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I don't complete disagree with this view, there certainly is going to be some benchmarking going on. However it doesn't change my statement. With or without Rivertown, WOZ would still be the same offering today based on the decisions made. Which in my view stems from the lack of operational planning, strategic planning, creative planning and most importantly collaboration. When an executive wanders the trade floor of an industry expo and commits to the purchase of a new attraction without first getting together all of the half a dozen key stakeholders from differing disciplines to collaborate on the project in a first instance then this is what you end up with, a fair comparison and a bar that will likely continue to be raised, within scale. No one may have said anything about themed garbage bins in The New Atlantis, I certainly didn't in my comment above. However what is fact is The New Atlantis was a far stretch from what was conceptually presented as an immersive experience/environment. Not to mention WOZ follows the same trend as The New Atlantis. Some things have been done right, however there is a lack of consistency and cohesion. The same can't be said about Rivertown.
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I wouldn't be shocked if we saw this happen in the near future though... the amount of money being spent on staff wages for these attractions would be rather high... There are staff everywhere to both operate and to navigate the design/layout of these attractions. -
I think this might have been said previously but kudo's to the Dreamworld leadership team on the execution of Rivertown. Rivertown excels as an experience because as Gavin said, you had the genuine interest of the DW leadership team to add in things like easter eggs, depth to the story, repeat discovery etc. All the things that make up an expectational international themed experience. We can't lose sight that the key players in the Australian market are executing projects on our shores in the millions, not the billions. So when you really look at what's been achieved with Rivertown, all three of the keys parts of this land have been underpinned by operational planning, strategic planning, creative planning and most importantly collaboration. This isn't just one persons view or opinion of the finalised product, I have no doubt this is board collaboration within the team at DW. The unfortunate part is I couldn't confidently say the same about the project down the road. Both Pico products. Budgets may have varied. Internal timelines from conception to completion similar. Both benefiting from the expertise of the same OEM. However one of the biggest influences between the two when it comes to what we have now is no doubt what I've said above. If Dreamworld can continue this recipe in varying scale, then I look forward to their continued success and growth!
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I don't understand how they are having these ongoing staffing issues? This has been a problem for sometime now yet it doesn't seem to be an issue at say Sea World or Dreamworld?
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I heard that literally right up until the lead up to Christmas that there was multiple final containers of theming arriving for install and placement.
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I have to agree after watching that video they have done a remarkable job with this project. The detail, the difference in elevation on the vintage cars path of travel to give you the sense of realism, scale and wow factor. Not to mention, sound and lighting that will also only positively contribute to the immersion. I'm just as excited to ride Murrissippi Motors as I'm Jungle Rush. When I look at the footage/photos we have seen of both Rivertown and WOZ, I feel like Dreamworld have defiantly executed the themed land to a high level, covering the entire area in great detail. Where as the ride areas for the two WOZ coasters seems pretty sparce and undercooked? Maybe the stations and queue areas will make up for that but i feel like Rivertown is genuinely a much more well rounded execution.
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Movie World Scheduled Maintenance 2024
Levram__ replied to themagician's topic in Theme Park Discussion
Agree, this is a more accurate depiction of an insurers influence. You will often find that the "suggestion" or sometimes influence can come from the risk assessors for the particular underwriter. I've dealt with these particular roles within my role in the industry on a number of occasions. -
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Gosh they haven't aged well!
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This is correct accessibility played a part however the arcade was in the mix well before First Aid was even considered being moved. The arcade was originally an Intencity project that was being scoped post pandemic. However its my understanding Intencity dropped it, the site sat dormant longer than originally anticipated and the project was pick up by VRTP as a capex project. The scope then grew to encompass the relocation of First Aid with improved facilities/services, an indoor ambulance bay and new BOH space/offices for other shared services for the parks.
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I think the other thing to consider here is that DW aren't trying to be something their not and also why should they. Its often talked about in their shareholder calls that the park scores rather favourably with their NPS and GRI scores, particularly when it comes to their seasonal event offering. This gives them a pretty healthy understanding of what their primary consumer (guest) wants. Personally I also don't think spending $250K plus with someone like an Oracle Liquid (not including the other labour/entertainment costs for the show) is going to improve their overall ROI for the event if a laser light show is primarily what your using as a basis for the difference in offering.
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I believe you'll find a lot of their marketing is purely via social mediums and BVOD. Which likely works for them as a seasonal operator. Season passes would contribute to a significant amount of their ticketing revenue/visitation so the need to do broader interstate or intrastate advertising is likely not worth the cost.- 6 replies
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The other factor at play here is that each of the businesses that form part of the Major Amusement Park Safety Case are required to outline their own commissioning standard in the safety case outline. Its likely not to state the specific number of cycles in the outline but I know first hand that supporting documents for one particular property does outline a minimum number of cycles as part of the commissioning process. 500 cycles for example may sound like a lot but that figure can be tracked from the initial commencement of commissioning while the OEM still holds ownership of the ride, the figure is also not an unlikely benchmark.
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What is the future of Raging Waters Sydney
Levram__ replied to Ranger's topic in Theme Park Discussion
I don't believe you'll find the property shutting down anytime soon. There would also be some complications (not impossible to navigate however) about the lease use of the land to which the site sits on. You can't forget that Palace purchased the park for a bargain. Even better so than their original offer the year prior. Following the acquisition and change over period they drastically right sized their shared service side of the business and slimed down their P&L making it a profitable 'regional water park' in the eyes of its owners. With that being said its likely to continue that way, a regional/seasonal style water park that continues to plot along with occasional commercial capex that has guaranteed ROI. But id be shocked if we saw any sort of significant new investment anytime soon unfortunately.- 6 replies
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