HussRainbow87
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The ride was signed off by WorkSafe Victoria and was cleared to run, there was no issues with the restraints.
What that girl was saying in her post and on the news was a complete joke. I worked on the Sky Walker for 6 years and there was never any issues with restraints. There are also secondary locks in place so that if the main restraint locking system failed, the secondary would keep it in place. The harnesses do not actually click, the knife passes through the lock and is locked with the pneumatic system behind the seats, a secondary lock also passes through the knife so that if the pneumatic system failed, the secondary keeps the knife in place).
The dissapointing outcome of this situation was that some idiot on social media (yes, she made up some ridiculous story, saying that her shoulders came completely out of the restraint - this is impossible, if anyone has ridden a KMG TANGO, you would know that those restraints are very restricted and don't give the rider much freedom to move) made a ridiculous claim, and instead of the RASV getting behind the showmen and their safety measures, they made the situation worse by listening to these claims and keeping the ride closed. The fact that WorkSafe cleared the ride with no faults, just shows that this story was ridiculous.
Are we in a society today that anyone can make a comment on social media and an attraction could be closed? This could happen on any of our theme park rides also. It's frustrating to say the least.
Other than this incident, the show was a success and we had a great year on The Beast. Wonderful to see people really enjoying the ride.
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1 minute ago, Luke Costello said:
@HussRainbow87 that is a good. Do you operate this ride
Nah, I just work on deck... I have driven it though.... very easy! the ride has a limit switch that it will hit after a short while of the ride running at 100%, you then just take it back to 40% and then you can drive it back up to 100%
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Control panel for The Beast (KMG XXL)
The red box next to the panel is the remote control that helps set the ride up, it controls the walking system, hydraulic cylinders, winch system etc.
The three white buttons at the bottom of the control panel control the swing of the ride (15%, 40%, 100%) the switch is for the restraint locks, blue button is reset, red light is failure, and the dial on the right controls the spinning of the gondolas.
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wow it's creepy as! how spectacular.... In the announcement video I wasn't too keen, but that looks insane! very unique!
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Hope it gets something nice and 3D like SE.
This is the perfect attraction for some incredible 3D Models like Doomsday has!
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1 minute ago, Wil_i_am_not said:
Thanks for the info! As for classics, hopefully we get to see TPA's Turbo at some majors next year. Can't wait to ride that beast!
I wouldn't hold your breath on TURBO, i'd also love to see it back, but when and if it does eventually get out, it will most likely be a TPA Christmas job and other hire spots around Victoria. I got to do early designs for the artwork (middle panels) but its all been put on hold for the moment.
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11 hours ago, Wil_i_am_not said:
@HussRainbow87 would you happen to know who the Showman was? I'm quite interested to know as then you could probably pinpoint what shows it would have done, etc.
To be honest, I think the company would rather remain anonymous, but I know it would have been a major hire job attraction. It probably would have been too old to run at the Major capital shows, but who knows, seeing as Zipper still does Sydney! I wish more classics were at the capitals
11 hours ago, XxMrYoshixX said:I have brought this sale to the forum's attention a few times. Like what HussRainbow said, a showman was interested in the ride but pulled out at the last minute, going back up on Rides4u in the following days. It is now likely to remain at the park for the forseeable future until it gets sold again or has its date with the scrapper.
From what we were told, LPS pulled out, retracting the sale, that's why i'm still confused at to why the advert is still up.
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1 hour ago, Theme Park said:
it's not anymore apparently, it was to go to a Showman here in Australia but the deal fell through and LPS had the work done that was needed for the restraints.
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From what i've heard LPS has the funds to spend money on new machines, which is great. I'm not always negative towards the park, its just a shame to see a great place diminish slightly. Melbourne Luna Park is even worse. I'm honestly glad they invested money in the Ranger, as we all know HUSS rides aren't cheap to maintain.
I do believe Zierer make larger capacity swingers, but Zamperla does have a good reputation within parks and travelling shows.
Will be interesting to see how the ride does once installed, hopefully residents behind the park don't have something to complain about once again.
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LPS Couldn't even add a Zierer model Swinger.... I don't have high hopes for the place
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From what I hear the wheel is going through a re-paint, hence the missing lights and cars, they do a few at a time. Shame about Ranger. I wish theyd just let it go to a showman, there is interest in Australia.
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Got some good views today from the top of Superman and Batwing.... Looks like there are more artwork panels inbetween the brake run and the start of the lift hill... the line will snake around in there. The station looked pretty basic, but work was going on inside. People were up and down the lift hill all day doing stuff. Very exciting! This thing really is insane in person. Photos don't do the colour justice either! I always found myself looking at that lift hill wherever I was in the park!
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31 minutes ago, Brad2912 said:
Not particularly. The sooner our Parks become activity/precinct hubs outside their regular operating hours and start generating additional revenue streams, the sooner we'll see increased capital expenditure in response to the increased visitor numbers and avg. spend.
I think Top Golf is going to be a massive success for VTP.
Do other parks do this though? Just a question, I haven't visted any in the states, but are they primary just focussed on events that involve the park, or do they feature other activities.
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25 minutes ago, joz said:
Really? Because I kind of got the opposite impression. While I'm pleased that there might bot be a design flaw, here's the thing I think you're not getting: There's no way to tell who the dodgey operators are. What also appears to be true, is that ride safety on the traveling circuit appears to be a voluntary thing, if you want to go above and beyond and make your rides safe, you can, if you want to take chances with safety, apparently you can do that too. So long as the conditions that allow dodgey operators to exist are present, stuff like this will keep happening, and people will continue to not trust traveling rides.
I think the USA has a slightly different approach to how amusement rides are maintained, both park and travelling. The simple thing here is, if your ride has not passed inspection, if it has not had all maintenance work done, and all work is up to date, then the ride won't operate. I cannot speak for the country shows interstate, I only am aware of how WorkCover is here in Victoria.
Regardless of whether the machine is at a park or travelling, accidents can happen on either. Its a shame when it does, but it happens, just like plane and car accidents.
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Incredible photos and video! Im excited to see it later this week (thankyou GC work trip!)
Is it just me, or does anyone else wish the TOP GOLF site was kept for more rides/coaster at MW?
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Interesting to see that the ride was not sent for any major maintenance work at KMG in many years.
I guess this just proves that the owner was at fault for this, and the fact that this is KMG's FIRST accident on one of their rides in 18 years of operation shows that it wasn't entirely their fault. It also further implements that travelling rides are safe... One accident in 18 years...
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3 hours ago, themagician said:
@HussRainbow87 This is only the first sign of theming we've had, and isn't finished yet. So I wouldn't jump straight to any assumptions just yet.
No No, not making any assumption, it looks to be in similar style of Green Lantern.
Which is fine, because the coaster will speak for itself.
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Very exciting! Was hoping for more elaborate themeing like WWF or something... I guess the coaster was expensive enough.
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1 hour ago, djrappa said:
THIS! ^^^
This is exactly what I was asking, this company's procedures seem quite good then and what I would want/expect.
Now here's another question... is this mandated practice or is this just what your company chooses to do? And others (in Australia) don't all do that?
As for the United States, it seems things are very unregulated and this is probably not all being followed. Thank for a thorough answer.
As far as i'm aware its mandated practice, but then there are rides that don't go near the capital shows, and large events, so who knows if they adhere to these rules.
I read something that in the USA some states only require a ride to be inspected once a year, which i find to be truly ridiculous.... Hopefully those laws change.
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1 hour ago, djrappa said:
No what I'm saying is as an enthusiast (I was this before an employee, and to be fair I don't work in ride maintenance so I really would still think of myself as an enthusiast in that regard) I know the procedures and processes and parks have in place. It's pretty well out there as I say in the enthusiast community.
I would think that equal fans of the carnival industry would also have the same knowledge so could at least comment. At this point (this is as you say speculation) I would happily take the word of someone that says they do this or don't do that, I'm not seeking documented proof.
I'll give you the point that yes there may be the possibility that: the ride operator did engage the services of a reputable NDT inspection provider, have said inspections regularly carried out, was provided with the certifications of such. But in fact this reputable company was falsifying or was negligent in their inspections, OR that the ride passed all inspections which WERE don't correctly and this failure managed to manifest from non existent to catastrophic in the space of a maximum of 12 months (of course assuming the inspection was carried out at most 364 days prior to this tragic day). IF all of these things occurred then yes I will happily stand here and say, freak accident, they are in no way negligent.
Not trying to be a smart ass here at all, I do enjoy the discussion, but I think you'd have to concede that what I've written above is very highly unlikely.Ok, so the company I work for, they rebuild their rides yearly, replacing parts, not because of any defects, but because they keep things in perfect working order. They upgrade safety features when they become available from the manufacturer, and ensure that all maintenance procedures are undertaken regularly. Checklists are done daily, greasing of moving parts, and inspections of motors, gearing and other moving parts are all reviewed before anyone boards the ride for the day. Checks are also done at night after close. Once the ride has been packed and returned to the yard, usually towards the end of the year, parts undergo screening and rebuilds take place if necessary, Manufacturers keep owners up to date, and I know that KMG are extremely prompt in offering service. Mondial also offer 24 hour service, and some of their newer machines feature a connection that shows the ride is currently running, and if any problems are found, they can assist immediately.
I'm honestly not trying to fight you on this. Everyone knows the love I have for travelling rides here. Just like the Rainbow, that model in sweden was involved in an accident, HUSS made sufficient changes to ensure the safety of the public, and they move on.
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Each to their own I guess. I respect people's opinions. There is always negativity around travelling amusement rides, and it's something I don't care to listen to. I enjoy myself, I enjoy the rides, and I've made some fantastic friends working on the travelling circuit. Simple as that.
Somehow I think the industry will be fine without you getting on board. All is fine.
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The only reason I don't know is because it's mainly none of my business, but the people I have worked for in the past go above and beyond to ensure their rides are maintained to the highest standard.
Just like some theme parks will maintain an attraction better than another park that has the same ride.
Seems to me you have something really against the travelling amusement industry. Whereas most people on her have a love for the industry as a whole, travelling, park etc.
Go and visit some of the travelling fairs in Germany, they are in a league of their own, its incredible to see how much devotion and care are poured into their machines, its really something to admire.
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16 minutes ago, djrappa said:
As for considering parks and traveling rides differently... why? Just because the major maintenance parks go through is too expensive and inconvenient for carnival operators?
The ride mechanics and components are pretty well identical so why should one be subject to less scrutiny?
I guess different components go into how the machines maintained. Travelling operators must adhere to WorkSafe requirements, which includes paperwork and having things signed off. There is always an engineer present at the major shows to assist with any technical or mechanical issues. I wouldn't say its too expensive, it's more so just adhering to what is required for the ride to operate within rules. I don't think im lacking perspective, im just here to discuss a terrible situation. Im not against parks, its just annoying that Melbourne doesn't have anything big like the GC. At the end of the day, ill continue to ride travelling rides, park rides, and support both great industries.
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16 minutes ago, Skeeta said:
I'm talking about the Airmaxx 360 ride.
"The $868,000 ride, which was imported from Spain in June 2012, was subject to poor inspections that failed to highlight inadequate seat restraints and substandard oil and electronic systems.
The court heard no designs were registered with safety watchdogs, which is illegal.
The ride had been subject to at least nine audits prior to the accident from private safety inspectors and Queensland, New South Wales, Victorian and South Australian government officials."
Every state looked at it an not one state picked it up.
I'm honestly not sure how it passed inspections, I guess its something that will only ever be known from the owner and WorkSafe. I rode it once, never again, it wasn't anything special to be honest. The ride now is either in the USA already or on its way there. It's just a shame when a type of ride is purchased, and it's a copy of an original quality machine that uses cheaper materials.
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Looks like it could be a small bit of fun, not a huge fan of Zamperla designs though....
They should have gone with this haha