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Well no because a key part of the incident was the lower water levels from one failed water pump which is what caused the raft to get stuck in the first place. It was revealed that this same water pump failed days before the incident and the correct action was taken following its failure. And then it of course failed again which played a big part in the incident. It was also revealed that they ride operators weren’t notified of the water pump failure quick enough which a good safety system would do. If you’re referring to GL here then a full derailment was stopped from multiple contact points with the track and only the back chassis derailed and not the front of which the back is attached to. Also, another ride vehicle could’ve collided with the ride vehicle that got stuck as safety features would’ve prevented another ride vehicle entering that part of track as it wasn’t clear There were multiple contact points keeping the ride vehicle on track. Just because the second chassis derailed doesn’t mean the front chassis did too as that’s where the extra contact points were that kept the ride vehicle from completely derailing.

The footage you showed show that the wheels are under the queue line as they are in line with a support under the queue line. Basically explaining that the wheels did in fact not clear the queue line but fell before the queue line and bounced/rolled to where it ended up. Unless you somehow think it bounce/rolled backwards… Regarding the other part, that once again could’ve bounced that far from any spinning as it fell. Also the only quoting from a guest regarding the debris only states falling debris and not debris that is launched or going past guests. Do you not notice and understand that the rear chassis is attached to the front chassis? How can you not understand that this is why multiple contact points with the track was stated, because those contact points are in the front chassis… Also would’ve been related to what the rescuers were saying as to what saved guests.

Workplace Health and Safety's chief safety engineer Michael Chan literally commented on the accident months after the accident occurred. He confirmed “A bolted joint broke, causing one of the wheel assemblies to fall away from the car to the ground” and that the ride manufacturer - S&S confirmed this. It was further said “they (S&S) have under-designed the bolt” and that “The undercarriage has been strengthened and extra bolts added to prevent the same fault”. I’m struggling to see how you’re trying to argue against one of the actual workplace health and safety officers and the actual ride manufacturer who confirmed the failure and what they did to amend the failure. There is also no report supporting your statement of the steel that fell ever being at risk to guests. Furthermore, those who rescued the guests from the ride vehicle are the ones who stated that there were multiple bolts that kept the guests safe. Yk the people who were actually as close to the ride vehicle as you could get in the incident. The firefighters who were trained with Movieworld to rescue guests if the ride ever got stuck. Now you’ve argued against those who actually did the rescue and not just the workplace health and safety officers and the manufacturers of the ride. And yes I’m aware of the difference between a roller coaster with block sections and further safety features compared to a water ride. Regardless, TRRR should still have certain safety features/improvements, like at least having the emergency stop button in reach and actually alerting the ride operators urgently of a water pump failure and taking the appropriate action after the water pump also failed a few days before the fatal incident.

Workplace Health and Safety's chief safety engineer Michael Chan literally commented on the accident months after the accident occurred. He confirmed “A bolted joint broke, causing one of the wheel assemblies to fall away from the car to the ground” and that the ride manufacturer - S&S confirmed this. It was further said “they (S&S) have under-designed the bolt” and that “The undercarriage has been strengthened and extra bolts added to prevent the same fault”. I’m struggling to see how you’re trying to argue against one of the actual workplace health and safety officers and the actual ride manufacturer who confirmed the failure and what they did to amend the failure. There is also no report supporting your statement of the steel that fell ever being at risk to guests. Furthermore, those who rescued the guests from the ride vehicle are the ones who stated that there were multiple bolts that kept the guests safe. Yk the people who were actually as close to the ride vehicle as you could get in the incident. The firefighters who were trained with Movieworld to rescue guests if the ride ever got stuck. Now you’ve argued against those who actually did the rescue and not just the workplace health and safety officers and the manufacturers of the ride. And yes I’m aware of the difference between a roller coaster with block sections and further safety features compared to a water ride. Regardless, TRRR should still have certain safety features/improvements, like at least having the emergency stop button in reach and actually alerting the ride operators urgently of a water pump failure and taking the appropriate action after the water pump also failed a few days before the fatal incident.

That’s not the point. What derailed the ride vehicle was a bolt failure from a design flaw which caused one of the wheel assemblies to fall away. This isn’t enough for a full derailment due to the other bolts and the multiple attachment points to the track. All of which has been reported from the investigation. The safety features which I said prevented anything further from happening is the features that stopped the other ride vehicles. Aka it stopped the next ride vehicle that would’ve been coming behind it which would’ve caused a collision. So the bolt failure causing the wheel assembly to fall isn’t enough for a full derailment and the safety features prevented a collision which could cause way worse and maybe a full derailment. So no, it was not close to fatalities like what happened at dreamworld as we would’ve heard so from the investigation and the reports from that. What ultimately ended up causing the fatalities at dreamworld was another raft colliding into the raft that got stuck at the lift. There were no safety features to automatically stop the ride (shutting off the water pumps, stopping the lift etc) when the raft got stuck.

Yes but the rides safety features automatically prevented anything further from happening after the failure. TRRR didn’t have that, from memory, an emergency stop button had to be pressed by a ride operator but it was isolated and the operators were told not to use it

Bit of a silly comparison when Green Lantern isn’t capable of killing people all by itself from dangerous design… In regards to customer experience, I’ve had positive experiences, especially with their guest services so it’s really just down to everyone’s individual experience as it’s different to everyone. It can be bad and good. I’ve had both

I personally had dreamworld passes last year and when that ended I got the VRTP passes for this year. I always switch between the two. I much prefer the VRTP passes with the extra theme park included and for me, the operations have never affected me much. I’ve had instances at both DW and MW of long waits and whilst DW is typically better, the higher thrill rides at MW always make me prefer MW over DW. I also find that there are plenty of rides at MW that do have good ops, it’s just a few rides that happen to have abysmal ops…. That being said I typically go to theme parks with one other person and we are constantly looking at wait times and utilising single rider lines so we always get through the queues fairly quick and efficiently. This however isn’t the same for everyone who have to wait in the long lines and are with bigger groups. To put it simply, the experience is different for everyone and for me I’ll always prefer VRTP passes but I still love the DW passes. And for others it’s the opposite and makes complete sense.

That’s interesting. Considering the hate for the ride is solely down to its poor ride cycle and uptime, if these can be improved, aka, actually good ride cycle that isn’t limited and good uptime, I’d have no problem with it staying and would actually enjoy it

There are only sources, nothing confirmed and no source has cited where they got the figure from. But it still could very well be true, especially if the IP could have been a lot more than you’d think