'World Best' Attraction coming to VRTP

[BNErider]

Thanks for the info skeetafly, it's great to have someone here who knows so much in terms of developments and planning.

[New display name]

Don't thank me yet, I don't think anything I have said has ever come about.  

 

Man I am screwing my post up today but this one is for Alex.

I haven't solved the staff entrance problem yet but I am working on it   

The thing that makes me think MW has already solved this problem is the 3 applications where lodged on the same day.  One of the applications was for admin buildings.

 

 

Edited December 1, 2015 by skeetafly

[pushbutton]

I see in the planning applications that one refers to an "Entertainment Precinct", and another refers to "New attraction and Lakeside Precinct". Yet another application is for a "Roller Coaster".

This infers there will be not one new precinct, but TWO new precincts.

It also implies that the new attraction in the lakeside precinct is separate from the roller coaster.

Therefore it does look to me that there are two new attractions coming (and possibly more).

Judging by the names they've chosen for the planning applications, I think the entertainment precinct may NOT be part of Movie World per se, but a separate area adjacent to Movie World. However I'm hoping the Lakeside precinct (and the new attraction that will presumably be within it) will be within Movie World itself. It seems fair to assume that the roller coaster WILL be within Movie World. It would be strange to have one just outside of the park!

If it were up to me, I'd be building a Movie World hotel next to the entertainment precinct! My only reservations in this would be that doing so might limit the land available for new attractions, and unlike Sea World where there is safe monorail or footpath access from the hotel into the park, it could mean residential guests having to walk across the car park to get to and from accommodation, and that could bring safety risks, especially for the kids. Of course, a monorail would solve that, but there's no suggestion that's in the plans at this point!

It's a pity there are no documents available online to show the details. Regardless, exciting times ahead for Movie World very soon I think!!!

Edited December 1, 2015 by pushbutton

[GoGoBoy]

Skeetafly - good job! Some of the best contributions I have seen to this forum in ages. Whether or not your predictions turn out to be right is irrelevant. Your obviously strong knowledge of planning is very insightful.

Edited December 1, 2015 by GoGoBoy

[Reanimated35]

2 hours ago, skeetafly said:

Getting back to MW easement you will find commercial buildings encroach easements a lot.   If you think of Brisbane city and all of the services that would run under the buildings, I think you might understand what I am trying to spit out.

There are still a lot of regulations around BOS/BOI permits though. Fortunately haven't come across the situation where one of those mains breaks and something needs to be done about digging it up to fix it though. In saying that, I'd love to see how that plays out. 

Just to back up what Skeet was saying, these are the only easements (light green) on the land (and the watercourse) 

Also, looking at the boundaries, it has been combined to one huge lot

So at least it looks like it's their land to work with.

I'm not sure when these images were taken, the map claims 4/6/15 but there appears to be a couple of red cars in the stunt driver arena and I thought they'd be gone by then? Although driving school was complete and those cars do look like utes so it must be right. 

 

As for ideas, incl fixing (I think) the staff entry....

Idea 1

 

Idea #2

Green area they may not wish to utilise given its proximity to the water tank for the studios.

 

[Brad2912]

Here's the link from 5 years ago regarding the expansion plans, that were not approved at the time by council 

http://www.parkz.com.au/forums/topic/5348-movieworld-expansion/

[pushbutton]

When do we think work is likely to actually get underway?

Edited December 1, 2015 by pushbutton

[pin142]

Well all that we are seeing is bulk development applications at the moment. Think it is a case of wait and see if they are approved. Will say just because something is approved doesn't mean they will start work immediately either, White Water World has expansion approved with extra slides and stuff and nothing has happened with it since. Really anyone's guess as to when they will start any of the developments.

Will state the obvious and say I can't see it all going ahead at the same time and will be over a number of years.

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

Re: HWSD - yes they are utes, and this is taken 1 September 2015:

 

I know I promised to do some nearmap shots of the parks a week ago - things have been busy - i'll try and get them up in the next week or two.

[pushbutton]

1 hour ago, pin142 said:

Well all that we are seeing is bulk development applications at the moment. Think it is a case of wait and see if they are approved. Will say just because something is approved doesn't mean they will start work immediately either, White Water World has expansion approved with extra slides and stuff and nothing has happened with it since. Really anyone's guess as to when they will start any of the developments.

Will state the obvious and say I can't see it all going ahead at the same time and will be over a number of years.

All the applications (except one from memory, not sure which) have already been approved. 

[New display name]

Ok stop right there.  Skeet has now been show to be 100% wrong.  Earthworks has nothing to do with new roller coaster.   I am going to be out on site most of the day and I need a computer to open the files up correctly.    I'm looking at people like Alex, Brad and Richard to to go to skeeta's source and reveal the great findings.   Richind get your keyboard oiled up I feel another story coming on.   

[rac2703]

10 hours ago, reanimated35 said:

Idea #2

Green area they may not wish to utilise given its proximity to the water tank for the studios.

 

The only issue with this plot is that most of the red area is swampland, that fills during periods of heavy rain (as shown in the pic below)

[pushbutton]

That can be rectified. I used to live in a Lend Lease suburb that had previously been swampland. 

[totta3]

10 hours ago, reanimated35 said:

They can't use the back lot because they use it for filming.

[rac2703]

I think the most logical place for a major expansion would be (as previously mentioned) behind the showstage, the outline below includes some back of house buildings which could be the reason for "admin buildings" being included in the applications.

[Zanstabar]

Wowza! Was just checking out PD Online and while it's not directly related to the "World Class Attraction", it is something worthwile.

23 hours ago, skeetafly said:

Just to add to my earlier info I found.  The prices MW paid for the OPW would indicate that.

Earthworks size  =  1001m2 to 5000m2

The tree removal is linked to another application.  (what that application is, I do not know)

"Tree works linked to a development application, includes vegetation management plan and fauna management plan when the MCU/ROL requires these plans to be submitted in conjunction with Tree Works application."

 

I managed to find a site plan attached to the landscaping application, and it turns out that this tree works appears to be a campsite over near Paradise County.

I would link to it, but I'm a little unsure in case that goes against the VRTP's or Parkz's rules. However, this information is publicly available on the PD Online site for the Gold Coast.

Edited December 2, 2015 by Zanstabar

[bluman]

From the OPW201502417 documents, it looks like the Paradise Country area is being upgraded to include cabins and campsites in the future.

[Brad2912]

As Zanstabar has alluded. The OPW for Operation Works/Ground level clearing & carpark relates to 'Paradise Country Cabins' which incorporates a reception building, new carpark, 94 tourist cabins, and a camping ground facility. The landscaping OPW is also linked to this. Plans/drawings are publicly available on PD Online. Application is not approved at this stage.

 

 

Edited December 2, 2015 by Brad2912

[New display name]

I really wish people would start reading other people post before writing their own post.  It is so annoying reading the same post over and over.  Another thing is if people are going to jump on PD online it often helps to read the whole document before posting about it. 

There is a method to my madness to why I say only people like Brad, Alex & some others should be pulling information of these documents.  Town planning and certification takes years & years of schooling just to understand these documents so it makes sense to me, only people with more than half a brain should be trying to write about them.

 

PSSS Brad you forgot to mention that the cabins are not part of Paradise Country Cabins but is called Outback Spectacular Lodge.

Edited December 2, 2015 by skeetafly

[Brad2912]

To me a Lodge & cabins would be differing. Cabins are stand alone, a lodge would be a hotel/motel style accommodation. Granted i didnt go through all the documents in detail, but i actually didnt see 'Outback Spectacular Lodge' referenced, i must have skipped through that part.
Project name was certainly Paradise Country Cabins for the info i was looking for, with all plans stamped with that name.

Potentially 2 separate accommodations?

Edited December 2, 2015 by Brad2912

[New display name]

Looking the plans I'm thinking we could both be right.

The top cabins are your name and the lower cabins are my name maybe.

 

[Zanstabar]

31 minutes ago, skeetafly said:

There is a method to my madness to why I say only people like Brad, Alex & some others should be pulling information of these documents.  Town planning and certification takes years & years of schooling just to understand these documents so it makes sense to me, only people with more than half a brain should be trying to write about them.

Sorry to annoy you then, Skeet.

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

I wonder if this will be in time for them to provide accommodation options (at dramatically inflated prices) to guests staying during the comm. games.

I also wonder if this is an incarnation of a previous Wild concept?

I'll have a little looksee a little later on.

[pushbutton]

Wow. Potentially we're looking at numerous major upgrades to the Gold Coasts already awesome experience!

[New display name]

16 minutes ago, Zanstabar said:

Sorry to annoy you then, Skeet.

Not saying anyone in particular and I have done it myself but if you put in some effort to post something it would be good if we all put in the effort to read other people's post first.