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There's some newer pics on the Mitty theme parks FB page too https://www.facebook.com/mittythemeparks/

Possibly a little cheaper, but not the point where it becomes affordable if taking the majors. Most of the cost is going to be the construction, not the design. See something like Riddlers, that's definitely workable, but Batman Knight Flight or the Abu Dhabi version of JL, probably not. In terms of trackless, Big Red Car was trackless, but currently operating Kindgom Quest at Legoland Discovery Center Melbourne is trackless.

An interesting thing I heard once is that no clone is truly a clone. Any attraction is naturally shaped by the regulations and building codes for where it is originally planned. So when a clone is built, its never truly identical since everything has to be tweaked. You might find fire exits in one place Don't work in another. Structural calculations might be different. Local materials available. Electrical standards etc. It might make things easier in terms of being able to skip over concept and schematic design and go straight to DD and CD. There might be some small savings, but the idea that you're going to get a 30m Abu Dhabi ride (built by Bangladeshi labourers) for 20m in Aus through "savings" is a bit of a stretch to day the least. For media, you would save time on the development, but the content creator is still going to charge you money for it because its their IP.

Thanks, every time this thread gets bumped I feel compelled to watch that video again.

Come on man, You kept going on about fire when the width nor height of the wwf lift tunnel is clearly not 3m in any dimension to allow it to be a safe distance away. There’s no doubt fire on rides is possible, but its not possible to jam it into a tight spot that was never built for it. See with escape from pompei, the sets themselves are at least 4 or 5m high and then the black space above means the show building is even higher and they have space for the ducts necessary for heat extraction when you have fire going off for an entire operating day in an enclosed space, not just at random times during an 80 min outdoor NRL game. I’m guessing you’re going to come back and say “Yeah but they could just rebuild the lift tunnel to be bigger and made out of fire proof concrete and add air ducts” which if of course is possible but not affordable.

Really?

Lmao! I like this version of the hotel though, gives me big Crown vibes, though the pool needs some water slides. The height is crazy though taller than DCR, it's almost a Giga hotel.

Yeah but you can see from google earth that the entire lift tunnel is 5.5m so therefore it's not possible to be 3m away on either side so you shouldn't have suggested it.

Though the release says “One of our brand new rides The Leviathan” Where does it mention Trident is available?

But at the NRL you aren't sitting in a tunnel (It's open air), And also on WWF I dont think there is 3m of spare space to the side of the lift hill to meet the " 1 meter vertical and 3 meters laterally" standard @Dean Barnett ?

Skara Sommarland 17th of July The day after I went to Tusenfryd I went to Skara Sommarland. The park is about 120km east of Gothenburg (Where Liseberg is located) https://www.parkz.com.au/attraction/skara-sommarland This park was sort of a 50-50 for me in terms of dedicating holiday time. The main reason to go here to to try Tranan, the worlds only S&S Free Fly coaster, but the park also has a few cool Proslides too, so i decided to give it a few hours. Wouldn’t necessarily be for everyone. I didn't actually do a whole lot here, most of the rides are fairly generic, but still there was enough to keep me busy. To get here you can get a train to Skovde (From Gothenburg) and then a bus to the park. Sweden actually has good buses. You’ll see coaches that form part of the local transport system and covered under the same fares that supplement the normal urban buses, and they run at a usable frequency, eg about every hour. Only hiccup was the day was a Sunday, so trains start later, and I could only get to the park about an hour after opening. Not that it was really a problem. First impressions is that the place reminded me of a bigger version of Adventure park geelong, lots of open lawns and picnic areas, a few lakes, with a smattering of amusement rides and water slides. They also had cable water skiing and some go kart tracks, so its definitely more amusement park than theme park. The presentation was ok, they’ve done up some parts, but it still feels like an older park. I started off with Spinner. This is a Maurer spinning coaster back before they produced the XC2000 with its overbanked turns and cool stuff. It’s more like a normal wild mouse, but lacking any sort of steep drops. Good bit of spinning, but otherwise nothing to write home about. Up next was Tranan. I’m glad I got to ride it since I don’t think another one will ever be built, except maybe if a random park in China decides it wants one. The gimmick is that its kind of like a wing coaster, but the seats stay level like on a suspended coaster / 7 dwarves mine train, so the track can do twists and run inverted or upright, and the cars themselves never go upside down. In particular the twists are interesting because one side of the car goes ‘over the top’ and the other sweeps underneath. You sit in shallow seats with a seat belt that locks electronically. Overall, it’s “okay” Temporarily delving into some physics, but because the seats are so far off the heartline of the coaster, it makes some of the sensations of the ride feel a bit weird and awkward, rather than the “free fly” it purports to be. You imagine the car going around a corner at a certain speed. The seats on the outside are going around a wider radius, so go ‘faster’, and likewise the seats on the inside follow a smaller radius and go ‘slower’. Its a bit like when you are on a classic Whip ride and get that jerk of acceleration when you go around the pulley at the end. So because of this you feel lurching like the train is hitting a brake, or accelerating suddenly whenever you reach a turn, and the swinging car is a bit wobbly. The layout is a few back to back turns and a couple of twists, so you well and truly can experience what the ride can do. For example see this pic of the first drop. Immediatley after coming off the first drop you feel like you slow down straight away in the inside seats because its almost like you are pivoting and turning on the spot. The outside on the other hand feels way faster. So its still fun, an interesting gimmick and mechanically impressive, but doesn’t necessarily result in an enhanced ride experience. Temper your expectations I got changed and headed into the water park. Yep you heard right, there’s an outdoor seasonal water park in a place with a harsh snowy winter, so it makes it even more laughable when people said Melbourne was too cold for water parks. The water was heated, but it still felt a teensy bit cool. They had a nice cloakroom rather than lockers which was a godsend considering i had my luggage. They had a couple of those old school concrete slides (Like Mountain Rapids at AW or Krakatoas at Blue Lagoon) Quite lengthy and interesting, with a few bumps and pools. Big Drop is a trap door freefall slide, but was interesting in that it went through an underground tunnel. I like freefall slides so another winner. The Snakepit is a group of 3 generic proslide bodyslides. Proslide put a fair bit of kick into these, and they are pretty darn intense, particularly the green enclosed one. The Racer is a 4 lane racer, A bit of a hold up at the top when a little kid freaked out when confronted with the view from the top and the prospect of riding head first, and then the Dad tried to convince the kid to go. Sheesh if the kid doesn’t want to go, then don’t waste time upsetting them by trying to force it. Good air on the dips by employing professional riding methods. There was a Tornado Wave called Cobra but skipped that one. The other one I wanted to try was Waka Waka, a really long raft slide with 4 of those proslide flying Saucer Elements. They are totally a gimmick of course since all they do is provide a slightly nicer view out of the slide on the turns, but overall it’s still an objectively good slide due to the ballistic pacing and force you get on the back to back turns. And it’s looooong. I was done with the water park so grabbed a bite at the water park cafe and headed back into the dry park. The queues on Tranan had dropped off so I did a couple more goes on that to cement my opinions on it and make the most of what would likely be my only time to ever ride it. They also had Snake. I love these high speed booster flat rides, but this one was spiced up with an additional arm that makes the circular rotation more irregular, so sometimes you do a big circle, and sometimes an extra tight one with some force. At only 8 per cycle the queue moved a bit slow, but I got some relief when they called for a single rider. Had a stroll around and looked at the rest of the park. The last coaster was Gruvbanan, a mack powered coaster. The coaster is about 3 helices and some turns. One of the helices is in a big shed but it doesn’t really make it dark inside. The ride is built on a mound, with the queue cutting through in a trench underneath, so you walk through a long gold mine to reach the station, so points for them making that effort. With time to kill till the next bus I did another lap on Spinner and a couple more on Tranan since it was down to a walk on at this point. So overall, the park is pleasant enough, but I would only really bother if you are uber curious about Tranan. Otherwise, it’s nothing you wouldn’t have seen before. Check out all the photos here: https://www.parkz.com.au/search/photos/location/skara-sommarland

It is indeed about diving hence the logo (Not really about a tall standing penguin) It totally gives me the vibe that someone at the park got stuck on the idea of diving penguins and this is what we ended up with (2:15) At the time I thought it was a kind of cute idea but at the same time a penguin is not quite badass enough for a thrill ride IMO. Pretty much lol. No station building, and gravel below the ride.

Do they have magic bikes yet? That's my first guess

For the Dive Coaster I think it's meant to be like a deep diving penguin, and with Mako I believe it's the fastest shark in the world. But SW overall seem to have really dialled back their theming (Manta at SWSD was perhaps the last) Ice breaker for example I was hoping for more of a port theme with the train dodging icebergs. Pipeline looks good, I've never understood the hate for standups.... just so long as you dont get a nutshot from the bouncing harness. For the announcement trailer, why did they do really dramatic music and not fun Californian surf guitar?

How's Trident looking in terms of progress though? I get the impression that they will probably open that at the same time and just be done with the area.

Lol what a generalisation. The maintenance of a ride is different to the operation of a single rider queue. If the screens aren't working, then that needs deliberate attention by the staff. If you get a few trains in a row where it's all even numbers, that's not the fault of the park. It could very easily be a bunch of odds. I've been there when 3 or so singles went on the one train. That was good luck. Re 4 across B&Ms, curious about the difference? If you have a party of 3, then they'll want to sit in the same car, so it doesn't really matter if it's 2X2 or 4X1 seating right?

But stuff sorts itself out. If the single rider queue gets too long, people should just leave it and join the main queue. There's no real obligation to 'keep it moving' because everyone using it knows full well it's entirely down to the luck of single seats becoming available, and staff don't control that, nor should they. Did you wait less time than the main queue? If its 2 seats every train, you're making guests in the regular queue wait longer for no good reason since that's 9% of capacity now gone. At other parks however the entry host sometimes just closes the SRQ if it gets too full.

Nooope that's not the point of a single rider queue. The idea is that it CAN reduce your wait, but it's entirely luck of the draw, and it could even be as long a wait as the main queue. If it was known that they grabbed 2 guests at a time, then pairs (or even singles) would just treat it as their personal VIP line. It would annoy pairs waiting in the main queue if 2 people were grabbed from the singles queue to go in front of them.

I'm guessing they worship it or it lives there.

Not literally a Toy story RC racer. I mean a 16 seater car with forward facing seating. The actual theme of the chassis can be whatever would suit WBMWs intentions

What if the vehicle was changed to be more like RC racer seen in the Toy Story areas at the various Disney parks? Still, it has a 1.2m height limit if that were to happen.

For what its worth, here's what I paid for Tokyo December 2019 $196 AUD roughly.

Jaysus! I was wondering how you got it to add up to that, but yep, 2 day park hopper with genie plus (yep you pretty much have to suck that up since they took away free fastpass)

Basically, in some places they just use blocks of foam with hard coat and paint, and after a while it can look like this: (The yellow is the raw fibreglass) But for decent outdoor rock its chickenwire and mesh, and done with actual concrete and grout. This can last as long as anything else you'd make of concrete. The sea world stuff looks like the latter.

I mean, certainly judge a ride on the ride experience, but rating rides on how they behave during faults is just nitpicking imo. 99.9% of guests will probably never get a rollback.