HussRainbow87
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They’re already spending the money, they could have gone for a Zierer at least. Best of the best when it comes to a Wave Swinger. Their custom theming on some of their park models is incredible.
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Just now, REGIE said:
When’s it’s next appearance. Would love to get on that thing. Same with the traveling coasters is their any schedule on where the coasters will pop up?
The Beast is at Fountain Gate until the end of February, then Moomba and then Sydney Royal Easter Show. Same with the Crazy Coaster.
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Just now, Noxegon said:
What’s the Beast?
Is Crazy Coaster the only coaster at Narre Warren?
Yes. It’s the only coaster there.
KMG XXL is The Beast….
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On 1/2/2023 at 12:52 PM, Levithian said:
The same requirements apply to all operators whether you meet the requirements for an amusement park licence or not.
The new regulations apply to all rides and amusement devices above a certain class, that is what they were developed for. Doesn't matter how many rides you operate or large your company is, you could operate one single class 2 ride and still have to abide by the same regulations. It covers all instances of operating these devices, so fairs, fetes, shows, etc.
For reference, an example of a class 2 ride is a red baron style kids ride or something like a mini drop tower. It's basically the minimum class you'll find for pretty much any actual moving ride.
Worth noting that the intention is actually to develop a national code of practice, even though, as pointed out, other states have similar requirements from worksafe.Ahh something I’m well versed in, working with log books and application processes. This info is spot on. Design reg, plant reg…
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2 minutes ago, New display name said:
That was only the front page @HussRainbow87
Fair enough, but our regulations wouldn’t be much different. An amusement device is an amusement device. Regardless of travelling or park. It was more so a comment on how there’s isn’t too much difference in regards to how states regulate the use of amusement devices.
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Just now, New display name said:
@HussRainbow87I believe you don't have the same set of regulations as a theme park in QLD because you don't qualify as a major amusement park. If you don't qualify you aren't affected by the rules QLD H & S put on theme parks.
The safety case and licence regime for major amusement parks requires a comprehensive and integrated approach for managing amusement device safety. As part of the safety case regime, major amusement parks are required to:
- identify potential incidents and hazards involving amusement devices at the park
- carry out a safety assessment for amusement devices at the park
- implement control measures designed to eliminate or minimise the risk of an incident occurring
- prepare an emergency plan, consult with emergency services and implement the plan when required
- document information about the amusement devices at the park—for example about maintenance, inspections and testing of devices, and operator training
- implement a safety management system for amusement devices at the park
- consult with workers—for example in relation to the emergency plan, safety management system and preparing and reviewing the safety case monitor the effectiveness of the park’s safety case.
This isn't a theme park rides are safer than traveling rides moment, it's the Government sees theme parks have a higher risk of accidents or incidents occurring.
Everything you just stated applies to us. Our logbooks include all of those documents.
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10 hours ago, New display name said:
@jozI'm not saying anybody is incorrect and I could be way off the mark. It was only 2 days ago I thought they still sold individual tickets.
LPS is in a different state, so QLD health and Safety is a different entity to NSW health and safety. Very likely every state has its own rules.
Wouldn’t exactly say that, we operate and maintain our rides the exact same way in all four states that we visit. Checks and audits are fairly similar also.
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The Crazy Spinning Coaster is at our carnival in Apollo Bay, we close 28 January, with both the Beast and Crazy Coaster opening the following week in Narre Warren.
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On 9/12/2022 at 11:02 AM, DaptoFunlandGuy said:
And having visited Movie Park this year, it was interesting to see how similar the parks are! Obviously Movie Park is a lot bigger and they’ve got some better attractions.
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1 hour ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:
Just to clarify, I was not ever suggesting that safety was being compromised - I was simply saying if it isn't safety, it's ride time - which you've also confirmed in your reply.
So basically you give a lesser experience to
make more moneyensure everyone gets a ride.Not all rides can run a shortened program - ghost trains for example take as long as they take - so how do they deal with long queues near closing?
Usually they would close earlier than the gate closure time. We usually have to do that with The Beast at Sydney to get through everyone before closing. The ride is essentially closed to new riders joining the queue and then we ride the line until the show closes.
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7 hours ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:
I mean, Village operations are usually the butt of many a joke on here - but if you can load, cycle and unload a ride in 2:30, something is being compromised, and if it isn't safety, it's ride time.
And if its a pay per play attraction, i'd like a lot more than 90 seconds from liftoff to touchdown.
Don't see how safety would be an issue when a Sky Flyer is a simple attraction to load correctly when full, ours runs on an Auto program, obviously when busy and we're against closing times we have to cut down cycles, but other than that, you're getting around 3 minutes for a normal cycle, and trust me, that's more than enough.
1 hour ago, rappa said:So here is a genuine question…
Given Village (or Dreamworld) don’t just invent painful load procedures and extensive safety systems for the fun of it; they jump through whatever hoops the government makes them.
How do the carny operators get away with not doing half the safety stuff that the parks have to do?
There's nothing to get away with, the ride is being operated and loaded as per the manufacturers instructions. Safety is never compromised. I think its pretty standard that the parks have more steps when it comes to loading, its just how they operate overall. When a control panel is telling you the ride is safe and ready to operate, you operate the ride, it doesn't mean anything is being compromised. That statement isn't really fair when I operate our machines with care and I'm strict when it comes to loading also.
5 hours ago, Ashley Jeffery said:So you guys don't do the ekka then? Since a 3 minute ride time is required?
We do, but the EKKA and other shows also understand that when it is insanely busy and you have a hard closing time, you need to get through people, that's just how it is unfortunately.
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On 10/12/2022 at 9:57 PM, Rivals said:
Haven't ridden but from videos the dispatches are shocking.
All riders board, however the riders are only allowed to touch the lap bar. there’s only 2 staff on the ground and they have to do up the seat belt across the lap as well as the seat belt connecting the lap bar to the seat. With 39 seats / riders per ride it can take up to 10mins to just dispatch, is this normal procedure for other star flyers?
We can probably do 4 cycles in about 10 minutes on ours, with a full ride of 24 people....
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11 hours ago, New display name said:
@Dean Barnettare you going to be posting negative reviews everyday?
@HussRainbow87this is standard practise at GC theme parks. Probably because it's not in SW's interest to make people sick and they leave the park.
I realise that, most flat cycles are very tame here in Australia, but look at Pandamonium and even Wipeout had elaborate cycles that showed the rides full potential, it could be ever so tweaked to really show off what a great machine it is, but I have a feeling it will still be running that program in ten years 😭
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7 hours ago, rappa said:
I'll celebrate that from the comfort of the dockside bar. Its a nope from me for those things.
I haven't ridden a Skyflyer though admittedly. Is it more view than spew?
Certainly not getting me on Vortex though
You’d have a more thrilling ride on a Ferris wheel than Vortex. Congratulations to Sea World for the worlds worst operated Top Spin ☺️
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Common occurrence with Sky Flyers, we usually have to close ours with high winds, just not worth it when seats come close to hitting each other. I usually pull the pin around 40km winds.
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14 minutes ago, TBoy said:
List of New Attractions:
- The Dreamworld Flier. A Wave Swinger coming to the park in 2023. Suitable for all ages.
- Kenny and Belinda's Dreamland. Refurb of DreamWorks Experience. New experiences based off Play School, Bananas in Pyjamas and The Wiggles. ABC Kids World will also merge into this new land.
- Ocean Parade Expansion. Refurb of Ocean Parade with a new splash zone, and reimagined bumper cars and Pandanonium.
- Rivertown. New area based off jungle with Vintage Cars moved into the area.
- Jungle Rush. New $35 million coaster built by Vekoma with 12 airtime moments, ability to go both directions as well as a world first inclined turntable.
My thoughts:
- I like the idea of the Dreamworld Flier. I am surprised it took so long for one to come as Gumbuya World, Adventure Park and LPM all have one. Yes Sea World had one but there hasn't been one in QLD for 3 years until December.
- Great to see Dreamworks and ABC Kids merge into one with kids rides all around. I assume most rides from ABC will be moved over to the new location with some new ones. Unfortunately I feel like some rides won't make the cut and they will be retired.
- Ocean Parade expansion sounds awesome, but not much compared to the massive expansions elsewhere.
- Rivertown sounds awesome, with a controlled rollercoaster and the vintage cars moved. With the ability to go both directions I feel like maybe there will be a vote at the start whether to go forwards or backwards.
RE: The retiring of rides, I feel like these will stay:
- Shrek's Ogre Go Round (rebranded to BIP)
- Play School Wheel
- Pandanonium (rebranded)
- Big Red Boat
- Dorothy's Tea Cups
- Play School Wheel
- Escape to Madagascar (rebranded)
- Skadoosh
- Mad Jungle Jam
- The Claw
- Tail Spin
- Giant Drop
- Shockwave
I unfortunately think BIP Maze, Gingy's Gliders, PIB Sword Swing and Dronkey Fliers will be retired. The fact most of them will become less popular due to the DreamWorld Flier as well as the decreased room will probably mean some wont make the cut.
You do know AussieWorld have an authentic classic Zierer Wave Swinger!? QLD has had one for a while…
In saying that, if Dreamworld don’t go with Zierer, then it will be trash.
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1 hour ago, Baconjack said:
It’s easy to blame the woman for entering the ride area that we all know is a dangerous thing to do, but at the end of the day, a ride op should be trained to see people entering the ride area while in motion, so it’s more than just the woman’s fault, the operator needs to cop some of the blame. Not sure how carnies get trained but I know when I was trained on operating dodgems this was what I was told. Maybe some cameras in the ride operator booth to make it easier? Or better training?
I’m not really going to make anymore of a comment on this, but from her actions, the staff were not to blame in the slightest. The coaster also has two stations. Training could not prepare you for what she did.
Just thought I’d clear that one up.
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On 26/9/2022 at 10:55 AM, Natti_amusements said:
It cracks me up that this ride is the subject of incident at the Melbourne Show, cause when I went on it this year at the Easter Show, I had never seen over-the-shoulder restraints as low quality as the ones on the Rebel. They barely go down to your chest lol. I know that has nothing to do with what happened, but I still find it funny.
Ever been on Olympia Looping? They have restraints that just hold your shoulders. The restraints are fine on Rebel.
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7 minutes ago, Gazza said:
Chaos?
I think they stopped running worldwide since they kept falling over.
Lol. It’s in the Northern Territory… working.
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1 hour ago, Spotty said:
Sure do, have worked for them in the past too lol
As have I haha. Don’t miss those Sky Walker days
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12 hours ago, Spotty said:
Just wish the Zipper's still travelled. It's been so long since I've seen one
Keen to get a ride on the Rainbow as soon as it's ready. I know the owners of the ride are very keen to have it running, and proud to have it in their family.
Seems like you know said owners.
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1 hour ago, Jobe said:
Yeah I have been on the one at the Royal Easter Show in the early 2000's. Yeah they are definitely like a music trip on sterioids but the airtime that you receive on these is phenomenal. They give a really smooth ride ( which is what Huss rides of that generation are known for) and they look quite intimidating with the height they can achieve. However, they are certainly not too intense- they are definitely a family friendly thrill ride.
What made these rides were the uniqueness of the restraints ( or lack thereof). Basically they simply consisted of a buzz bar that lowered in front of you that you could hold onto but gave you ample room for movement- both laterally and in airtime. No seatbelts. Thats what made these rides sooo much fun. @HussRainbow87do you know if the restraints have to be altered at all to conform to any new Australian safety compliance since it last operated?
I was completely disappointed when i found out that the Rainbow was originally meant to be sold to LPS instead of the Ranger. It would have been hands down the most popular ride in the park. Heheh- I dont think @HussRainbow87 would agree that it would have been better at situated at LPS!! But man the missed opportunities to re-ride a Rainbow- at night- with THAT backdrop for a visual. That would take some beating!! Such a missed opportunity!!
As for a Zipper-I also have never felt the inclination to go on one. I dont think I ever will!! 🤣
Slight alterations, but the lap bars are staying, nothing really that will alter the overall experience of the ride.
plus there’s always the one in Paris yearly to enjoy a proper authentic experience as I did in July this year.
Zippers are wild, still to this day one of the best machines ever created. It’s up there with the intensity of Huss and their machines.
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14 hours ago, Baconjack said:
Is this owned by the same bloke who bought the LPS ranger as a parts donor? Heard this yarn a while back
Correct.
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36 minutes ago, New display name said:
I didn't know it was gone. 🤦♀️
Haven’t had one running in the country since 2008. That will change soon enough. Finally.
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Keen to get a ride on the Rainbow as soon as it's ready. I know the owners of the ride are very keen to have it running, and proud to have it in their family.
Vortex should replace Doomsday
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Clearly you haven’t ridden a legit HUSS Top Spin…. The original travelling models in Germany and the Top Spin Fresh in France are some of the greatest machines ever built.
Having ridden Talocan a few times and the travelling models, it’s safe to say that they’re outstanding rides.
Fight me on it. I don’t care.