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Exactly, that's why I was quite specific around "iconic intergenerational rides" and have separate lists for that. All guests can tangibly articulate the ride difference, and feel the fact that it's been gutted at an intangible yet experiential level. At six years and one day, I think we can lay the incident to bed as the actual reason why attendance suffers now. If anything, the incident lay bare an unsustainable business strategy (low CAPEX yield, lack of master planning for ride replacement and procurement, unsustainable OPEX and systems practices) and the current strategy of contracting the offering and plussing through non-attraction initiatives simply isn't resonating. 1/2 FY '20 for Ardent clearly shows that had the pandemic not occurred that a return to profitability would've happened that fiscal year. By extension, literally the rest of the entire global industry is doing pre-pandemic attendance and 40%+ per cap spend at the minimum. The issue isn't the people, because they're spending practically everywhere else but at Dreamworld. And I don't know how Village are giving away the gate when their prices are the highest on record now. Furthermore, Fright Nights is the most expensive one they've run by design - they're making a move on supply and demand to bring the feeling of oversold events down. Is this a reference to Viking's and Storm? I'm not sure which rides you're talking about. This is the thing though - people are voting with their wallets, and they'd rather Village's offering over Ardent's, perhaps now more then ever. But to be honest that's always been the case - the purchase ratio has always been somewhere around 1:4-2:5 - now I wonder if it's more like 1:5 though.

That’s fine to justify from an enthusiast’s perspective, and the average guest sees that list wildly differently which is reflected in the different micro-economic circumstances between Village and Ardent. Simply put - rider capacity doesn’t matter - people see multiple, multiple major iconic intergenerational rides closing and they’ve been replaced by, at best, two rides. Over the other side of the road, the experience doesn’t “feel” gutted. And by extension, whatever rides or experiences that have closed have generally been either directly replaced or plussed elsewhere. Easy to see then why one park is struggling to meet capacity and why the other is constantly receiving “praise” for having such short queue lines.

This is my list: Closed Attractions & Experiences as of 25th October, 2016 Thunder River Rapids Eureka Mountain Mine Ride Wipeout Kevil Hill Flowrider Corroboree Woolshed Buzzsaw Tower of Terror Old Time Photos Big Red Car Wildlife Nocturnal House Rocky Hollow Log Ride Dreamworld Cinema Giggle & Hoot Kid’s Ride Dreamworld Parkway Bakery Boost Juice Big Brother Cafe Rivertown Restaurant Billabong Restaurant Parkway Cafe Sky Voyager Shop Peter Brock’s Garage V8 SuperCars Redline Big Brother House Dreamworld Amphitheatre Play School Art Room Trolls Village ———— Ride/Attractions Opened as of 25th October, 2016 Sky Voyager LEGO Store Play School Wheel Steel Taipan Fully6 Ride/Attractions Closed as of 25th October, 2016 Thunder River Rapids Mine Ride Dreamworld Cinema Wipeout Flowrider Buzzsaw Tower of Terror Log Flume Giggle & Hoot Hop Ride Big Red Car Ride

I reckon so.

Both technologies do that - you’re showing a video of a rollback which is an anomaly in regular operations. Arguably, if one emergency system can remove energy sooner than another, then by definition it is a safer system.

So because one ride technology fails more safely it’s a complete failure?

Top Thrill Dragster had roll backs, too. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Virtually exactly where Doomsday is today. Now it’s over to the left of Wild West Falls’ final turn into the station.

I'll back what others are saying - is high-end theming these days really a couple of rock waterfalls and a No-Limits generic station? Because that's not Disney-level theming or world-class by any stretch. If you were to take concept art that literally, you'd then assume that everyone on the star flyer is going to get a 5m tall enema every time the ride comes into the station. Concept art is generally always a bit ambitious, take the Skyneedle Apartment concept art in South Brisbane: Ambitious, iconic, stunning, really quite amazing. But in reality, it's just another apartment block. Point is, especially with the pandemic, things have changed. Vortex sucks, and I think even Village will admit that, and it looks like they've learnt from that and are now doing some really interesting stuff that's worthy of attention. It won't be Disney-level quality (and nor was it ever intended to be), but I reckon it'll be really solid.

Here's the website if anyone wants to take a look at the rest of their work - https://www.makmax.com.au/project/sea-world-leviathan/

Why May 2023 specifically? As others have said, even those with business degrees or profitable businesses aren't inherently great business people. Disney is posting great profits, but a lot of people think Bob Chapek is a sub-par CEO. Putting aside whether or not this particular business owner is a great operator or not, the macroeconomics of a Disneyland in Adelaide simply don't add up. Maybe in Sydney or Brisbane, but serious state government assistance would be required.

Instead of pointlessly speculating (and it is at that point) just give the park a buzz if you want to know.

Literally Cyclone for the longest time. Still might be the case, not sure what the case is with the Vekoma train.

The biggest complaint from Fright Nights 2019 was that unless you used Fast Track or other up-sells to skip the queues you'd likely not get to all the mazes in one night. If the premise behind the price increase is to lower demand to meet supply and in doing so ensure that most people get to have an enjoyable night then i'm all for it - guess we'll see.

Huh - that's strange, why do you reckon that is @Gazza?

I'll happily eat my words on this one - this is some bizarre stuff we're seeing. 🤪

Don't shift the goal posts. The point was demonstrating that basing any assumptions on analysis of technology that's more than twelve months old isn't going to give you reliable results, especially if you're using it to correlate wild assumptions. Appreciate you doing the math.

To be fair you’re loading in a lot of assumptions to reach that conclusion, including an assumption that somehow Red Force tried and failed to beat Dragster (the reality is Port Aventura wanted to have Europe’s tallest and fastest coaster, and Intamin designed a solution that achieved those specs). Comparing modern LIMs to Tower of Terror’s LSMs, they use roughly a third the electrical input for twice the kinetic force output. That’s not bad for two decades of innovation, and I’m sure it’s continued to mature over time too.

Keep in mind that most major OEMs often get components from the same suppliers and not 100% of every ride is built from scratch from that OEM. With that in mind, launch tech has come a long way since Tower of Terror (even between the first Blue Fire and our one), and there’s been notable gains in regards to efficiency from multiple fronts. Therefore it wouldn’t surprise me at this point if the hardware has matured enough to do a 1:1 replacement of the hydraulic launch without too much additional work needed. Could be wrong though, could be sick to see a multi-launch dragster with a reverse spike.

Interesting to sea Disney starting to test the waters in Australia.

In the times I've seen Cyclone/Hot Wheels/Gold Coaster/the artist formerly known as Big Dipper valley pre side-winder element, it's usually a five to ten day turn-around to get the train off the track and reset. Keep in mind a few things: Cyclone ft. all the other names valleys at a similarly tricky spot which is also higher (not that the height difference matters, both spots are reasonably close to the ground). There's two trains, so all they need to do is get the train off to get the ride running again. I highly doubt it take six days to source a crane. Mack Rides don't do pull throughs, so taking the train off is the only choice. It doesn't take six days for Mack to return calls, nor is it an unknown unknown where both Mack or Movie World have no insights on next steps. To me it appears as though someone's dragging their feet on rectifying this.

In a way it shows how incompetent our local journalists have become - they all drove past a valleyed roller-coaster that was in plain sight to cover a news story about another valleyed roller-coaster that they had no chance of seeing. Even the language I saw being used was clearly heightened to get clicks - “rescue”, “trapped”, “stuck,” “movie world blames guest” - like give me a god damn break.

Does it though?

Looks like it was guest related. https://www.facebook.com/movieworldgoldcoast/photos/a.452895337181/10159429107652182/ Side tangent - why say high zone? Do many people who aren't niche enthusiasts or staff know what that is? It's up there with precinct for me when it comes to words normal everyday guests shouldn't hear.

What was the skateboard ride?