disney were not following the correct procedures in hiring suitable maintenance staff. It’s a sad world if it takes someone to die on a ride before something is done. According to your statistics Alex, there is a greater chance of dying at Disneyland than Dreamworld. But if they hit the emergency stop as soon as they noticed an irregular occurrence (e.g. when the train was not sounding as it should) then would it still have crashed? I’m sure that if a train ever made that noise again (e.g. when coming back into the station). The emergency stop would be initiated in a number of seconds and the entire ride closed rather than “tagging” the train. Why did they not do this before the death? Disneyland are too blame - they even said it themselves. Otherwise, Big Thunder Mountain would be one of my favourite rides scott.

Alex, I respect your decision to fully educate yourself so you are eligible to answer (unlike the turntable thing) but someone died in this accident and Disneyland have claimed it to be their fault. That is an interesting statistic. Have they ever heard of emergency stop? Statistics are a funny thing. They can tell us what has happened in the past, but can only take a stab in the dark about what is to happen in the future. What are the odds of getting killed at Movie World? 0 out of (number of people to visit park)? But just because it’s zero doesn’t mean there is no chance of dying at Movie World. Dying at Disneyland, I’m sure, is an unlikely event. But the young man who boarded the Big Thunder Mountain railway on 5th September 2003 probably thought the same thing. I know there’s probably the same chance of dying on Scooby Doo as there is on Big Thunder Mountain but just the thought that someone has died on the ride you are about to go on, doesn’t give you a good feeling.

Alex you have hardly admitted your wrong. I ask a simple question directed at someone who has been on the ride, and then you make up some bull**** about how it must have two turntables, and yes, it annoys me Alex. You think you know everything. Can you please tell me how the second turntable on Wild West Falls relates to the reverse drop? Have you even been on the ride? Or is this just one of your obvious assumptions? Alex, what you need to do is stop and think about the question I was asking. I started the question with – “Hey Skipper,” – now although I may be going too fast for you, can you think of any reasons as to why I might start off with this? Could it be that I know for a fact that this individual has been on the ride? Could it mean that since he has been on the ride, he would know exactly how many turntables are on the ride? Although, I’m sure all of this was very obvious to you.

Yer, I agree. To be honest, I don't think the trains will have many carriages as its harder to deliver a story and special effects etc. to heaps of people. Most Disney adventure rides with lots of themeing and effects (e.g. Slpash Mountain, Indiana Jones etc) have single carriages. Does Big Thunder Mountain have animatronics and special effects?

I'm just surprised that the ride doesn't have two turntables; as logic would suggest it is impossible for them to use any other method to reverse a car. I mean, how could they reverse a car without a turntable? I'm still really confused. It's also confusing how I wasn't asking for a technical opinion but an observation from someone who has experienced the ride first hand. Although I suppose someone who hasn't been on the ride could have answered it too since it was so obvious. I mean, it would be hard to answer it incorrectly since it was really obvious! And while we are on the topic of research, you might want to look into Wild West Falls and Scooby Doo Spooky Coaster (at Movie World) which are both examples of rides that feature a reverse drop but use only one turntable to rotate the car. The Tower of Terror at Dreamworld also has a reverse drop and doesn't even have a turntable! What a world we live in

It seems the impossible is actually true. Revenge of the Mummy only has one turn table.

I am pretty sure the ride has only one turn table. Yet I am waiting for confirmation from Skippy, not you Alex, you have never even been there. Ever heard of transfer tracks? Vertical lifts? I suppose none of these are used in the roller coaster industry to change the direction of cars. There is nothing to suggest the cars perform a complete rotation twice Alex. Yet again you have overlooked something you think is "obvious". Ever driven into a car park, and reversed out of it Alex? That is another way you can go backwards without turning a car on a rotation station. I suppose Universal Studios spent millions on the magnetic linear induction motors that can move the cars in a forward and reverse direction for nothing? Yet again Alex, since this is all so obvious - you must be right. Alex, why exactly would you need two turn tables? Tell me, because I'd love to you know why. Alex, the question was not so obvious. You couldn't answer it. Your wrong.

Well then its not one of the active methods used to reverse trains. So they just inter-change track pieces?

How does the coaster move around the track? It looks like there is a lift hill on the track at the top, but how would passengers board?

Yer same here, Joz is never wrong. He knows.

Haha for someone who doesn't want to argue with people - you aren't doing a very good job Fatty. Don't worry about what everyone calls you. Daniel can call me anything but I don't care? I mean, its only Daniel No, it wasn't. You weren't the one that said - I don't want to get into fights. It must have been some other fool.

Albert, you don’t have to read the articles on Roller-coaster.com.au but Richard spends a lot of time and money to put togethers news, photos, videos etc. so I cannot see why you would make a remark like that. It was really unnecessary. News and stuff that gets posted in the forums gets archived and is out of sight very quickly – as opposed to a news articles which will stay on the homepage (and news page) for much longer. My annual pass expires end of September… that sucks. Thanks for the info joz and Richard.

Do you know of a multi-carriage train ride that uses a huge turntable?

Hey Skipper, Does Revenge of the Mummy have one or two turntables?

screammachine that sounds awesome. If Dreamworld did that they would become my favourite park

Does it have seats or do you stand in an elevator?

Thanks Gazzizile. Yea I read a huge article on the behind the scenes of The Mummy today. The carriages stay very close together on the dark ride section of the ride but separate further for the coaster section of the ride. I wouldn't call it multi-carriage though as it still has a very short footprint, but as for a large train - it wouldn't fit on a turntable.

Ok, thanks. Can you tell me what you typed into Google? I only get results of trip reports etc when searching for tyre drive systems.

Universal Studios spent a lot of money on a variety of advanced linear synchronous motors for their latest blockbuster attraction – Revenge of the Mummy. What sort of advantages are there when using this propulsion system? e.g. could they have used tyres in the track like Scooby, or is there a reason this wouldn't have worked in their situation? Thanks.

Dude, I'm talking about multi-carriage trains in general. What are they different methods they use to reverse trains? I cannot find anything on the internet.

Can anyone help me out?

Vote in the Big Thunder Mountain Poll Question: Do you think the new operator procedures implemented by Disney will help to prevent the same type of accident occurring in the future? Answer: Yes or no? (vote above) Big Thunder Mountain Debate Thread I am a bit put off by Big Thunder Mountain - http://www.themeparkinsider.com/news/respo...nse.cfm?ID=1389 There is no excuse for that happening.

It's a great family ride. I just wish it had a few more drops and thrills. I havn't been on the ride for ages though. I have a video of it (from the DVD of the movie) except that was when the ride first opened - and I have been told the ride has changed quite a bit since then. The new Space Mountain ride should be good as well.

Looking at all of Disney's rides (only been on the ones at Disneyland ) at the moment it would have to be Indiana Jones. But I think Expedition Everest will become the best ride Disney has ever made once it opens - not to mention the best ride in the world .

I didn't think Revenge of the Mummy had multiple carriages per train. Does it? When reading the description of the story behind Expedition Everest, it says that the track suddenly runs out and the train starts to slow down and roll backwards. Maybe when the train is ascending a piece of track is exchanged or rotated after the train has passed it to allow it to take a different path on its return. Attached is an example. What do you think?