Best WoZ Coaster

[Gazza]

Personally, I love the visuals of the Kansas Twister dueling boomerang on board, impressive! That's such a short runout includes both a flyby and a racing section.

[Levi]

i think they’re both great family rides, but overall they’re just okay.

looking away from the theming, Kansas Twister is a fun little coaster, but i do wish it maybe ran a bit faster on the return trip and was a bit longer. 

FOTWW has a fun layout and the drop + first turn are decently intense for a family coaster, but it’s way too short and it’s a capacity nightmare. not being able to do up your own seatbelt, while the gates also don’t open until the station is completely empty, while it’s also only able to run one train makes every dispatch around 4 minutes, that’s only around 300 people an hour. so by the time you actually make it through the boiling hot queue line and experience the fun, but 30 second ride, you’re left with a sour taste in your mouth. 

for the hardware itself, FOTWW is my preferred option, but for how they are at the park, the experience of Kansas Twister is better imo, but they’re both just way too short. part of me thinks they should’ve gone for either a singular coaster like a big bear mountain / fire chaser express style of ride or a Vekoma STC & family boomerang combo.

[Spotty]

On 13/1/2025 at 1:45 PM, Levi said:

i think they’re both great family rides, but overall they’re just okay.

looking away from the theming, Kansas Twister is a fun little coaster, but i do wish it maybe ran a bit faster on the return trip and was a bit longer. 

FOTWW has a fun layout and the drop + first turn are decently intense for a family coaster, but it’s way too short and it’s a capacity nightmare. not being able to do up your own seatbelt, while the gates also don’t open until the station is completely empty, while it’s also only able to run one train makes every dispatch around 4 minutes, that’s only around 300 people an hour. so by the time you actually make it through the boiling hot queue line and experience the fun, but 30 second ride, you’re left with a sour taste in your mouth. 

for the hardware itself, FOTWW is my preferred option, but for how they are at the park, the experience of Kansas Twister is better imo, but they’re both just way too short. part of me thinks they should’ve gone for either a singular coaster like a big bear mountain / fire chaser express style of ride or a Vekoma STC & family boomerang combo.

FYI. I have not ridden this, or Jungle Rush so my opinion is just based on what I can see.

I personally think if they went with a single large Vekoma coaster it would have been a bit too similar to Jungle Rush. I think the rides they went with were a good idea in theory, however with the way that Village operates their rides it's a big downer. I think if they can fix the operation procedures (which TBH, I don't see happening) I think FOTWW would be a great coaster. I'm not quite sure how good the dispatches on KT are, but if ran properly it would be pretty good for capacity which right now is what the park needs. 

[Michelangelo]

2 hours ago, Spotty said:

FYI. I have not ridden this, or Jungle Rush so my opinion is just based on what I can see.

I personally think if they went with a single large Vekoma coaster it would have been a bit too similar to Jungle Rush. I think the rides they went with were a good idea in theory, however with the way that Village operates their rides it's a big downer. I think if they can fix the operation procedures (which TBH, I don't see happening) I think FOTWW would be a great coaster. I'm not quite sure how good the dispatches on KT are, but if ran properly it would be pretty good for capacity which right now is what the park needs. 

Ops aren’t anything special on KT, there’s lots of room for improvement. But they’re lucky the capacity is so huge that there’s barely a line or wait… Max I’ve ever waited for KT was 11mins. That’s including the walk.

[Levithian]

They needed to fill more of a gap in the tween demographic without building rides adults couldnt or wouldnt go on. With that regard, they pretty much nailed it. Helps to fill a void between kids flat rides and the extremes of thrill rides. Even scooby doo was too frightening for miss 12 to go on when it was open, but she was bored with road runner, so i think this is great. 

Pretty much all the rides have ammended safety devices and additional control proceedures that the ride manufacturers deemed unnecessary. 

Its the biggest stumbling block when it comes to throughput, ride capacity vs actual capacity.

Unless safety policies and proceedures drastically changed at village roadshow, nothing is going to even go close to approaching their actual capacity.

Could things be improved? Especially with regards to their queue management? Hell yes. But you arent going to shave minutes off dispatches while the above is still the biggest influence.

 

Edited January 17 by Levithian

[Coasterjoe]

I mean its clearly wicked witch but my goodness the operations and dispatches are attrocious. Was timing cart in to cart out dispatches today and was averaging 5minutes. 

[Ash]

1 hour ago, Coasterjoe said:

I mean its clearly wicked witch but my goodness the operations and dispatches are attrocious. Was timing cart in to cart out dispatches today and was averaging 5minutes. 

5 minutes is quite good for that ride run by Movieworld operations 😂

[TV15]

On 17/01/2025 at 4:57 PM, Levithian said:

Unless safety policies and procedures drastically changed at village roadshow, nothing is going to even go close to approaching their actual capacity.

What is the safety issue with opening the gates as soon as the train has arrived in the station, instead of waiting for everyone to get off, get their stuff and exit? Other parks, including down the road, don't seem to have the same issue.

Edited Sunday at 07:54 AM by TV15

[Ash]

6 minutes ago, TV15 said:

What is the safety issue with opening the gates as soon as the train has arrived in the station, instead of waiting for everyone to get off, get their stuff and exit? Other parks, including down the road, don't seem to have the same issue.

Correct jungle Rush have their gates open whilst other are collecting their belongings 

[Levi]

6 minutes ago, TV15 said:

What is the safety issue with opening the gates as soon as the train has arrived in the station, instead of waiting for everyone to get off, get their stuff and exit? Other parks, including down the road, don't seem to have the same issue.

yeah i’m not really sure, Jungle Rush’s gates open pretty much as the trains restraints unlock, and then the they’re checking before everyone’s even seated. i don’t get why they can’t do the same.

[aaronm]

54 minutes ago, TV15 said:

What is the safety issue with opening the gates as soon as the train has arrived in the station, instead of waiting for everyone to get off, get their stuff and exit? Other parks, including down the road, don't seem to have the same issue.

I don’t get it either, there’s more than enough room for both boarding and disembarking guests to access the cubby holes. The train is stationary for goodness sake.

My guess is that a risk manager suggested it as a solution to some imaginary problem, nobody wanted to challenge and now it’s VRTP policy forever.

Edited Sunday at 08:49 AM by aaronm

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

Isn't wicked witch a ground level station? so theoretically someone could wander out the rear of the station and into the envelope if ops aren't paying attention?

[New display name]

12 hours ago, aaronm said:

I don’t get it either, there’s more than enough room for both boarding and disembarking guests to access the cubby holes. The train is stationary for goodness sake.

My guess is that a risk manager suggested it as a solution to some imaginary problem, nobody wanted to challenge and now it’s VRTP policy forever.

My guess is Village don't give a shit if a guest spends the whole day standing in a queue. 

[Ashley Jeffery]

1 minute ago, New display name said:

My guess is Village don't give a shit if a guest spends the whole day standing in a queue. 

Backwards way to run a theme park.

[Gazza]

2 hours ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

Isn't wicked witch a ground level station? so theoretically someone could wander out the rear of the station and into the envelope if ops aren't paying attention?

You can have light curtains that turn on when the train is parked. If a guest walks through it sets off an alarm.

Meanwhile in Denmark:

Funny story, I was in Korea, I was catching a high speed train and i decided to walk to the front to get a photo of the nose cone. As soon as i got near there, an alarm went off and a message in both Korean and English..."You are in a restricted area, please return to the main area of the platform"...I scurried back red faced. It's common to even have CCTV in warehouses which use AI to pick up if workers deviate from designated walkways etc.

Edited Monday at 12:19 AM by Gazza

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

9 minutes ago, Gazza said:

You can have light curtains that turn on when the train is parked. If a guest walks through it sets off an alarm.

Does FOTWW have these?

[New display name]

So next time you go to Korea and you're with someone.  Do you set it off for giggles @Gazza? 😉

You know, I'm setting of the "sit down" recording on the Timber Mountain Log Ride.  (it's a right of passage for an enthusiast)