Jungle Rush Coaster

[BNErider]

I'm no horticultural expert, but I hope we see some greenery that is not the same low maintenance, boring plants we see planted at any new commercial development. I want it to feel like I'm in the jungle.

[HarryHeHe8]

22 minutes ago, BNErider said:

I'm no horticultural expert, but I hope we see some greenery that is not the same low maintenance, boring plants we see planted at any new commercial development. I want it to feel like I'm in the jungle.

Me too. The old Rivertown and Gum Tree Gully (at least from the pictures I have seen), felt quite real, and it was covered in trees and other greenery. That kind of theming is what I reckon will happen, seeing as they spent so much on it already, I see no reason to spend a little extra to avoid it looking crappy.

[themagician]

1 hour ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

i don't see any hint of vintage car tracking yet

I’d imagine they’re waiting to do that as late as possible so it doesn’t get damaged while moving heavy machinery around the site. Surely a simple guide rail can be installed within a few days?

[jjuttup]

3 minutes ago, themagician said:

I’d imagine they’re waiting to do that as late as possible so it doesn’t get damaged while moving heavy machinery around the site. Surely a simple guide rail can be installed within a few days?

If its unpowered, i'd say 2 days tops if they take their time. Otherwise if it's powered, 5.

 

Pull it in, line it up, mason drill, bolt, move on.

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

1 hour ago, BNErider said:

I want it to feel like I'm in the jungle.

I understand the sentiment, but the choices you have are:

1. Plant and wait for it to 'grow in' while opening the ride as soon as it is ready (the apparent JR method)
2. Plant and wait for it to 'grow in' and don't open the ride until the true jungle feel is ready (your preferred method but probably a bit of a poor expectation)
3. landscape with fake plants to achieve the desired look on day one (the WOZ method)

 

And before anyone gets uppity about my comments towards WOZ - the movie was all done on soundstages with fake everything. the "fake" landscaping in WOZ's case is preferred because that is true to the film and is a legit option for this style of theme. JR could have gone down that route, but most of the concept and promo material we've been shown has been live, deep planting, so that's what i'm expecting.

[Gazza]

You forgot:

4. Have mature plants offsite and plant prior to opening, without the need to grow in.

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

I didn't forget it, I was ignoring it as an option for the budget conscious. There's been lots of discussion lately about the park doing things to minimise additional \ unnecessary expenses. So I didn't really consider that mature plants would be an option as they tend to cost a lot more to purchase, transport and install.

[Jokes_on_you]

Although, they did use fake plastic trees and plants in their train reveal post 🌴 

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

Those were fake? I thought they were just pot plants.

[Tricoart]

22 minutes ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

I thought they were just pot plants.

Nah, they’re still illegal in QLD (and likely all reserved for VRTP execs anyway).

[Gazza]

3 hours ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

I didn't forget it, I was ignoring it as an option for the budget conscious. There's been lots of discussion lately about the park doing things to minimise additional \ unnecessary expenses. So I didn't really consider that mature plants would be an option as they tend to cost a lot more to purchase, transport and install.

You can buy them them cheaper when smaller, store them, look after them, let them grow for a few months and then plant when ready.

[Ashley Jeffery]

31 minutes ago, Tricoart said:

Nah, they’re still illegal in QLD (and likely all reserved for VRTP execs anyway).

ACT politicians 

[New display name]

40 minutes ago, Gazza said:

You can buy them them cheaper when smaller, store them, look after them, let them grow for a few months and then plant when ready.

DW already employ a horticulturalist, it wouldn't be hard for DW to do this on site.

[Jokes_on_you]

2 hours ago, Tricoart said:

Nah, they’re still illegal in QLD (and likely all reserved for VRTP execs anyway).

Can’t we have a conversation/thread that doesn’t take swipes/insult/accuse people directly? I get you have an issue with VRTP, but you don’t need to make it personal against anyone…

[Tricoart]

17 minutes ago, Jokes_on_you said:

Can’t we have a conversation/thread that doesn’t take swipes/insult/accuse people directly? I get you have an issue with VRTP, but you don’t need to make it personal against anyone…

I'm sorry you don't like my off-hand joke towards a private equity firm & their well-discussed decisions. Anyway,

2 hours ago, Gazza said:

You can buy them them cheaper when smaller, store them, look after them, let them grow for a few months and then plant when ready.

Most of the plants put in so far seem to be ground layer, so significant growth pre-install wouldn't really be too necessary (iirc, they did the same for the small amount of greenery nearby Steel Taipan, and Sea World's recently done the same for their pathway). If/when larger plants come in, I have hope that they'll be planted with enough growth to not be literal saplings upon Rivertown's open.

Edited November 12 by Tricoart

[ShakeShack]

13 minutes ago, Jokes_on_you said:

Can’t we have a conversation/thread that doesn’t take swipes/insult/accuse people directly? I get you have an issue with VRTP, but you don’t need to make it personal against anyone…

I don't think he/she is physically capable of such restraint.

[Michelangelo]

10 hours ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

I understand the sentiment, but the choices you have are:

1. Plant and wait for it to 'grow in' while opening the ride as soon as it is ready (the apparent JR method)
2. Plant and wait for it to 'grow in' and don't open the ride until the true jungle feel is ready (your preferred method but probably a bit of a poor expectation)
3. landscape with fake plants to achieve the desired look on day one (the WOZ method)

 

And before anyone gets uppity about my comments towards WOZ - the movie was all done on soundstages with fake everything. the "fake" landscaping in WOZ's case is preferred because that is true to the film and is a legit option for this style of theme. JR could have gone down that route, but most of the concept and promo material we've been shown has been live, deep planting, so that's what i'm expecting.

I get the 3 options, but Greg did promise time and time again this would be the most immersive land built by Dreamworld ever… to me that sets the expectation that you’d be fully immersed in a jungle from day one.

Even their website says “Rivertown is the immersive, jungle-themed precinct“ so I hope they really hit the mark on that and they’re just layering the foliage to begin with. 

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

11 hours ago, Michelangelo said:

I get the 3 options, but Greg did promise time and time again this would be the most immersive land built by Dreamworld ever… to me that sets the expectation that you’d be fully immersed in a jungle from day one.

One would think given the many claims of puffery made by both parks over the years that you'd be managing your expectations a bit better. Given the qualifier 'built by dreamworld ever' the bar isn't set as high as you think. 

I do hope they do more, but i'm not expecting lush tropical jungle on day one.

[ShakeShack]

12 hours ago, Michelangelo said:

landscape with fake plants to achieve the desired look on day one (the WOZ method)

Besides the corn, where are the fake plants at Oz?

[jjuttup]

1 minute ago, ShakeShack said:

Besides the corn, where are the fake plants at Oz?

Inside i'd say.

[Naazon]

15 hours ago, Tricoart said:

I'm sorry you don't like my off-hand joke towards a private equity firm & their well-discussed decisions. Anyway,

it was a shit joke that added nothing to this thread.

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

54 minutes ago, ShakeShack said:

Besides the corn, where are the fake plants at Oz?

The words were mine, not @Michelangelo's - and there's more to the post

23 hours ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

 

3. landscape with fake plants to achieve the desired look on day one (the WOZ method)

 

And before anyone gets uppity about my comments towards WOZ - the movie was all done on soundstages with fake everything. the "fake" landscaping in WOZ's case is preferred because that is true to the film and is a legit option for this style of theme. JR could have gone down that route, but most of the concept and promo material we've been shown has been live, deep planting, so that's what i'm expecting.

I can only comment on what i've seen - which has mostly been the corn. if there's also real plants then bully for them - I was describing different methods, it wasn't a slight against Village's chosen theme. Nobody would have expected them to grow real corn all year round...

[Baconjack]

On 12/11/2024 at 9:18 AM, BNErider said:

I'm no horticultural expert, but I hope we see some greenery that is not the same low maintenance, boring plants we see planted at any new commercial development. I want it to feel like I'm in the jungle.

Wait a few years for the plants to grow then you’ll take this back. 

I have always maintained that rivertown as a theme will look better in 3-4 years time than on opening day. Every park known to man looks barren on day one then the plants grow and provide natural shade. Everything will look better with a bit of weathering.

I think it’s a bit of a silly expectation for an Australian park to install mature plants in a new build area considering how expensive it is to do so.

[themagician]

On 12/11/2024 at 10:36 AM, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

landscape with fake plants to achieve the desired look on day one (the WOZ method)

Also the method for New Atlantis and Village claimed it was a world class precinct

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

48 minutes ago, themagician said:

Also the method for New Atlantis and Village claimed it was a world class precinct

Look, puffery aside, the use of fake plants isn't a negative and that wasn't the intention of me including it as an option in my post. There are both a time and a place where it's the right choice for the install. 

Nobody wants real ivy crawling all over the wooden rollercoaster, potentially degrading the timber, making it harder to inspect, and also potentially false triggering safety sensors causing shutdowns. There's plenty of real plants in use within Atlantis (and they also weren't all mature and grown in on opening day either).