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Regardless of what maintenance they might be scheduled to have performed, the simple fact is there are more rides than you have months in the year. You have no choice but to have multiple rides closed at once or they will never have their shutdowns completed. Can't keep building rides and keep the same maintenance schedule. Have a choice. Close more rides during off peak times when visitor numbers are low, or suffer the fallout of having major attractions closed during peak seasons. Many reasons for trying to avoid the latter as much as possible.
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Considering I think the original date for closure was something like October? I reckon someone important might have actually seen your post, gone and taken a ride for themselves, realised the shit show they have expected guests to put up with, and decided enough was enough. 😆
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If they absolutely have to post things like chain dogs and arb's, at the least they should post a labeled photo showing them in position under the boats so people have an idea what they are talking about. Even if you have no idea exactly what it means, you can at least see what they are talking about and where it is.
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No, it's not PLC based at all. Sally don't do drive systems, they didn't even really do all the interactive stuff back then either. The drive system is completely separate from everything they developed or designed by them. Everything else you see, lighting, video queues, effects queues, it's all dmx controlled/served by solid state motion controllers that tie into the show control program developed by Alterface. Communication for scoring systems are handled wirelessly and converts back to serial data for the video servers/game servers. It's more akin to a video control center, has nothing to do with ride control at all. Alterface is a control suite (program) running on a windows server that is the bridge between the physical (shooting actual mapped targets) and the interactive elements with things like the projected screens. A great example of how queued events work in the ride is what happens when you get a stoppage during the ride and suddenly you can't shoot any of the targets ahead of you. If the stoppage is long enough, sometimes you'll even see the video replayed on the screen while you are sitting there waiting, or your lasers might completely time out and switch off like the game has ended. It's like 3 or 4 different systems working together. So you can't just upgrade or remove one element/system and expect the rest to continue to work. It's not that simple, which is why you wont find changes to the story/gameplay, like with additional/new scenes added.
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A lot of the animated characters appear to be moving but the lighting isn't working so you can't even see them. Problem is, I don't think the tech is any newer, its still IR based. You can't just add things to a ride like this, the whole sequence has to be rewritten and everything coded to operate each scene has to be changed as even small variations in triggering messes up the queued events to follow. It's designed around some old control systems with everything being dmx triggered. To make significant changes, it really needs to be gutted and replaced. If you had an unlimited budget it would be a trackless ride now. I think the best we could hope for would be a ride in as delivered condition, that is, all the interactive elements that no longer work, all the lighting and effects that provide theming will be repaired or replaced. Adding joker doesn't make a whole lot of sense as Starro is the villain. If they were going to add anything animatronic to the ride, they should add a captured Starro animatronic to the unload/exit tunnel area, like he is being lead away after justice league saved earth. Problem is, even a basic humanoid character animatronic can cost over $100,000 USD.
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I don't think its the evac frequency that is the reason for the stairs so much, more how difficult an evac from certain areas is. So having stairs is less of a safety risk to everybody (staff and guests).
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Wizard of Oz - Movie World Arkham Asylum Replacement
Levithian replied to Park Addict 93's topic in Theme Park Discussion
IP movie rights rarely have anything to do with use in theme parks. In a number of cases different companies actually own the production/performance rights vs the distribution rights for a film or cartoon, etc. So just because its a WB or roadshow IP, doesnt mean it crosses over for use in parks. Also have to remember that village bought out warner bros small share of ownership awhile ago and essentially use the name under a rights agreement. The characters you see likewise would have some sort of usage agreement too I would expect. WB don't even use village roadshow for aus film distribution anymore either. They ended their partnership a couple of years ago. -
Arkham asylum replacement theming??
Levithian replied to Cooper Liston's topic in Theme Park Discussion
It's a bit deceptive, the track contains a lot of flanged sections that are welded. Means you could cut through them, grind them off and dress the cuts, then weld in new flange plates later with very little damage needing to be rectified to be reinstalled somewhere else. If it's not ending up in skip bins, it's probably being transported somewhere else. -
You are assuming the after chiller is working properly / at all though. I could see hydraulic oil temps go through the roof if it wasnt cooling properly on a hot day. Hydraulic systems arent really designed to run at temps much over 70 degrees. So they could experience having to wait for the fluid temps to drop and try to manage the ride vs shutting it down.
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Might have something carcinogenic in the paint that means it has to be done by hand like superman last time.
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To me having ridden it a few times since the upgrade, the problem was their loading times are shocking. Wouldn't matter if you had 10 boats in the station, the one at the front still holds everything back. Even if you had a second boat waiting between unload and load, nobody can get in it until it moves forward, coupled with only being able to unload one boat at a time, unless the human element improves nothing else is going to make any difference at all. Should have designed the new station to unload/load 2 boats at a time. Then it would have been 100% down to the park staffing it properly to keep the high throughput happening.
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Sea World Monorail trains to be destroyed
Levithian replied to Jamberoo Fan's topic in Theme Park Discussion
Ones removed have already been crushed. They were out the front of adrians scrap metal in molendinar for about a week as they slowly dissappeared. -
Sea World Monorail trains to be destroyed
Levithian replied to Jamberoo Fan's topic in Theme Park Discussion
How many times do you need to say Bikash's name before he appears for comment? -
likely to be track inspection/testing
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That is the pinch point though i think. The pole doesn't just move up and down, it also moves forwards and backwards inside the hole in the ceiling because thats how the crankshaft works in pretty much all carousels. Its exactly like a piston moving up and down in an engine. Might be ok if you stuck a hand up there, but if someone stuck their head through, it probably got wedged against the ceiling panel as the pole moved forward or backwards. They are big, heavy machines, not a lot of things are going to stop it moving when placed in the path of moving components.
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I understand what you are saying, but either they messed up in the feasibility study, or they jumped the gun too quickly and agreed to build one before they actually planned it through. Ultimately, long before it was built S&S could have said no, we can't build a 4 seater variant and not have it derail itself nearly killing people in the process. Instead they designed and built one, installed it and said it's all good.
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Don't let that get in the way of a good story. 😄
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Easter 2022 Crowds at the Theme Parks
Levithian replied to themagician's topic in Theme Park Discussion
Happens when people start complaining about their visits in the parks own posts/updates. They have previous form for doing the same, stopping people starting their own posts, then stopping people from commenting at all when the complaints overran everything. -
Some of you guys have no idea at all how things work in the real world. You know who complains about noise en masse? residents who hear the noise. You know who doesn't? people at the theme park. Bit lop sided huh? It's not like they are getting applications from people to increase the noise limits to counter act the complaints. Council get flooded with complaints about noise, if they cause enough of a disturbance they act on it by imposing restrictions otherwise they are seen as ignoring the residents. Politicians of all kinds care about their careers and making it into local papers because residents feel they have been ignored doesn't register too high on their wish list. Doesn't matter if its a theme park, a race track, a pub, a concert venue. Doesn't even matter if the venue was there first. as urban sprawl encroaches on these places this is the sort of thing they have to put up with. It's driven more than a few places out of business over the years because they simply couldn't meet the requirements/limits imposed and remain a viable business. For reference, a quiet street is about 40dB. You can easily hear the chain dog disengage from DC rivals from studio village, be surprised how far noise of certain frequencies carry. It's all the other noise that goes with opening at night though. Things like music, lights, people screaming (as mentioned), plus vehicles coming and going. Hell, I bet they have even had complaints about the masses of smoke/fog/bubbles wafting out of the park following some events. I've been to fright nights when it was completely still, no wind at all. The smoke just kind of hung around and drowned out the car park and onto the high way. Didn't really clear away. You can be sure that rustled someone's jimmies.
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Other thing is, Luna park has a history of being open at night. It's different when you force a change on nearby residents.
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Easter 2022 Crowds at the Theme Parks
Levithian replied to themagician's topic in Theme Park Discussion
The number of people you can safely allow entrance is VASTLY greater than the number of people you can allow to enter and still stand a chance of keeping the majority happy with wait times for rides. Don't get those two things confused. They aren't even close to being mutually exclusive. I'd guess its likely even double, maybe 15,000 or more safely vs maybe 8000 to reduce the wait times? We keep having discussions about extended opening hours every year (sometimes every holidays!). Parks keep giving this a trial and the end result is it's not really that well supported. Especially when you factor into the logistics of keeping a park open "for a few more hours" and all the costs involved, the impact it has to staff levels/rosters, etc. Anyone that doesn't think (or realise) that accountants have a detailed cost analysis and know exactly how much money this generates for the park once everything is paid for, AND management still have come to the conclusion that all things considered, it's still not a viable long term proposition; really isn't grounded in the reality the rest of us live within. Customers have been unhappy with congestion and ride wait times for much much longer than this year, last year, or even the year before. It's nothing new, remember when village removed the ability to leave reviews for their parks or allow visitors to publish posts on their page (visitors post)? That happened well before covid appeared and messed everything up. Go to theme parks during holidays and it's going to to be packed. If you can't deal with crowds, if you can't handle a lot of waiting, you are going to be miserable. It has been like this for longer than some people probably can remember visiting. Pretty much every issue in this thread can be solved, or at the very least, significantly lessened by one single thing.... -
Easter 2022 Crowds at the Theme Parks
Levithian replied to themagician's topic in Theme Park Discussion
Even if you had the fastest loaders in history and as many trains as can be managed, still have something working against you on a lot of rides. Policy/proceedure in australian parks is different. Even the rides are sometimes modified with additional restraints compared to overseas models. Nobody will dispatch a ride without physically checking the harness is locked and giving an all clear signal before launch, even though it has multiple redundancies and multiple monitors which wont allow the ride to dispatch without it being in good position. Additional restraints are fitted and are also checked before dispatch. A good example are crotch belts. When you combine these with poor training/operation already discussed, times blow out even further. -
More of the same i think. You came through and made a couple of left turns, so the right side had more space for elements. When you first came into the editing suite, the track kind of continued ahead of you and there was a dummy filled crashed car covered with film ahead of you, like it went off track or into a dangerous part. You then turned left and the editing booths started. The scenes for the German one are quite a bit different and you can't really use it as a guide for theming. Aside from having completely different scenes things like a prop vault vs western set, the elements that were reproduced on both rides were delivered differently. For example, going into the film vaults, the gold coast one had a lot more noise and movement. Both from more gremlins, but the shelving the film cannisters were sitting on used to move around and crash/bang because it had gremlins climbing up and hanging off.
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It's entirely the reason why I said before that I think it'll be basically business as usual, not to expect anything too drastic as the village group continues to trade out of covid. Given how cheap they purchased the company for, If they keep chipping away at things while keeping spending low, BGH could see an investment return of a few hundred million dollars in very short period of time. That's all they will be focusing on, how to get the best bang for their buck. Plowing 100-150 million into the company probably isn't a good return on their investment.