Adam

What are you talking about? Known what?

lol, don't worry wonderbus, I'm done. I'll find another thread in this forum where we can argue - nah I'm joking...

Europa park is showing the construction of their latest attraction in real-time over the internet... http://www.europapark.de/webcam.html It would be great if they did this with Superman.

I would also like to know the answers to scott's questions. Paul, could you please provide links to the sources you are referring to? Thanks.

Ok. I sort of agree with you Alex. Well done. No ride in Australia is likely to be better than the average Disney ride anytime soon. And Gremlins or Bermuda isn't as good as Pirates - which isn't even Disney's best ride. I still however, think its possible to reach Disney (but not overtake Disney - well at least not yet ), although as it is obvious, money is a major problem. ...and that's me done with this thread Just a side note, before I started this topic I didn't really know that "Disney theming" was better than "Universal theming," in my mind, they were parallel. You have given me an insight into the religion that is Disney.

I agree, but thats what a forum is for isn't it.

Yea, but Vekoma would want to make their new ride system as smooth as possible wouldn't they (i.e. better than their old ride system.)? So if having the wheels on the inside was less smooth, why would they change? I am not saying Neb is wrong, I don't know anything about what effect it has...

If you've been reading what I've written, I am talking about individual attractions not an entire theme park. When I said - "an Australian park has reached that standard," I am sorry if I was being unclear but I am talking about an Australian park reaching the standard of having one or more Disney level attractions. Otherwise I would not have referenced such rides as Bermuda Triangle and Scooby Doo, I would have talked about staffing, accessibility and theming on path ways as well as the rides. I suggest you take a rest, read the thread, and then try to understand my loosely plotted argument that changes with every post.

haha, you don't have to write this ^^^^ when your replying to a post...

LOL! Paul's Nudism Pages... I'm not even going to look at it.

Haha, you have a good sense of humor wonderbus

I agree with you in saying that no park has reached Disney, it was only one attraction. I do not think an entire Australian park will reach Disney level for quite some time. I am talking about an attraction, in Australia, to carry the Disney seal of approval... Disney rides are usually very detailed and have been completely thought-out in every aspect, not to mention being continually updated with the latest technologies. Most of this is possible with money, however to add a story to an attraction doesn't cost a lot (depending on the physical requirements of theming that relate directly to the story telling) yet many rides in Australia do not have stories, while the majority of Disney's rides do. This seems to be where many themed Australian parks are lacking, the story telling. Many other parks will have ideas that are the same as Disney, or even better, but you will never see these as their budget will not allow it. I do however, still believe, that an Australian park can replicate a Disney level experience on a smaller budget (even if its being compared to the worst ride at a Disney park ). I guess we will have to wait and see.

Scott, I am no expert on statistical probability but saying that an Australian park will never reach Disney level, when one already has, doesn’t make sense to me. And if they have done it in the past I can only see them expanding on this. Scott, I do understand that Walt Disney invented the theme park. I don’t think you understand that other people have dreams and imaginations. Can you tell me how the imagination that is everywhere is different to the imagination at Disney? Sure Disney has a huge team of people that can dream but the main advantage that Disney has is that most of their dreams and imaginations are actually possible thanks to their budget. Also, well said Glubbo and Gazza, I agree entirely.

The Thrill lift looks great but I've never been on one. Have you?

I havn't heard of a "Reverse lift hill." Have you got a picture of one?

What lift type do you prefer? Why? For me, its either tyre lift hill or elevator. Thanks.

Which coaster lift do you like the most? Why? Thanks.

Thanks Alex for the great explanation. I've only been on one wooden coaster and that is the Wild Mouse at Aussie World. I was scared the thing was going to de-rail but I suppose if the corners were banked, and it was bigger, it would actually provide a nice ride. http://www.rcdb.com/m/ig460.htm - this looks like a nice wooden coaster (and it has a vertical lift!).

How come Paul? I have never understood why people like wooden roller coasters.

Just to add some meaningless comment as I always do. Wooden roller coasters suck. They're old. Ok.... I'm done.

Interesting, because isn't the concept behind Vekoma's new ride system to have the wheels on the inside of the track? I really don't know much about what effect it would have (although having the wheels on the inside looks safer).

This is how I look at it – you can either agree with me or make up your own mind. …On the 3rd of June 1991, Movie World opened a brand new attraction titled “The Great Gremlins Adventure”. This excellent Australian ride was labeled as a Disney level experience in terms of theming and authentic story telling. Later, in 2002, this ride was replaced by a block buster attraction – Scooby Doo – which has been dubbed as “coming close to Disney, but unfortunately not reaching it.” …One of Sea World’s most popular attractions - Bermuda Triangle – is another example of an Australia ride aspiring to reach Disney standards of story telling and special effects. Although “The Great Gremlins Adventure” has been removed and “Bermuda Triangle” is a relatively old attraction the future is still bright for Australian parks. Sooner or later they’ve got to strike it right.

Well, wonderbus2003 said that "Disney level theming" is not possible in an Australian park. I didn't and still don't agree with that. Your probably right in saying that it wont happen for a while but its still possible. It could even be here in October

Do you think this is for Superman or the new Interactive attraction?

Alex you can have as much will power and drive as you want but it’s never going to happen unless you have money. I'm sure it wasn't necessary to look further than two rides using the same tower in the same park, right next to each other... Alex you are arguing for and about the wrong things, if you have something important to say then please share it but don't post meaningless comments. I can't be bothered...