Aw hype

Anyone reckon this will be at least soft opened by early December? Booked a trip over naively thinking this an WOO would be open.

Thats annoying, was hoping it'd at least soft open in time for my October trip. Absolutely no clue how they're going to fit all this in there is SFA space.

Please just add the context or make a statement instead of annoyingly beating around the bush.

Which has led to significant fatigue in the wheel bogies...I hope to be wrong but i think this may be a substantial closure with a re-design/re-engineer component.

From a bit of googling, a family boomerang in 2020 cost 4.5 Million AUD, and they got two of them. I recall Mark Shaw years ago saying on here that when you bring a coaster to Australia you essentially double it's cost due to our labour/material prices etc. I cant find any information about the SFC cost but i think it'd be fair to assume the 3 of them would cost somewhere around 25-30 Million AUD, although i reckon I'm going unders there. The Figure they spat out probably included the cost of AA demolition as well because you know big number good. When you consider Taipan cost 32 Million, it's a pretty good deal to cop 3 Coasters and a whole new themed area for only 50.

Indicative of a terrible work culture. I've come across many a shitty customer service workplace in my time, including places like Bounce. Some figure out their culture, making you feel supported, valued and leave you with a desire to come back irrespective of the crap you have to deal with. Others stink and make you want to quit. Minimum wage hospitality/service is always going to have seasonal recruitment drives for casuals (school holidays etc). Thats common sense. If they cant open rides during Winter, which they have before, because of a lack of staff, thats more of an indictment on the state of their workplace culture then any lack of wage or amount of crap they cop from guests.

I do believe the rocking launch with the spike will be a better ride experience. The nerfed comment just means it's less powerful. Accelerators kick you up the arse but are generally one trick ponies.

The Launch is so nerfed. Spike will be sick though.

Regarding those unopened coasters, from what i can gather, dynamic attractions went way over budget building them (and mission ferrari at Ferrari world) which led them into bankruptcy. It also doesn't help that Disney cancelled the ip that Genting wanted to use for them requiring a complete retheme. Im sure there'll be some sort of legal proceedings going on behind closed doors, and no one is going to want to come in and finish the project until thats finalised, especially without access to Dynamic's unique product patents.

I agree that area deserves something better than a Surfrider - or an Intamin twin hammer - but making the best out of a bad situation would be, imo, throwing in the towel with Doomsday and putting the Surfrider there because: a) You need an attraction semi reliably running in your (debatably) most well themed area to justify its build cost. b) It gives people a reason to go down that end of the park (since Scooby has gone down) other than solely as a thoroughfare to WWF, decongesting the front of the park (and feel free to correct me if i'm wrong but i think there's a whole 'the further you walk, the longer you stay, the more you spend' thing Disney believe in). If the Flash was a long planned installation then yes, the helix is a better place to put it, but given the context of both Scooby and Doomsday's non operation, and as purely a filler, I believe that area of the park would be much better for the 'new' installation.

Hate To be that Guy, but where did you source this information from? If Flash wasn't a knee-jerk reaction to Scooby's problems, and something that had been planned for any period of time (which seems unlikely given they refurbed and rebuilt it up the road before moving it over), the absolute dogshit attempt of village to theme it is even more of a joke then the 2D comic art would suggest to the untrained eye. And where else could have they reasonably put it in the park? All signs point to: Scooby carking it -> oh crap we didn't plan for the refurbishment of it at the end of its natural life cycle -> we have an extra ride up the road -> bring it down -> put it in superman's helix so we can attach some bullshit marketing slogan to the ride -> fail to open it in a timely fashion during availability crises. IMO, it would have made more sense to remove doomsday and put it in that plot if space permitted, but i guess 'closest roller coaster ride to a western themed log flume in the southern hemisphere' doesn't have the same ring as ' first ride within a ride' even if the former is more true...

That document is one of the more shocking and eye opening pieces you will ever read. Not so much for the gruesome details, thats a given, but the general complacency and neglect of the park through their maintenance team, lack of training and poor procedural expectations/knowledge. Dreamworld deserved every dollar and bit of backlash they copped, its just absolutely devastating it took 4 lives to bring their malpractice into the limelight.

They're closing just about everything else it seems...

This is Actually insane. To think they moved a coaster over to cover capacity loss from Scooby, just to piss fart around with it like all their maintenance jobs and not have it open, along with everything else. It's deplorable that they'd have the gall to both open the park and charge full price knowing families won't have the foresight to check what's running. No park in the world gets away with this crazy level of shithousery, nor do they let themselves exhibit such poor function in the first place.

I suspect this one post has displayed more patron analytics then anything VRTP marketing has drummed up for themselves over the past few years.

Sorry to interject, but what were the original plans?

When i went earlier this year, on a school day as well, trident was at no point under a 45 minute wait - despite the fact that the line only ever looked half full. It seems like a very aesthetically pleasing yet functionally lacking attraction.

Shame to hear Hair Raiser runs so rough. Glossy smooth when I rode back in 2014. As for the state of the park - Its quite sad. The Arrow looper was 37 years old so had lived its life, but the other rides in the summit were perfectly operable when closed. Ocean park had been crippled pre-covid by the Hong Kong riots and the downturn in tourism from mainland china that it caused, as well as the genuine competition that was starting to pop up from the mainland. I believe they are planning on selling off the summit and the area near the old Mine train to a private developer/operator who are then going to operate certain attractions on a pay per ride basis, and this company had no interest in operating larger rides - or those similar to the Disney style of ride - so Ocean park just shut them down. P.S that mine train was just as beautiful as it looks.

Abyss, the largest investment in the history of the park, opened in the days before the castle burnt down. The castle being an unpopular attraction of little to no value ('Mr Shaw said the structure had been there since Adventure World opened 31 years ago and could not put a value on it.') It was dead weight in a park run by a CEO ready to spend and expand, of which an old castle sitting on centre-park prime real estate was off brand. See this post Quoted By @Iwerks for more context. I feel like it'd be at least a little naive not to be at all suspicious of the incident, given they received their insurance claim as well as attempting to sue the fireworks company for $1 million, a lot more than its actual value, which id argue was close to nil.

'How to (allegedly) offset the value of the largest investment in your parks history with an insurance claim on a dead asset and a lawsuit against a subcontractor'

Over here in WA, we have Landgate Map viewer Plus -> Buy aerial imagery; https://map-viewer-plus.app.landgate.wa.gov.au/index.html Surely there is an equivalent in Queensland?

Having a corkscrew fly over the midway would have been iconic. Did the Arrow looper go on to become corkscrew at sea world?

Abyss is terribly rough. I'm talking arrow looper with square wheels rough. I have about a ride a visit and even thats too much, it just hurts.

Thanks All for your helpful responses. I did have the option to go a week later, but opted against it when I saw VRTP maintenance period starts on the 3rd. Had I been able to get longer off walk, I'd definitely have liked to go to Dreamworld. Good to hear the parks are quiet this time of the year!