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Hey Joz...you know me, I'm not getting fired up at all, just trying to state fact :-p Just to clarify for EVERYONE on the board, I have no problem with ANYONE posting their ideas/opinions on whatever no matter how wrong or far out they may be. My issue is when people demand that they be taken as true fact and then get all arced up when they are corrected. The GD would not be able to be released in the 'normal' manner and fall at the 'normal' rate because of the effect of the brakes. That's all I'm saying. I don't have any reason to doubt your statement that the amount of power applied at launch has been reduced. All I'm saying is no matter what they crank the power up to it won't effect the rest of the park or Coomera for that matter. Last time I rode TOT was late Feb with Richard and Nev. Don't remember what the reading was and it was that period when it was stuffed anyway. Maybe one of those 2 do remember, but i think it may have been something in the high 150s. The ride was running very fast though, much faster than STE was when I was there this time last year.

Urmmm...well yes generally how we humans work is that you do have to earn yourself some credibility. Anyone can just come and start blurting out words, but whether it means anything is a different story. No we were not all once anonymous posters, I have never once posted in any forum under an anonymous name. All my posts contain my signature and my name and my profile says a bit about me. I'm sure everyone here can vouch for me on that. I think it is you that is taking offense to being questioned here not me. Again everyone here will know that I don't bight on arguments and fly off he handle :-) Of course GD could get stuck there, there are many factors that could lead to this. The simplest being the winch motor itself simply 'blowing up' or one of its main components. There will always be unexpected failure, I don't know why you are making such an issue out of it. And you toaster remark clearly illustrates the fact you didn't even read what I wrote. I was using that to explain a point, no TOT is not a toaster but your house is also not DW... Just forget it, clearly your are the supreme master and must have worked at both DW, Intamin and the Electricity board for many many years. You must be tired, how old are you again?

Okay this is weird because I got an email notification of your reply Obstructure but it doesn't show up here. Basically I'm not prepared to continue this conversation any further until you identify yourself because I'm not going to argue with an anonymous poster. What I will say is no I don't work for the park or live in Coomera but if that is your argument then that's pretty juvenile. I know a ****load about electricity and how the power supply grid works because I deal with it every day, do you? Its not just as simple as saying they share their supply with the town. It is distributed to a Main board at DW which is then distributed to sub mains throughout the park, one of which will be TOT. Its done like this so one fault doesn't knock out the whole grid. Surely you don't think plugging in too many toasters at your place will take down the entire suburbs power grid do you? As for GD. Of course there is a chance of that, if the lifting winch mechanism broke down on ascent at that point then the ride would be effectively 'stuck' in the brake zone. Therefore it would not be as simple as letting it go to have it fall straight back to earth at the rate of gravity. Which is what I was saying if you read the post. Have a nice day 'mr X'

Okay where do we start with this one :-) First of all thank you for regurgitating a whole bunch of stuff most of us all either know and/or have posted on this forum in the past. You don't have to worry about looking like a "know it all" because I can assure you that post makes quite the opposite point. WOW I just think you may be right and they DO use a magnetic breaking system. Guess that public knowledge that DW even advertise on their site must have been right all these years! Well yes (although I'll get to your power statement soon) that is why all the published statistics state a max. speed of 160 not 180. Yes it would fall at the same rate of acceleration as usual until it hit the brakes. If however it got stuck in the braking 'zone' then it would be a different matter all together. Okay that is pretty much complete crap. You cannot simply ramp up the power and get it moving faster. It would not black out a suburb ever because it is running off of DW's isolated mains supply. The cabling used in the system is only rated for a certain level of current. The power supply is breakered (circuit breaker) at this level. If the ride was to attempt to draw more power it would simply trip the breakers. This is done to prevent fire. If you try to draw more power through you wiring the cabling simply heats up beyond its capacity and catches fire. No blackouts, never were, never will be. Urban Legend, yes. Always have been, always will be. More crap. That is not and was not ever in the design plans, same goes for its sister ride at SFMM. The brakes at the top of the tower are for extreme circumstances where for some reason the car might reach the top of the tower. To prevent incident brakes are installed that will slow and stop the car preventing it from reaching the end of the track. This is the same on all lunched shuttle rides. Of course they don't press a button to control speed. It's all handled by the PLC. Power supplied for launch is the same for every ride, that is why you see the car making up different heights of the tower. To allocate power to each individual launch as you say it would require weighing of the car prior to each launch (ala Dueling Dragons) which TOT does not do. Welcome BTW, some good stuff in your post, good fix on the name old son. :-)

LOL yeah Dan, I too think it a bit strange that no one at DW noticed until the loops were completely gone :-p

Ah why not be totally precise and say '97 ay mate :-) Yes I'm sure this post may have been an oversight but if you read some of the others I'm not too sure. Just keep an eye on things and only post if its really something of substance and accurate Scott buddy... Welcome to the forums.

Well I think I better get on the phone to Intamin to express my unhappiness with the lack of performance of their ride. I mean 4km/h in 7 years...thats just disgusting :-p

I'd say as they were built somewhat differently maybe getting rid of the loops was a bit more involved than simply driving a piece of machinery through them :-) That's probably while they ended up leaving them for so long i guess :-) Or perhaps someone bought the loops and plans to turn them into some kind of shuttle coaster HEHEHE

At this stage I plan on going to the show next Friday which is the first day of the show :-)

Yes I totaly agree Richard. And it is a damn shame about colossus, theres nothing I hate to see more than sagging wood and peeling paint It still is a damn cool ride though, and I was so glad when I finaly got to ride it after seeing the Vincent Price doco. and Griswalds all those years ago :-) I think a woodie would be great for MW, followed by an indoor matrix themed flying dutchman (loading on Vekoma suits matrix theme better). Dreamworld should get the giant stand up from B&M and an Intamin Perilious Plunge style ride. As for Seaworld I think the perfect addition should be this new coaster being discussed at the moment on Westcoaster. Tiny footprint and would pack a punch. Its a B&M floorless with a smaller footprint than a Boomerang! http://rcdb.com/installationdetail2504.htm

You just need to ride Ghostrider is all Dan...I think that pretty much sums up the argument. My god that thing is amazing. I really think MW should be the ones to go down the woodie path. Put it over near WWF and it could easily be themed to the old west. MW would give it the capacity and the attention it needed. And we all know that if it was built at MW it would be nothing short of fantastic :-)

But without the wheel where would have the got the idea for the pizza?? :-)

Yes I'd agree with you Richard things have certainly changed a lot since the days when I was a lad...and I still have one of those captain hats :-) I do remember the place as being very different when I would visit with my parents all those years ago. This is the time like pre-wipout and wildlife park and all that stuff. I suppose its nice that we have some of that stuff now but I will always miss some of the 'character' the place had. Most of this down in the rivertown areas, the Model T's really haven't been the same since TOT went flying over the top. I for one though am happy to see the loops stay. If you all recall I was the one that actually sugested this many months ago...would be funny if the park got the idea from there :-p I don't see it so much as tacky but rather just leaving a landmark in place which is really what they are. I will give you the point though that if they are to leave them there they really need to increase their presence from the highway. I think its a better way of doing things than simply removing any trace that the ride ever existed which is what you see when most other parks remove rides...

Well seen though you asked them two completely seperate questions and her answer was only "YES" as you say, exactly what does that mean???

No I'm not saying you were wrong bout the model/manufacturer coming to Dreamworld. Wow that would be a big harsh to expect you to get the right one out of two almost identical rides. Besides I couldn't care less whether its a huss or intamin in terms of flats... What I am talking about is that the ride you are talking about IS NOT a Huss Delirium, it is a Giant Frisbee. Delirium is a completely different ride and not the one found at the us park with the Ride named Delirium. That is what I was getting at. Why I got annoyed is that I have explained this already and still people continue to use the wrong names...

Well if you insist on being so pedantic then at least get it right. The right is not a Huss Delerium!!! It is a Giant Frisbee, Delirium is a completely different model. Just because one park calls it's ride that doesn't make it suddenly the name of the model. We don't call it a Vekoma Demon do we? Or how about an Intamin Space Probe???

Well yeah I was there late Feb too and yes the damage was incredible. Fortunately for your average GP member that would have no clue, a true credit to the MW crew for getting it back so quickly. There is still much work to do and as it has been sugested I imagine it will go down for quite some time once the weather cools off a bit, possibly post holidays Rabid? You wouldn't want to have a major water ride closed in this weather!

WOW yeah 800*600 is way out of date these days. I agree 1024*768 is the norm but having said that I run all my displays at 1280*1042. Most sites you'll find will be designed around 1024*768 and up.

Not that I doubt you or anything Daniel but I find it really weird that WL now have to close those two rides early in night time trading. I can maybe understand why Snowy can't run in the dark now when it once could, you would have used to have several staff in the spotters towers and on the dock where as with staff cutbacks that is no longer the case. Therefore like you said you can't see the whole course and it could be unsafe... However BB doesn't make any sense...its not like its suddenly darker at night now than for the past how ever many years, or that you used to be able to see the track... Both rides always used to be open at night and were great fun, why do things suddenly change now???

And I'm first dibs for Freak Number 2...I'll be the weirdo on the Bush Beast station making sure no one gets in the back row on that last run but me! :-)

Well please share your wisdom of how you'd like it to be spelt and I shall change it...however this way has been working for me for the last 20 years and my dictionary is pretty happy with it also :-p

Perhaps they could run a big competition. Maybe like a big spelling contest where the winner gets the last ride ever at Wonderland??? Pity Shifty would never win :-p

Actoaly from what I heer the real reeson for teh sale of the park is oa thay can undertak a major internation investment. It looks like the sic flags has decided to capitolise the whole in the market that will soon be created when Wodnerland Sydniy closes next month. The chain plans to open a new park in the Sidney area within the next 18 to 24 months with a host of brrand new atracctions. We will be getin 3 new B&Ms as well as a big Woodie and someting from Intamin. I cant wait its like my dreams have come true!! Yours Trueley shifty mc shift.

OMG Joz I just pissed myself with your milkshake comments...very well put there! Tell you what guys, Richard sure aint exadurating when he said scary, I've never seen two guys freak out as much as those two did in the front seat of that baby :-) Not just on the cables thing, I know Joz will share my views... To say this place has some sort of fetish for pulleys and cables is somewhat of an understatement. I swear the entire mountain is held together with cables in one way or another, the things run every which way around the place and we're certain that everything down to the small gate on the Scenic Railway runs on one! All I can say for the gold ole folks at Scenic World...if you ever hear the words "Work Cover Inspection" RUN...RUN Really fast!

Well I got an email from the Guest services manager letting me know that at this stage they are still planning/expect to be open until the 26th... I know they have the staff issues but its great that management are still trying to do their best to keep things running till the end.