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Hey Richard Very interesting info you've got there. Just curious where did you get all that from? I was a little confused with what you were saying about B&M? Where abouts are B&M actualy located? Are you saying that get Giovanola to manufacture their track for Europe installations and do it themselves for the US or use Giovanola for both? If so, where do they do their own? With all that in mind what are your thoughts on this rumour?

Oh definately, whilst I don't think it would be a small coaster I don't think for a second that it would have to be going to Dreamworld.

Well seen though we're talking rumours why not go all out here :-) Given the fact that the company is looking for manufacturing companies here, one would assume that they have probably not had something built in this country before... This could very well give us reason to speculate we could in fact be getting our first beamer! I don't suppose your contact knows which country these guys are from?

Yes I don't think that this office is exactly an attractive thing to be putting behind the park. Look at the photo, its bloody ugly! I can see the residents have a point here, you can't just go wacking up a building in front of someones apartment. However I don't really give a toss about the residents, they have never been reasonable before so why should anyone be reasonable with them now!

Oh I totally agree and would personally love to see an Intamin coaster period. Let alone a lunched ride. I was more looking at it from a parks and punter point of view though, your average jo isn't really going to go "well that is a LSM launch and this is Hydraulic and is a different style of ride." They are probably just going to say hey they both launch out of the station.

I'll go with Richard here. As much as I'd like to see my two favourites (an Intamin Rocket, or a Vekoma GIB) I doubt that would happen. They've already got a launched ride, and the reliability of the GIBs would put people off at the moment... A hyper or giga would be a wicked addition as far as us types are concerned IMO but for the GP its probably not going to cut it being as how they already have a standard sit down coaster. A floorless would be a great way to go, unique to the country, relatively cheap, attractive ride and great sensation. My vote though would be for a B&M standup much in a similar vein to Riddlers. That is one awesome coaster. What I would like to see is this built with two large consecutive loops by the road (THINK BOLT) and much of the same layout and size of Riddlers. It could be themed in with Ocean Parade (I hear surfing the ultimate wave???) and would be a nice replacement physically for the bolt... Any thoughts?

Hehe I don't know how much of a secret that one is :-) SHHHHHHHHHHHHHh

No its just everyone sits around and complains that that they want a new 'ride' and then when a park decides to add something you say its not good enough... What is with that?? I wouldn't say I am one of the reasons why parks 'dont have to add' as you say. I can just see reason that a new major attraction doesn't have to come every single year. I don't visit WL because they have done **** all in years but 12 months off is no biggie IMO.

I don't see what the problem is with some people. Why do you feel the park should have to live up to what you want to see? So what if they didn't add some new major huge ride last year. Its not like they aren't spending money. Just look at the Bolt site. Obviously there are big plans for that. SW are adding a new attraction and MW has done the same. These parks are spending money and as much as we'd all like to think so, us enthusiasts aren't their top priority. They are there to please the public who like most (myself included) can quite happily have a return visit without anything major added. To say that they will become like Wonderland is just a stupid comment. The GC parks are continuously spending, just be happy that you are getting one ride for christ sake. And its not like its going to be some ****ty flat either.

No worries, I was just curious because I really want to see one of those actual Deliriums built! Maybe I will see you at DW between the 16-20th feb...

Thought I'd dig up an old quote :-) You say it will be a Huss Delirium like at PKI, however PKI has a Huss Giant Frisbee called Delirium I do believe. Delirium is actually another ride made by Huss which appears on the website and looks very cool, although I don't think any have been sold yet... Which ride were you initially referring to?

Okay I may be wrong here because I know nothing about you Dinosaur but that sounds like a pretty immature comment to me. MX5 is actually pretty spot on with the whole 'big America Disney trip' thing. Families do indeed pack up the kids and make a big journey over to Disney. They'd easilly stay 5 days there at least...look at the DLR 5 day pass man. I know when I was a kid we would go as a family to the GC and easily blow 5 grand on a 2 week holiday so why is it so hard to believe yanks would spend 3? Just because you wouldn't do it doesn't mean its totally wrong... And as for a Big park in Sydney if your talking about the Six Flags style of park with a heap of coasters costing millions upon millions each all being something of decent quality... that's just not going to happen, we just don't have the market for it here. I'm not saying that WL is the best we can have (because its ****) but don't expect too much.

I too think you are exactly right which is why I've always taken things like a big SF park here in Sydney with a grain of salt. If you do visit SFMM you have to get it in your head that your there for the rides and try to switch off from the rest because it just plain sucks! Only exception was the Scream crew when I was there... If you look at our GC parks they are fantastic in terms of staff and cleanliness. And yes we do have some world class rides. I will say though in terms of WL there is really only a single world class ride being Probe. Anything else is a dodgy park model flat or a boring clone. However the park used to be beautiful in terms of aesthetic beauty and staff. In my books the sort of overseas park you want is Knott's, friendly staff, clean park, great attractions and a good atmosphere amongst fellow guests. Much like we see on our GC parks. "Well Put" I say to you!

I've always thought that funny how they go and mob the LIMs on ToT given that at DCA they have squirters spraying water all over theirs on Clif. Screamin all day long... it's a pretty cool look to see the steam coming off those babies.

Ah knew it would be simple. I never hovered over the button long enough to see the little popup! Just a quick note, don't know if it was a one off but I just came here via the link in a subscription email and it just threw 'runtime errors' at me. Maybe its just a one of thing for me or perhaps there is a loose piece of script lurking somewhere. New forums are great btw.

Okay quick question, probably stupid me but I can't find how... Is there any way to turn off the default setting of automaticaly quoting a post your replying to when you go into the advanced reply section? I know there is an option under 'quick reply' but I can't see anything in the main reply window. Oh and BTW I can't find 'custom tittle' in Edit Profile either??

I must say it sounds like a cool concept and would love to see it some day. However I don't know how possible mechanically it would actually be to achieve the track transitions your talking about. I'd imagine it would be very difficult to have the bogies mesh up with the track when changing from the top to the bottom rails. Not saying it would never be possible but I don't think its anywhere near as simple as they make it look in some of the animated simulation rides (do you know the ones?) It would have to be a very precision system in order to minimise any stress on the cars or the riders. I also don't know what the affects of friction would be if the car was travelling on 2 sets of rails. You only have to look at the problems with X and that’s at least 2 sets of rails in the one plane, not even one above and one bellow the train. Having said that, cool idea, never hurts to come up with unique concepts!

I think the key to how well it would work is how close up you look at it. My guess is with something like this they would be going for an aerial photo of the finished flag. If you took the shot from a decent distance (as you normally would) it would probably look okay and you most likely wouldn't notice the holes.

You say this is your opinion but you are actually trying to say that this is everyone’s opinion. Do you just switch off and create your own fantasy when you read posts because clearly you take no notice of what is being said! I never said anything about who makes the rides or where they come from. IM SORRY BUT PEOPLE BLOODY WELL DO TAKE NOTICE OF PRODUCTION VALUES MATE <-and yes I am yelling Why the hell do you think that Disneyland is what it is and SFMM is what it is???? People don't go to DL for extreme thrills you dolt. Do you actually listen to the drivel your coming out with Where is this published as fact? There is a lot more to enjoyment of a ride than how fast it goes and how many Gs you pull mate. MW rides aren't supposed to be intense, they are highly themed attractions an entire experience not a one trick pony glorified carnival ride. There is a lot more to THEME parks than just Roller Coasters that's why SFMM is an AMUSEMENT park, its not trying to be Disney and that's why it will never have anything like the attendance of the joint up the road. I think its a bit sad that all you can see is your own interests and just can't accept that the greater public might think a bit different to you, and its just as well I might add! I think its about time you stop talking from your arse kid... ...sorry guys but he's ignorance has really pissed me off now.

What does that post have to do with anything I said? If you read carefully (OR AT ALL) you will see I said that DW had the better ride package. However IMO the attractions that MW has in their own right are far superior. Look at WWF and Spooky Coaster, in terms of production value they leave anything at DW for dead. Im not saying MW is the better ride park, I'm saying that the rides that they do have are of a higher standard.

I'm afraid I would actually disagree with that. I would say best rides would go to MW because all of their attractions are pretty much first rate. Best ride package I would give to DW as individually its rides aren't quite up there to the MW standard when put together it makes for a pretty awesome ride park. Best theming easily MW, how can you even compare the quality here with WL?? Best scenery is easily SW as its without a doubt the most aesthetically pleasing park to spend a day in. IMO the nice packed park is the way to go. Look at Disneyland Park, with wall to wall attractions it makes the park seem to offer so much more. I don't think DW would be all that much smaller than WL its just it fills the space with so much more. Wonderland has always had a lot of sprawled out attractions dotted around the place which is no where near as user friendly IMO. Wonderland will never fill in the gaps, its actually making them bigger by the week!! As for WLs theming with the exception of Transylvania I think most of it has always been fairly cheap and nasty. HBB was pleasant but not very highly themed. As for Gold Rush I think that its about the ****tiest attempt at theming everywhere. Just because its an old world theme doesn’t mean you can just throw some old bits of timber and iron around the place and fill it with the usual crap stores, games and asphalt everywhere. In contrast everything at MW is themed down to the end with a fair bit of attention to detail as well. Just my 0.02c...everyone can have their own opinion.

Yes I totally agree on the laser cutting thing, that's easily done. You just vary the intensity of the laser for the depth of cut you want. This works because you are hitting an object, glass. This doesn't translate to the 'mid air' application because there is nothing for you to hit, simple of that. There is nothing for the light to refract off enabling you to see an image. The laser will just travel forever until it fades off into nothing.

Well Slick I don't know what your 2 years was spent doing but my guess is it was pretty much wasted. If you re-read my above post you will see that it is in fact NOT possible to do what you are suggesting. A laser is just a high intensity beam of light, therefore still has to obey the laws of physics pertaining to light. I work in this industry everyday and trust me if one could simply project in mid air I'd be a very happy man but its just not gonna happen. The problem isn't the light source its the air!

Actually just FYI you can animate a laser projection, it involved the use of high speed drive mirror heads. You can also get full colour laser projection. What this involved is pumping the argon laser beam through a series of prisms and reflectors to get the separate colours to make up the RGBAW image. Pretty complex and precision stuff but easily doable. You can also project a hologram through the use of a Fog Screen which involves a carefully fine tuned wall of fog being produced. This technology can be seen in use very effectively on the Indiana Jones ride at DL. It is used to produce a cobweb which the ride vehicle ultimately travels through. Not being able to create a projection in thin air is not really a matter of technology, its simple physics. It will never be possible to project an image into an empty space (mid air) because there is simply nothing for the light to bounce off meaning it will just keep travelling until it does find something, invisible to the eye. The way we achieve 'mid air' beams with lighting is to fill the air with a thin 'haze.' This usually consists of vaporised oil particles or super heated glycol fluid at high pressure. This produced sufficient air born particles for the light to bounce off whilst still enabling it to travel, thus producing a beam of light. Fun stuff huh :-) ...and people say forums aren't educational!