Sky Voyager Discussion

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

On 27/12/2017 at 11:35 AM, pushbutton said:

I am dumb, so I await correction by someone wise! 

 

On 01/06/2018 at 11:03 AM, pushbutton said:

How about "Blown Away" as a better name for the ride.

That's a freebie, in case anyone at Dreamworld is looking, (although I wouldn't say no to a free annual pass, and one for MickeyD too for the inspiration)!

 

On 01/06/2018 at 11:54 AM, Skeeta said:

What's your marketing campaign slogan going to be? @pushbutton

Don’t say one day that day will never come.

Get blown by Dreamworld and come today.

 

Or maybe -

"You talking to me ?"

Get blown away by Dreamworld today.

Or maybe you're thinking DW will team up with Guardians of the Galaxy.

 Stuff the yearly pass push.  You deserve a lifetime pass.

(this one I couldn't think of a slogan, but it deserves a mention)

/sarcasm

1 hour ago, pushbutton said:

I still think my idea of "Blown Away" is a good name for the ride. 

 

1 hour ago, joz said:

Also just to nip it in the bud; Blown Away would not be a good name for the ride.

 

8 minutes ago, pushbutton said:

In case anyone was getting the idea that the opinion of Joz was the only one that matters in this forum, it's actually not. Strangely, everyones opinion is equally valid. 

Don't worry - nobody is under the misconception that Joz's opinion is the only one that matters. As a matter of fact, a lot of people's opinions matter... but I disagree with you that 'everyone's opinion being equally valid' - in some cases, people reveal themselves to be one who usually has an opinion that is to be discounted.

What causes people to discount others' opinions is usually when they come up with poor viewpoints that are either terrible, or ridiculous, and then proceed to repeat them again and again until they get acknowledged and validated.

At that stage, people stop caring about the opinion of that person.

If you need some examples - i'll give you three, that despite being lambasted at worst, and thoroughly debunked at best, you continue to "push":

1. 'walkthrough dark ride monorail'
2. 'we definitely don't need any more coasters'
3. 'blown away'

As a matter of fact, one of the few things you've ever said on these boards that most of us can agree with is the first quote at the top!

 

All of this is of course my opinion, which you can't invalidate because under your system, everyones opinion is equally valid. And of course, if you choose to do so, you concede that i am correct, that some people's opinions should be discounted, in which case your opinion is less valid than some other people's... quite the paradox, is it not?

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4 minutes ago, AlexB said:

All of this is of course my opinion, which you can't invalidate because under your system, everyones opinion is equally valid. And of course, if you choose to do so, you concede that i am correct, that some people's opinions should be discounted, in which case your opinion is less valid than some other people's... quite the paradox, is it not?

 

This part reads so much better with sound effects.

 

[rappa]

For me the ideal campaign for this attraction would be as ambiguous as possible.

 

I would have all sorts of shots of POV experience as well as obscure shots of riders in the flying position, never really revealing what the ride system is exactly. I would want the public questioning whether it was on a track, a simulator, or whatever it is. You know, some whimsy...

[Jay Jay The Jet Plane]

These were taken today,

Edited July 7, 2018 by Adventures With JWorld

[Flynn_Smith]

34 minutes ago, Adventures With JWorld said:

Is it just me seeing the Coca-Cola logo?

[Slick]

That would be the layers of stuff that have been covered up over the years. 

[Gold Coast Amusement Force]

I understand this is the worst video and it is verticaly recorded and crap quality and too fast but its better than nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQUytDPAjrw

[webslave]

Thankyou for sharing that with us.

[Slick]

Cheers for sharing @Gold Coast Amusement Force - hope you don't mind - because the video is so quick I took the liberty of screen-capping the most interesting frames and bringing out the shadows so folks could see inside the building.

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

^Thanks Roachie - if people focused on good content instead of a desire to boost their YT views, we'd have been able to see that the first time!

[TomiJ]

@Gold Coast Amusement Force I appreciate the effort it is better than nothing. Thanks roachie for helping bring stuff out of the shadows.

Are still expecting for this to open this year? 

[Gold Coast Amusement Force]

19 hours ago, AlexB said:

^Thanks Roachie - if people focused on good content instead of a desire to boost their YT views, we'd have been able to see that the first time!

Thankyou Alex 

Edited July 31, 2018 by Gold Coast Amusement Force

[themagician]

A couple of shipping containers and a small crane were in the fenced off area outside of dreamworld this evening 

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I stole photos off TPSN.

[Slick]

So help me god if they cock up one of the last remaining Disney-clone facades i'll go bananas. I think it'd give old mate John Longhurst a heart attack - part of the reason why Dreamworld looks like a dog's breakfast is because they keep torching everything old and replacing it with cardboard cut-outs and painted concrete.

Edited August 8, 2018 by Roachie

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Side note for second photo we still haven't confirmed this area is for I-Ride.

2 minutes ago, Roachie said:

So help me god - if they cock up one of the last remaining Disney-clone facades i'll go bananas.

O ye, of little faith.  Shit stop that thought, this is DW.😀

[Slick]

19 minutes ago, Skeeta said:

Side note for second photo we still haven't confirmed this area is for I-Ride.

O ye, of little faith.  Shit stop that thought, this is DW.😀

It's definitely for I-Ride, it's been spoken about to death in some other threads.

For those unfamiliar - Dreamworld's IMAX/Cinema now i-ride facade is seen in Walt Disney World, Disneyland Paris & Tokyo Disneyland.

And here's ours - spot which one is well maintained:

And here is how it looked on opening day, 1981.

For all the marketing copy they spent on justifying not spending the same amount of money as Movie World on new rides because they're so focussed on "nostalgia" it then would be hypocritical and down-right tone deaf to destroy one of the last furnishings that exude high some semblance of quality design and overall planning / theming / integration. Let us pray that is not the case.

Also worth nothing - Dreamworld's facade facsimile may not be as lush as the three above but here's the thing - every single one Disney's facades has been refurbished over time and subsequently improved upon to arrive at this point now where they all look top notch.

By comparison, when Dreamworld painted the entrance building they opted to paint over almost all of the windows. If that's not half-arsed, contemptuous and ignorant of why the place was so successful in the first place I dunno what is.

Edited August 8, 2018 by Roachie

[themagician]

I really hope they do keep the facade as is, and it will really ruin the area if they change it. The only they should do to it is repaint it (with the same colour) and change the signage. And hopefully that bit of facade at the top they’ve removed is just for access and they replace the timber and it matches what was there 

I’m wondering if they will transform the the old Boost Juice store to the exit, and the main entrance and queue area will be inside. I also hope they don’t add queue posts outside the building and keep the area clean as is now. If the queues become that long, then set up a temporary queue area outside to the right, but that’s it 

Edited August 8, 2018 by themagician

[themeparkaddict]

Plot twist: what if it was a replacement SkyLoop 😂

[Slick]

1 hour ago, themagician said:

I really hope they do keep the facade as is, and it will really ruin the area if they change it. The only they should do to it is repaint it (with the same colour) and change the signage. And hopefully that bit of facade at the top they’ve removed is just for access and they replace the timber and it matches what was there.

Just continuing on this and sidetracking, I think a lot of people aren't aware just how much of Florida's Disney World (specifically Magic Kingdom) played a part in Main Street's design.

Magic Kingdom's.

Dreamworld's back in 1981.

Dreamworld's (in 2018).

Magic Kingdom's.

Dreamworld's.

Magic Kingdom's.

Dreamworld's (in 1981).

Dreamworld's (in 2018).

You'd think you'd only find amazing stores like this only in the Magic Kingdom.

But actually Dreamworld did cool stuff like this too.

Here's Disneyland's Market House from the air.

Here's Dreamworld.

From the ground back in 1956 at Disneyland.

From the ground back in 2012-ish at Dreamworld.

And this is what Disney have done to theirs.

Now i'm not saying Dreamworld needs to somehow procure the money Disney has to continually drop millions on facade additions, that's unreasonable and even John Longhurst recognised that was impossible, but I do think management has done a lot of bad with the money they had by tacking on cheap lights, painting facades garish colours and in the case of the main entrance, actually knocking out a part of the building to put in a bland, cream, textured wall with barred windows. I mean talk about a jarring and hostile first impression. Disney have looked after what they had and now, some several decades later, a thousand tiny improvements have resulted in untouchable quality and finish.

That's not to say that was never the case either with Dreamworld - Village Oval is a fantastic example of an addition where the facades and buildings were simply second to none.

This was Village Oval.

It got a lot worse.

But it did get better.

But we did lose amazing little buildings like this.

Sometimes I feel like just they seem to get it wrong more then they do get it right, and that's where people irk up, because when you destroy something the expectation is that whatever replaces it is as good, if not better, and that hasn't been the case for so very many things at Dreamworld. Despite that, refurbishments like Green Bean, the ice cream parlour & the Dough Bros end of the plaza are all actually really well great examples in Main Street of bringing something into the 21st century without cocking it up completely (although in the case of the central plaza, removing the chandelier in the main tower and putting lino over the Dreamworld mosaic are both sins in their own right.) The Dreamworks area is another example of bringing a higher level of quality into the mix and is really great overall and Tiger Island is dead set the park's biggest asset and provided you ignore the gigantic tin cage down the end that shouldn't exist it's honestly one of the world's best Tiger exhibits.

In the case of Green Bean as a Main Street facade example, when they renovated it they used softer, more realistic colours, the interior aesthetic is muted but fun and detailed, and there's plenty of nice places to sit - that kind of execution is how the entirety of the park is how the whole park should be in my mind and that's why folks like me are so judgey - it's not because we're anal theme park nerds, it's that Dreamworld used to be shit hot, and since Ardent came along a lot of things have fallen well below the bar that John Longhurst had set.

With all of that said, bulldozing the Dreamworld Cinema facade would be an utter shame and frankly speaking I doubt there's anything better you could put in its place given just how iconic the design itself is.

 

Edited August 8, 2018 by Roachie

[joz]

Part of what made Imax work so well at DW compared to other installations is that the facade hid how big the cinema is. I feel i-ride would be the same, soarin' as good a ride as it is doesn't surprise you because you can see it's a massive building going in, but adding something huge in what from the outside looks small and unassuming makes it all the more impressive. Having the facade be big and bold would ruin part of it for my taste.

[themagician]

 

10 minutes ago, Roachie said:

 

Dreamworld's (in 2018)

 

This image I think summarises the park today. They’ve taken the old stuff, and ruined it or removed the magic that was there. They could have adult out those doors in the middle, and yet they are too the side. And they probably could have even left the original lower facade, and just widened the door to make flow easier.

But no... they did this

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14 hours ago, themagician said:

They could have adult out those doors in the middle, and yet they are too the side.

Not true due to the National Construction Code building requirements for distances between fire sources.   

[themagician]

That is true, but surely they could’ve put the door in the middle, and built a smaller facade either side to match what was there 

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13 minutes ago, themagician said:

That is true, but surely they could’ve put the door in the middle, and built a smaller facade either side to match what was there 

No @themagician they couldn’t put the door in the middle and the façade has nothing to do with the fire separation issues DW had.  That doesn’t let DW of the hook from turning it into unspeakable ugliness.