The New Atlantis - Reviews & Reactions

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

2 hours ago, Dean Barnett said:

Maybe the announcements could be combined with visuals on the screens too.. since the entire station is a LED wall.

Yes. Let's take the theme we've spent so much time and money on, a theme which was originally connected to the ride dispatch system to ensure it played out in its entirety before dispatch, and then use those screens to display safety warnings completely destroying any illusion of fantasy.

1 hour ago, REGIE said:

Staff could give you the safety speech when you line up in-front of the mirror door out side and once they are done push the button and you can then go through. Then they could use the prerecorded message in the station. 🤷🏼‍♂️ 

Now this is where you could put some screens. There is zero other things to look at so it would pull focus. Install some surround speakers in that area, and you can have the briefing video run there. Eliminates the superman issue of an endless loop and background noise, and the operator only needs to get the attention of one trains worth of people before starting the video. Just need to group quick enough that the video doesn't delay them entering the cave.

57 minutes ago, New display name said:

People press it all the time and the staff have to call people back out of the tunnel.   

Heaven forbid an already-grouped number of riders were to enter the stairs and reach the station ahead of time.

[New display name]

1 minute ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

Heaven forbid an already-grouped number of riders were to enter the stairs and reach the station ahead of time.

Not a chance.  Staff are very quick at getting the riders back to the holding pen before stairs are reached.

[rappa]

4 minutes ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

Yes. Let's take the theme we've spent so much time and money on, a theme which was originally connected to the ride dispatch system to ensure it played out in its entirety before dispatch, and then use those screens to display safety warnings completely destroying any illusion of fantasy.

Thank goodness someone said it. 
God turning the theming screens into information displays is even worse than operators shouting over the prerecorded spiels. 

[Dean Barnett]

Seems a bit dumb to have it where it is.. or having a button instead of a swipe thingy.

[rappa]

1 minute ago, Dean Barnett said:

Seems a bit dumb to have it where it is.. or having a button instead of a swipe thingy.

Why? 
Button opens the door. Thats all it does, the actual show is triggered elsewhere. 

[New display name]

In the scheme of things @Dean Barnettdoes it really matter?

 

[Dean Barnett]

 

1 minute ago, New display name said:

In the scheme of things @Dean Barnettdoes it really matter?

 

Not really.. but we're not the grouper that has to tell every cycle to not touch the massive green button.

 

6 minutes ago, rappa said:

God turning the theming screens into information displays is even worse than operators shouting over the prerecorded spiels. 

It can be themed.. just have PIP's on the screen with animations. 

 

[New display name]

People won’t pay attention to signage in the station when the time spent queueing in the station is limited, people are too excited and there is too much to take in.  If you want signage to work, you have to stack people like they do for ST.   By the time it’s your turn on ST, the video has played 20 times. 

[Gazza]

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It can be themed.. just have PIP's on the screen with animations. 

Ok but I think with Hagrids its themed like a motorbike workshop, with random diagrams and repair manuals for motorbikes,  with some animated graphics (As is the case with books and posters in the HP universe) so you can make it suit the theme and its not a major screen.

The irregular, cavelike screens in the Levi station just dont lend themselves to schematic graphics showing how to board the train and it would break the immersion too much. It's the wrong screen to use.

For example on Rise of the resistance:

they dont even try and put safety into on the big screen in the hangar bay

They dont put the safety info on the screen with kylo ren (even though you are locked in that room with nothing do to)

Instead they do it on a smaller screen where it makes sense. The type of screen that looks like is used for showing status of the ship system, so it doesnt look out of place to show a seatbelt in the car as part of that system.

 

@Dean Barnett when making suggestions like this, you need to think about WHY they would have done it in a certain way or in a certain place on another attraction, not just the fact they did it in the first place in general.

 

 

Edited March 7, 2023 by Gazza

[Dean Barnett]

I don't think they are fair comparassions... there's not really any safety requirements on RoTR - spoilers ahead - you just stand on the first part, and for the second part you just put your bag at your feet and put your own seatbelt on (shock horror) which is the same seatbelt as on Tower / Dinosaur etc etc.

 

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

1 hour ago, Dean Barnett said:

It can be themed.. just have PIP's on the screen with animations.

You're underwater, in leviathan's lair. there are no screens, just an air bubble where you're standing with the leviathan swimming around the windows surrounding the station. 

You can't PIP if there's no P for you to PIP in.

11 minutes ago, Dean Barnett said:

I don't think they are fair comparassions... there's not really any safety requirements on RoTR

it's not about whether there is safety requirements, its about where you can have safety info and rider information, and where you can't. 

Anything that breaks the immersion you've just created is not an option. I even suggested earlier putting a screen in the hall before the sliding door. All riders about to enter have nothing better to do, and provided you can get the volume up loud enough to overcome a roaring train overhead, you've got a captive audience. 

say it with me:

PUTTING. 👏 IT. 👏 IN. 👏 THE. 👏 STATION. 👏 IS. 👏 THE. 👏 DUMBEST. 👏 IDEA. 👏 EVER. 👏

[Dean Barnett]

7 minutes ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

even suggested earlier putting a screen in the hall before the sliding door. All riders about to enter have nothing better to do, and provided you can get the volume up loud enough to overcome a roaring train overhead, you've got a captive audience. 

Happy with that.

Just hook in the ride system to not play it until the train clears the birdsnest 

[rappa]

Let’s just PIP the underwater window looking out into the ocean. 
 

Jesus christ thank god we don’t have old mate here working on attraction design. 🤦‍♂️ 

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

25 minutes ago, rappa said:

Jesus christ thank god we don’t have old mate here working on attraction design

won't somebody think of the turnstiles!

[Dean Barnett]

Well I wasn't going to mention it but it would work pretty well there - rather than the arcadic method of getting everyone to stand on a footprint.

[Gazza]

1 hour ago, Dean Barnett said:

I don't think they are fair comparassions... there's not really any safety requirements on RoTR - spoilers ahead - you just stand on the first part, and for the second part you just put your bag at your feet and put your own seatbelt on (shock horror) which is the same seatbelt as on Tower / Dinosaur etc etc.

They still have an animation showing the seatbelts and a safety spiel when dispatching so its fair lol.

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But lets be honest, if they had opened the ride and had put safety footage on the underwater screens you probably would have said it was crap and spoiling the immersion.

Safety videos are ok on smaller screens approaching a station.

But not on screens and projections that are being used for atmosphere and theming.

Note, both of these examples are from Sweden.

[New display name]

Screens in the back of each headrest.😂

[Dean Barnett]

All I want is the unthemed crew not to stand in an idle station shouting orders at riders. 

[New display name]

[Gazza]

5 minutes ago, Dean Barnett said:

All I want is the unthemed crew not to stand in an idle station shouting orders at riders. 

Yeah but you cant just make the theming shit to achieve that 😆

[Dean Barnett]

I went for the cheapest option.

[New display name]

Just now, Dean Barnett said:

I went for the cheapest option.

You would do well at DW.

[Slick]

Pre-ride videos fit into a swiss-cheese model of risk and attraction inefficiency mitigators. No one should ever expect one voice-over or one video to capture 100% of everyone's attention. Instead, when you pair it thoughtfully with other things (clear signage, human-centric physical design etc.) what you get is hopefully a situation where ride operators need only assist a few guests with each ride cycle and don't need to be shouting information at everyone in a passive aggressive tone (something our parks do extremely well, IMO.)

For Leviathan, I think adding some screens to the circular queue might be the way to go. Probably no VO needed, just some good visuals with subtitles detailing the steps. The stairs would be a great place to pop a booming VO (Leviathan's voice?) that could tell guests to start "preparing themselves for their greatest challenge" etc. etc. etc. Finally, a couple of well-placed physical signs integrated into the loose article bins that don't obstruct the digital displays would be great.

 

Edited March 7, 2023 by Slick

[Gobbledok]

Wouldnt it cost a lot of money to add videos to that station show anyway? Theyd have to pay people to change the programs and stuff right?

[Naazon]

Late to the party, but the green button just needs a clear plastic cover over it. not locked, just simple flip up and the Public pushing it issue will go away.