Arrow Dynamics?

[Richard]

Arrow Dynamics recently updated their page, included in this, was a new Links page, where they have links to some of their clients. I'm guessing that it is only recent clients, as there is no mention of parks like Sea World, which is home to one Arrow coaster. Well, in case you hadn't guessed it yet, Wonderland Sydney is on this list. Wonderland doesn't have any Arrow rides to my knowledge. Their is no Arrow ride at the park to my knowledge. Demon is Vekoma, who got a majority of the technology for all their rides from Arrow Dynamics, however, that is the only connection the two have, especially in the Boomeran ride. http://www.arrowdynamics.com/links.php?D=8 Wonderland Sydney also uses Vekoma spare parts for the ride; just by looking at the restraints the ride uses is a dead giveaway (At least it runs damn smooth, else you'd certainly be reminded of how hard the plastic restraints are, such as on Lethal Weapon). Arrow Dynamics specialises in coasters. Their current selling ones are the Mad Mouse design, which looks a lot more 'dynamic' and flowing than the Mack design, which was just a steel copy of the traditional wooden wild mouse. They've recently constructed X for Six Flags Magic Mountain, and they've finally worked out most (all) of the kinks with the system. Similarly, they've also improved the quality of their Looping coasters, and now they are said to rival the best Intamin or B&M coaster for smoothness. Aesthetically, the Arrow Looper is by far the best looking coaster on the earth (in my humble opinion), especially their change from square braces to rounded ones, in the past few years. Could it be that Wonderland Sydney's mystery, semi-confirmed ride that was all the hype this time last year, is something from Arrow Dynamics. Look at Cyclone, a ride that is in reality nothing special (except front seat in the S-bend, at dusk) that has provided Dreamworld with a very inepensive way of increasing attendance, even despite being second hand, and very cheap. Their rides are well and truely under the standard rates companies like Vekoma, B&M and Intamin charge (all average at around $16m per ride - regardless of currency).

[Psycho]

So we have the Arrow link and support sightings that are claimed to look like those on Cyclone - an arrow coaster. Please please please please pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!!!!!!!! lol Does Arrow use those sort of supports on their 4-D coasters? I can only dream that Wonderland was holding off on a 4-D until the kinks at SFMM were sorted out.........Well I can dream can't I? Even a second hand Arrow looper @ Wonderland would make me a happy camper!

[muke]

Me Too! I'm with you all the way on that one!!! I was looking at the 4D coasters on Arrows website - and some of the generic designs look pretty good. I'm with psycho - anything will do...need i say even a flume :oops:

[Richard]

I think this is all very exciting! A rumour at one stage said that the new attraction to go to Wonderland Sydney, was a ride that is only the second of its kind. At the time, there were two rides that there was only one of each. Incidently, both in Southern California, and both had names beginning with X - the Arrow 4D and the Intamin Rocket Coaster. The sheer magnitude of either of these rides is amazing. If I needed convincing to go to Wonderland, either of these rides would be the ideal ones to do it. Heck - the two in California were much of my decision to start planning a west coast trip for next year.

[Psycho]

I agree totally that even some of the "small" versions of the Arrow 4-D look damn good! Second of it's type - At one stage I was thinking Intamin impulse with two twists considering the only one of those is Wicked Twister at Cedar Point. But the park surely wouldnt want to reverse-style coasters?? But an Arrow 4-D would boost attendence nicely and it would be a real draw-card. Where would it fit though? Old Hanna Barbera Land (or Little Wonders Land as it was last called)

[Richard]

I don't think available land is the question. They have more cleared, open land all around that could be used for almost any description of coaster or ride.

[joz]

Being a bit of a skeptic, I'd probably say it ain't a 4D, but if it is, I for one am hoping Dreamworld will pick up the ride second hand when Wonderland go bankrupt j/k Still, if its true then this is very exciting, although you'd have to wonder when they intend to have this thing open by, it seems they've left it a bit late to open by Xmas, looks more like it'll be open just in time for winter.

[Ian]

this is good news if it comes true any new coaster in aussie is a good thing

[Psycho]

Just wondering.....Assuming the track mentioned in the other thread was from Arrow and was for Wonderland........ This may be a dumb question but......Why coming from up north?

[Richard]

Something I've wondered myself. Arrow no longer manufactures their own track and supports in-house (even companies that do subcontract to Australian companies as it is much more cost effective than importing it). Newcastle is the home of BHP, this is where a lot of past coasters have been made. The steel was seen South of Brisbane, North of Newcastle, heading South. Why would it be in the Greater-Brisbane area? This isn't just coasters I'm talking about here. Why would steel, that typically is made in Newcastle, that is heading south, found up here? Unless it is manufactured here, or has been imported to the Brisbane Port, or is being moved/relocated, I see absolutely no reason why there'd be any steel going south. Anyone more "in" with the construction industry (Wayne? ) see any reason why it'd be this way?

[DJKostya]

I was the person who saw the supports and i saw it about 2 hours south of Port Macquarie so abput 2 hours north of Newcastle.

[thunder001]

Ok. After a little hunting around I may have found an answer to this question but it is one that you will not like. It seems that the main supports in the new Lang Park construction are almost the same as a coaster support and I have been informed that 3 of the main sections were returned to the manufacture for mods to be performed. Now if you go past lang Park and see the frames for the roofing you will see large round white shaped beems that could be mistaken as coaster supports. I will get a picture of the beams on the weekend so that we can see if they are the same as the one's spotted. 8) Here is a link that shows the beams in the roof that I am talking about. http://www.sportrec.qld.gov.au/zone_files/...ld_download.jpg

[Psycho]

damn

[Wonderland Operator]

to answer the Question of the Arrow link, it is for the Demon the Demon was built by Vekoma but it uses an Arrow built train. next time you visit Wonderland take a look at the wheels on Demon for the Arrow labels

[Richard]

Something gives me an impression that Wonderland's name isn't on that list because of a few wheels they buy off of Arrow. If that were the case, they'd put practically every park that they've manufactured rides for, which would be well in the hundreds's. Specifically, there's a reference to Dreamworld, who recently bought Big Dipper from Luna Park in Sydney. Yet there is no reference to Sea World, who run Corkscrew, an Arrow Loop+Corkscrew. I'd be pretty sure that Wonderland purchases their parts from Vekoma. Because of the Arrow rolling stock that Demon uses, as opposed to the new Vekoma built and designed one seen on newer Boomerangs and other Vekoma loopers, chances are Vekoma have to purchase the Arrow-specific parts from Arrow, to make it viable for them. Demon has been refitted with the Vekoma style restraints in recent years, so it is evident that Vekoma has a very large role in the spare parts used on the ride.

[Guest Cokecool]

I'm just wondering if the people who built(I thank it was Kings/Taft) Kings Island, Kings Dominon, Great America(Ca), Carowinds, and Canada's Wonderland build Wonderland Sydney? And Why did'nt Paramount get the park? :shock: I thank Paramount would make Wonderland a much better park! I would like to see Wonderland get King Cobra from Paramount's Kings Island!

[rappa]

This is Riddlers Revenge...NOW THATS WHAT I CALL A STAND UP COASTER :-)

[Ian]

although I have ridden Riddlers Revenge loads of times and love it , just wondering what it has to do with the arrows topic seeing it's B&M same with king cobra thats made by TOGO It would be better to do seperate theards like what coaster would you like at wonderland?

[rappa]

Sorry yeah it was getting a bit off topic...just thought I had to slip it in once we degenerated (no offence) into which coaster is cool :-) Just couldnt help it, how wicked a coaster is RR. However there would be a zero chance I would think of something that size here due to out pop.