Tricoart Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) On 29/11/2023 at 9:45 PM, DaptoFunlandGuy said: Given the timeslots, i'd say the early morning would be the in-park shots, and the middle of the day slot would be the soundstage filming. Expand Did both, & pretty much. Also went on Batwing for an aerial view of the construction, and there’s some more concrete/footers poured since the recent photo, as well as a couple stockpiles of what looked to be rebar, but didn’t see any supports/track onsite as of yet. Still, it’s noticeably getting closer & closer to that point. Edited November 30, 2023 by Tricoart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphix Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Are you serious, is one of the coasters a copy of TNT at GBW. Its like the 90s with the portable metropolis coasters that can travel around to show grounds. I will say I rode TNT last month, and not sure If I'm not used to the feeling of coaster recently but the first 5 seconds is really good the rest is a sunday drive. I loved the EX dreamworld coaster, pretty thrilling, got a extra drop due to break not catching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBoy Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) On 30/11/2023 at 12:15 PM, Morphix said: Are you serious, is one of the coasters a copy of TNT at GBW. Expand Yes it is, both are the Vekoma SFC450 model. Edited November 30, 2023 by TBoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad2912 Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 30/11/2023 at 12:15 PM, Morphix said: got a extra drop due to break not catching Expand Brake. And unlikely it spontaneously didn’t catch, and if so, would likely result in some decent downtime to establish how/why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphix Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 I observed up to one in ten runs would get a 3rd backwards freefall, usually it catches on the 2nd run and slowly sends the train back to base. Not sure if its really a issue, seems weight related and how far the train falls back up the track after the first pass through the loading area. Thought it was awesome ride can't imagine why dreamworld booted it maybe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad2912 Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 30/11/2023 at 12:26 PM, Morphix said: Thought it was awesome ride can't imagine why dreamworld booted it Expand Because it was a maintenance drag and when open wasn’t overly popular, and it also stood in the way of ST’s plot and visual amenity from the carpark/motorway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivals Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 30/11/2023 at 12:21 PM, Brad2912 said: unlikely it spontaneously didn’t catch, and if so, would likely result in some decent downtime to establish how/why Expand i’ve noticed in some videos you can hear the rides brakes engaging as the trains heading towards them but the train doesn’t actually catch on, so it goes backwards back down the tower so it can make its way back up to be caught at a lower position. from what i’ve heard it’s not that uncommon. did the ride ever do this at Dreamworld? i wonder why it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagician Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 30/11/2023 at 12:15 PM, Morphix said: Are you serious, is one of the coasters a copy of TNT at GBW. Expand I don't think it's necessairly a bad thing though. I think Gumbuya did a great job with TNT. Theme, story and presentation has been executed very well. So it should make want VRTP to step things up a little and make their version 'world class'. But from Gumbuya's perspective, it should make them feel like they are able to compete with the Gold Coast parks despite them being a (regional?) theme park in Victoria. We see copies of attractions all of the world, there are small parks that will have the same/similar attractions as the big guys (Disney, Universal, etc), but the difference is they step it up and take theming and story to a whole new level, which is what makes it a better experience. On 30/11/2023 at 12:26 PM, Morphix said: Thought it was awesome ride can't imagine why dreamworld booted it Expand Because it was a poor choice of ride and was originally picked without much thought, but was a way to boost attraction (and thrill ride) count up to compete with the guys down the road. Long term that thought process back fired and ended up costing the park way too much to operate/maintain, hence why they sold it off. And attraction like this is why the current management take a lot more care in selecting attractions and who is the manufacturer of that attraction. They did a lot of culling, which has hit hard on their overall attraction count. But eventually we should start to see that number increase to make the park feel more complete once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaptoFunlandGuy Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Yeah we've known it was going to be a clone of TNT for quite some time now. Reality is they operate in different markets. Six Flags used to be like 4 of the same ride and chuck them down all over the US (and move them again in a few years to build a 'new' attraction elsewhere) but it's not as if it's Dreamworld and Movie World building the exact same ride. The GC and Gumbuya are far enough away from each other that the two markets will have little crossover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBoy Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 30/11/2023 at 10:20 PM, DaptoFunlandGuy said: The GC and Gumbuya are far enough away from each other that the two markets will have little crossover. Expand I agree. I don’t see a problem with cloned coasters, and it’s not like it is the worst here. In the US there is cloned coasters in the same states. An example in Florida is Barnstormer and Woody/Trollercoaster at Magic Kingdom/Universal Studios are the same coaster, the only difference is that they are mirrored. Same as FOTH and the Dragon Coaster at IOA/Legoland, except the latter has a dark ride section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaptoFunlandGuy Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 Nearmap says this shot is from 13th of November, but I posted an update around November 20th that showed the 13th of November and it was a lot less than what you see below. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baconjack Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 (edited) Trademark filings have been made for the names of the WOO coasters. Kansas Twister for the family boomerangs and Flight of the Wicked Witch for the suspended family coaster presumably https://search.ipaustralia.gov.au/trademarks/search/view/2411823?s=066cfa98-d7a1-4526-a4ee-6f069d7b2f33&p=2 https://search.ipaustralia.gov.au/trademarks/search/view/2411822?s=066cfa98-d7a1-4526-a4ee-6f069d7b2f33&p=2 Edited January 18 by Baconjack 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New display name Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 (edited) Presumably the is for MW too. Edited January 18 by New display name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baconjack Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 On 18/01/2024 at 1:59 AM, New display name said: Presumably the is for MW also. Expand Warner bros owns the trademark for movie world itself so yep so I’d say it’s under a similar arrangement in this case, the categories it is filed in seem to match up as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New display name Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 (edited) You heard it here first. MW getting slot machines. Credit to @Baconjack 😂 Edited January 18 by New display name 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR4ZE Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 Assuming these are indeed for the coasters, I really like both names. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New display name Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 I might get some Flight Of the Wicked Witch lingerie for the wife. 👀 Baby bibs to lingerie, looks like they have covered it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricoart Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 (edited) On 18/01/2024 at 6:42 AM, New display name said: I might get some Flight Of the Wicked Witch lingerie for the wife. 👀 Baby bibs to lingerie, looks like they have covered it all. Expand When filing trademarks, they’re not just done in regards to specific, intentional items, they’re done based upon broader categories (or, in that case, ‘classes’). Further text is just listing examples of things that’d fall under the given category, for clarity’s sake. Same reason they’re both covered for a class that predominantly mentions educational materials, sports, and video games, as that’s the class which amusement park services fall under. On 18/01/2024 at 6:14 AM, CR4ZE said: Assuming these are indeed for the coasters, I really like both names. Expand ‘Flight of the Wicked Witch’ is iffy IMO, but the boomerang’s name couldn’t really be any better than that. In some ways, though, i’m more interested in seeing how ‘KT’ (assumedly) ends up than I am with ‘FotWW’, so that may just be carrying over into their names. Edited January 18 by Tricoart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 Will be cool having FWW and WWF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaptoFunlandGuy Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 On 18/01/2024 at 4:27 PM, Tricoart said: When filing trademarks, they’re not just done in regards to specific, intentional items, they’re done based upon broader categories (or, in that case, ‘classes’). Further text is just listing examples of things that’d fall under the given category, for clarity’s sake. Same reason they’re both covered for a class that predominantly mentions educational materials, sports, and video games, as that’s the class which amusement park services fall under. Expand You don't say? On 18/01/2024 at 8:18 PM, Gazza said: Will be cool having FWW and WWF. Expand The Outrage! Dyslexics Untie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New display name Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 (edited) On 18/01/2024 at 4:27 PM, Tricoart said: When filing trademarks, they’re not just done in regards to specific, intentional items, they’re done based upon broader categories (or, in that case, ‘classes’). Further text is just listing examples of things that’d fall under the given category, for clarity’s sake. Same reason they’re both covered for a class that predominantly mentions educational materials, sports, and video games, as that’s the class which amusement park services fall under. Expand OMG, you should do some research before you try and school somebody. You are charged per item you wish to trademark, so nobody is picking everything within a class. Select the items that apply to your business Once you've chosen the class for your trade mark, you still have to select the appropriate items within that class. Classes are broad, so you must further specify the items in that class you wish to protect. Then your application will only apply to those items. Example You produce acrylic false nails. You use the pick list and find out that you should choose Class 3 to protect your brand. You tick the item acrylic false nails. But there are dozens of other items in Class 3 including aerosol hairspray and carpet shampoos. Don’t tick those items. You're specifically choosing to apply your trade mark to Class 3 acrylic false nails, not all of the others. (from trademark Australia application form help files) Example: SKY VOYAGER Class 25: Apparel (clothing, footwear, headgear); Clothing; Baseball caps; Sports caps; Caps being headwear; Polo shirts; Printed t-shirts; Sports shirts; T-shirts FLIGHT OF THE WICKED WITCH Class 25: Clothing, footwear, and headgear for men, women and children - namely, shirts, t-shirts, sweatshirts, jogging suits, trousers, pants, shorts, tank tops, rainwear, cloth baby bibs, plastic bibs, skirts, blouses, dresses, suspenders, sweaters, hoodies, jackets, coats, raincoats, snow suits, ties, robes, hats, caps, sun visors, belts, scarves, sleepwear, pajamas, lingerie, underwear, boots, shoes, sneakers, sandals, socks, booties, slipper socks; swimwear; masquerade and Halloween costumes; paper hats (side note, People also use trade marks to stop people from hurting their brand. Example: Turner Entertainment Co. may have no intention to sell Wicked Witch lingerie but they also don't want other companies selling it). Edited January 18 by New display name 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Jeffery Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 On 18/01/2024 at 6:42 AM, New display name said: I might get some Flight Of the Wicked Witch lingerie for the wife. 👀 Baby bibs to lingerie, looks like they have covered it all. Expand Does she melt if she gets too wet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New display name Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 (edited) On 18/01/2024 at 8:18 PM, Gazza said: Will be cool having FWW and WWF. Expand Nice pickup, but I think your definition of cool is different from mine. 😬 Edited January 19 by New display name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricoart Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 On 18/01/2024 at 11:36 PM, New display name said: OMG, you should do some research before you try and school somebody. You are charged per item you wish to trademark, so nobody is picking everything within a class. Select the items that apply to your business Once you've chosen the class for your trade mark, you still have to select the appropriate items within that class. Classes are broad, so you must further specify the items in that class you wish to protect. Then your application will only apply to those items. Example You produce acrylic false nails. You use the pick list and find out that you should choose Class 3 to protect your brand. You tick the item acrylic false nails. But there are dozens of other items in Class 3 including aerosol hairspray and carpet shampoos. Don’t tick those items. You're specifically choosing to apply your trade mark to Class 3 acrylic false nails, not all of the others. (from trademark Australia application form help files) Example: SKY VOYAGER Class 25: Apparel (clothing, footwear, headgear); Clothing; Baseball caps; Sports caps; Caps being headwear; Polo shirts; Printed t-shirts; Sports shirts; T-shirts FLIGHT OF THE WICKED WITCH Class 25: Clothing, footwear, and headgear for men, women and children - namely, shirts, t-shirts, sweatshirts, jogging suits, trousers, pants, shorts, tank tops, rainwear, cloth baby bibs, plastic bibs, skirts, blouses, dresses, suspenders, sweaters, hoodies, jackets, coats, raincoats, snow suits, ties, robes, hats, caps, sun visors, belts, scarves, sleepwear, pajamas, lingerie, underwear, boots, shoes, sneakers, sandals, socks, booties, slipper socks; swimwear; masquerade and Halloween costumes; paper hats (side note, People also use trade marks to stop people from hurting their brand. Example: Turner Entertainment Co. may have no intention to sell Wicked Witch lingerie but they also don't want other companies selling it). Expand Huh, cool. Guess they just ticked ‘em all off for the same reason I said, instead of just default having them. Learn something new, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New display name Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 On 19/01/2024 at 2:15 AM, Tricoart said: Huh, cool. Guess they just ticked ‘em all off for the same reason I said, instead of just default having them. Learn something new, etc. Expand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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