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$2,000-$3,000.

 

Thats it. I can't believe it. 

It's incredible to think of the things alot of people can buy for that amount of money. 

- A Computer

- A Phone

-A Holiday

- A Dog (Seriously mine cost $3,500)

 It's a whack of cash but its also really not that much especially when you think about the fact that it cost four people their lives literally and so many others figuratively.

"852. Mr. Rutherford estimated that the cost of such a water level detection system 
being supplied and interfaced with the safety controller already installed, 
including dual diverse water level sensors, cabling installation, programming and 
testing/validation, would have been around $2000-$3000, had it been carried out 
at the same time as the other modifications in February 2016.

  On 24/02/2020 at 12:45 PM, Brad2912 said:

And to think at the end of the day, a water level sensor - that’s lets be honest would seem like a stock standard instrument on ANY ride incorporating water - was all that was required to save 4 lives. In 30 years of operation, and probably 1000s of sets of eyes, no one thought that to be worth the pittance (in relative terms) It would have cost. 

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By not putting a water level sensor in Dreamworld effectively put a price hunann life. It's unacceptable and unbelievable.

 

I hope they have and continue to change and learn. I know what I have said above it harsh but they have my favourite rides and I really want them to continue on a positive path where consumer confidence and the good times are restored. 

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It's easy to look back now and say "$2,500 was what they decided a human life was not even worth" but that's hyperbole.  After all, it's no more meaningful than telling someone who had just killed someone in a car wreck that if they had just left 10 seconds later then it wouldn't have happened and that therefore they decided another person's life wasn't worth 10 seconds of their time.  Yeah, they totally should have done it but you never know at the time that's what's riding on it.

Here's a bit I found interesting;

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648. With respect to statutory notices issued to Theme Parks or amusement devices since 2002 up until the tragic incident, Dreamworld received 34 notices, the highest for all of the Theme Parks, and the Ekka.1276Movie World and Wet N Wild for the same period, received no notices. Following the 25 October 2016, 17 notices were served on Dreamworld, with Movie World receiving two and Wet N Wild receiving one.

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TECHNICAL CAUSE & CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE INCIDENT

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  On 24/02/2020 at 11:58 PM, Skeeta said:

@webslave DW new the rafts could flip and did nothing.   You're not looking backwards if you already know the outcome of a situation.   

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Actually, they knew there was a possibility the rafts could flip and decided they had done enough about it.  As we now know, they had not.  There's a difficult to determine but nonetheless distinct difference between knowing about a risk and believing you'd done enough to mitigate it and knowing about a risk and continuing to take it even though you know you hadn't done enough to mitigate it.  That's why criminal charges are so hard to make stick with this stuff.

The reality is that in almost every incident there's a case of an entity thinking they have done enough to mitigate a risk and finding out that they had not, or indeed not even having identified the risk in the first place.  For all of the attention and the tragic outcome this unfortunately boils down to both (depending on who we are talking about).

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  On 24/02/2020 at 11:58 PM, Skeeta said:

@webslave DW new the rafts could flip and did nothing.   You're not looking backwards if you already know the outcome of a situation.   

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Agree - the coroner mentioned this and I'm pretty sure it was in one of my rapid fire updates - they argued 'hindsight bias' as influencing the views that something so cheap and simple could have fixed it.

(For those who don't know what that means, here's a copypasta slab complete with wiki references:

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Hindsight bias, also known as the knew-it-all-along phenomenon[1] or creeping determinism,[2] refers to the common tendency for people to perceive events that have already occurred as having been more predictable than they actually were before the events took place.[3][4] As a result, people often believe, after an event has occurred, that they would have predicted, or perhaps even would have known with a high degree of certainty, what the outcome of the event would have been, before the event occurred. Hindsight bias may cause distortions of our memories of what we knew and/or believed before an event occurred, and is a significant source of overconfidence regarding our ability to predict the outcomes of future events.[5] Examples of hindsight bias can be seen in the writings of historians describing outcomes of battles, physicians recalling clinical trials, and in judicial systems as individuals attribute responsibility on the basis of the supposed predictability of accidents.[6][7][2]

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This was Dreamworld's argument before the coroner - that everyone can see how predictable the events were in hindsight.

 

The coroner emphatically rejected this claim of hindsight bias, and used the examples of the MULTIPLE previous historic incidents over more than a decade as justification that the incident was VERY predictable.

Further, the coroner stated it was more a case of good luck than good management that nobody had been injured previously.

  On 25/02/2020 at 12:04 AM, webslave said:

decided they had done enough about it.

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The coroner also stated that a risk assessment had NEVER been completed on the ride operation in 30 years. And that any competent person could see the risks.

 

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  On 25/02/2020 at 12:07 AM, AlexB said:

The coroner also stated that a risk assessment had NEVER been completed on the ride operation in 30 years. And that any competent person could see the risks.

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Which is, of course, an interesting thing for him to say when his report actually references risks that had been assessed on the ride by several parties.  Perhaps some obtuse wording on his part.  For example;

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284. Whilst the scope of these risk assessments varied somewhat, it is clear from the material provided that a documented engineering risk assessment of the ride, adequately considering the hazards posed by different components or the ride as a whole, was never conducted. This is particularly troubling having regard to the previous incidents already documented.

285. Based upon the documentation, a summary of the ‘risk assessments’ conducted on the TRRR is outlined below. Given the limited and poor record keeping and databases maintained in relation to such assessments, it is not possible to determine if any further undocumented assessments were conducted, and what changes if any were subsequently made.

286. On 9 July 2015, Mr. Deaves, Mr. Alex Navarro, Mr. Shane Green and Ms. Anneke Triebels conducted a ‘risk assessment’ of various aspects of the TRRR, including breakage of the conveyor chain and the depth of the watercourse. It is not clear what the catalyst was for this risk assessment. Ms. Horton does recall two instances were rafts had slid down the conveyor, whilst on the mechanism.

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Furthermore, later in his report he goes on to state that several purportedly competent persons had looked at the ride and either failed to see the risk, or indeed considered the risk mitigated.  I believe the implication here is that none of these were ultimately competent persons in the literal sense.  Unfortunately this isn't solely a Dreamworld issue - these issues extended through a number of engineering firms and the OIR itself.

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  On 25/02/2020 at 12:07 AM, AlexB said:

MULTIPLE previous historic incidents over more than a decade as justification that the incident was VERY predictable.

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This needs to be highlighted.  

DW put money ahead of guest no two ways about it.  We all thought DW was looking like a shithole and DW was not spending money on the upkeep of the park, but we never thought it went to the level of DW not spending money on keeping the rides safe.  Well it turned out Ardent was making a killing in profits and killing people at the same time. 

Cost cutting on safety is something you think would happen if a company was in trouble and not to turning a pretty penny.

 

 

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Let's also bear in mind here that as far as I've read the report doesn't say that automated water level monitoring alone would have been enough to prevent this - it needed to be linked (preferably) to a non-administrative action which would have been to command the PLC to halt the conveyor.  It's been a little while since I've read over that part, but I believe there's also some risks with stopping the conveyor, so these also would have had to have been mitigated.  To try and dress this as a 'simple' $10k modification is erroneous.

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  On 25/02/2020 at 12:15 AM, webslave said:

Which is, of course, an interesting thing for him to say when his report actually references risks that had been assessed on the ride by several parties.  Perhaps some obtuse wording on his part.  For example;

Furthermore, later in his report he goes on to state that several purportedly competent persons had looked at the ride and either failed to see the risk, or indeed considered the risk mitigated.  I believe the implication here is that none of these were ultimately competent persons in the literal sense.  Unfortunately this isn't solely a Dreamworld issue - these issues extended through a number of engineering firms and the OIR itself.

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A risk assessment on the ride operation was never completed in 30 years.

Individual hazards were assessed for risk, but not a wholesome view - each hazard was assessed in isolation.

The coroner also mentioned in his findings, that controls (mainly administrative ones) were put in place to mitigate risks (reactionary) without considering what other hazards those controls caused, which is why a whole-of-ride assessment (that was never done) should have been.

  On 25/02/2020 at 12:31 AM, webslave said:

Let's also bear in mind here that as far as I've read the report doesn't say that automated water level monitoring alone would have been enough to prevent this - it needed to be linked (preferably) to a non-administrative action which would have been to command the PLC to halt the conveyor.  It's been a little while since I've read over that part, but I believe there's also some risks with stopping the conveyor, so these also would have had to have been mitigated.  To try and dress this as a 'simple' $10k modification is erroneous.

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The section of the report that covers the new sensors installed - which is also the section that discusses whether a water level sensor should also be installed - does mention that the rollback and chain break sensors weren't just alarms - they were wired into the PLC systems to stop the ride \ ride components when the sensors indicated a fault.

So if the additional water level sensor HAD been isntalled, one can assume, based on the operation and programming of the other sensors, that the water level sensor would also have been wired into the PLC, and programmed to stop the ride.

You're reaching here mate. they fucked up. And any competent person responsible for safety and risk management in the park should have seen that coming. The trouble is - Dreamworld didn't have one.

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  On 24/02/2020 at 11:41 PM, webslave said:

It's easy to look back now and say "$2,500 was what they decided a human life was not even worth" but that's hyperbole.  After all, it's no more meaningful than telling someone who had just killed someone in a car wreck that if they had just left 10 seconds later then it wouldn't have happened and that therefore they decided another person's life wasn't worth 10 seconds of their time.  Yeah, they totally should have done it but you never know at the time that's what's riding on it.

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It's not evwn remotely the same.

It's different when youve had multiple incidents in the past that have lifted the rafts due to water level; youve had an incident where it was shown one of your most experienced operators was not able to manage the ride operation when a low water level fault occurrs, placing people in danger; By your own proceedures acknowledge low water levels are an extremely dangerous situation,  cause for a ride stoppage due to safety issues; 

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The issue had been highlighted a number of times in the past by inspections and staff and was considered important enough to quote for the upgrade, but was never acted upon. 

  On 25/02/2020 at 12:31 AM, webslave said:

Let's also bear in mind here that as far as I've read the report doesn't say that automated water level monitoring alone would have been enough to prevent this - it needed to be linked (preferably) to a non-administrative action which would have been to command the PLC to halt the conveyor.  It's been a little while since I've read over that part, but I believe there's also some risks with stopping the conveyor, so these also would have had to have been mitigated.  To try and dress this as a 'simple' $10k modification is erroneous.

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Experts testified exactly that. Including one of the police investigators.

The 10k cost included water level and plc upgrade. 

Heres an example. This expert was one tasked by the Office of Industrial Relations to investigate the ride control systems and its operation after the incident..

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  On 25/02/2020 at 12:36 AM, AlexB said:

A risk assessment on the ride operation was never completed in 30 years.

Individual hazards were assessed for risk, but not a wholesome view - each hazard was assessed in isolation.

The coroner also mentioned in his findings, that controls (mainly administrative ones) were put in place to mitigate risks (reactionary) without considering what other hazards those controls caused, which is why a whole-of-ride assessment (that was never done) should have been.

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Absolutely, the amount of administrative controls in-play here is quite staggering and quaint.  I personally also don't see how any remotely competent person could have looked at this ride which has almost no automated safety measures in the last decade (if not longer) and said "yes, it's acceptable to me to put this much reliance into humans".  I guess the problem here is that a number of people who were supposedly competent were able to justify it to themselves and those that they report to.

  On 25/02/2020 at 12:36 AM, AlexB said:

So if the additional water level sensor HAD been isntalled, one can assume, based on the operation and programming of the other sensors, that the water level sensor would also have been wired into the PLC, and programmed to stop the ride.

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I'm not sure I can assume that, since if you're prepared to make that assumption you would surely also have to be prepared to make the assumption that a one-button e-stop would also exist.  Reading the information in this report tells me that we could have assumed nothing of these people.  It's entirely plausible to me that they would have wired it in and had it flash a light at the control panel - certainly more plausible than the notion that they might have done it right.

  On 25/02/2020 at 12:36 AM, AlexB said:

You're reaching here mate. they fucked up. And any competent person responsible for safety and risk management in the park should have seen that coming. The trouble is - Dreamworld didn't have one.

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Please don't read my comments as a mitigation of Dreamworld's actions or an attempt to say that they did not fuck up.  They most certainly did, and that's very clear in the report.  What I'm encouraging us to do is to actually read the report and understand it rather than just doing media sound-bytes.  Dreamworld didn't have one, for sure.  They also never managed to engage the services of one.  The regulator also failed in their duty to identify any of this, and were in my view wholly deficient too.

In fact, one of the more interesting things to come out of this report for me is that I don't believe the ride operators have any significant culpability here.

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  On 25/02/2020 at 12:47 AM, Levithian said:

Experts testified exactly that. Including one of the police investigators.

The 10k cost included water level and plc upgrade. 

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Are we talking about this section?

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132. This upgrade was intended to include the following: - The addition of a 7-inch Proface Touch Screen which would monitor all alarms, monitor the water level and monitor the pump loads; and - Upgrade the controls of all arrival and exit gates.

133. It was estimated that the additional cost for this further component to the upgrade, which would ‘future proof this system for years to come’ was $10,000.Mr. Ritchie was of the view that this increase to the scope of work would allow for the necessary infrastructure to make the ride capable of future automation projects, which may be considered, and would also improve the state of the wiring at the Main Control Panel, which would enable faster electrical fault finding in the future.

134. In relation to the monitoring of the water level at the TRRR, Mr. Ritchie was of the view that water level sensors could be installed, which would monitor the operating efficiency of the pumps. He was aware that the pumps for the TRRR accounted for approximately 30% of Dreamworld’s overall electricity bill, and such monitors may allow for the performance of the pumps to be adjusted to increase or decrease the operating capacity, thereby leading to a significant cost saving.

135. This memorandum was sent to Mr. Deaves by Mr. Ritchie via email. Subsequent discussions were had whereby Mr. Deaves advised that whilst he supported the additional work proposed, it could not proceed at this stage, with the focus to remain on the upgrades to the bottom of the conveyor. Mr. Ritchie understood that the potential hazard identified at the bottom of the conveyor needed to be rectified as a priority. He did not consider that a delay to the second stage of the project would have a negative impact on guests’ or Operator’s safety.

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Because, if so, I may not be reading that the same way you are.  I don't see anything in that which tells us that in the case of a drop in water level this system would disable the conveyor.  Instead, my reading of this is that if there was to be monitoring of the water level it was intended as an efficiency measure, rather than a safety measure.  I can't see anything here that indicates as part of the scoping of the project that they considered it a safety measure.

 

  On 25/02/2020 at 12:47 AM, Levithian said:

Heres an example. This expert was one tasked by the Office of Industrial Relations to investigate the ride control systems and its operation after the incident..

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Yes, that supports my suggestion that water level monitoring alone was not enough here - the important part is interfacing it to the conveyor system.

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  On 25/02/2020 at 1:00 AM, webslave said:

Are we talking about this section?

Because, if so, I may not be reading that the same way you are.  I don't see anything in that which tells us that in the case of a drop in water level this system would disable the conveyor.  Instead, my reading of this is that if there was to be monitoring of the water level it was intended as an efficiency measure, rather than a safety measure.  I can't see anything here that indicates as part of the scoping of the project that they considered it a safety measure.

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You missed the reasoning for the proposal, not the physical plans for the upgrade. Its in the paragraph above it. Starts at paragraph 129.

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  On 25/02/2020 at 1:06 AM, Levithian said:

You missed the reasoning for the proposal, not the physical plans for the upgrade. Its in the paragraph above it.

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Maybe I'm still missing it here (and if so I apologize), but I'm not seeing anything in paragraphs 128-130 that indicate that they considered a drop in water level had anything to do with operating the conveyor.  They seemed totally focused on rollbacks and stranding of a raft at the bottom of the conveyor, rather than water level and stranding at the top of the conveyor.  Taking that entire section as a whole the only time they talk about water level monitoring is in reference to efficiency rather than safety.

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  On 25/02/2020 at 12:50 AM, webslave said:

if you're prepared to make that assumption you would surely also have to be prepared to make the assumption that a one-button e-stop would also exist. 

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No. Because the investigation showed that they brought a company in to upgrade PLC and sensors, and eventually a touch screen control system. That company installed the chain break and raft sensor, and wired it into the PLC, and quoted for the water level sensor but were told not to proceed.

So it IS an easy assumption to say, that if they installed the water sensor, they'd have wired it to the PLC. A one button stop was also discussed, and not proceeded with.

  On 25/02/2020 at 12:50 AM, webslave said:

In fact, one of the more interesting things to come out of this report for me is that I don't believe the ride operators have any significant culpability here.

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These were some of the coroner's first words - he essentially cleared the ride operators of any fault.

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  On 25/02/2020 at 1:22 AM, AlexB said:

No. Because the investigation showed that they brought a company in to upgrade PLC and sensors, and eventually a touch screen control system. That company installed the chain break and raft sensor, and wired it into the PLC, and quoted for the water level sensor but were told not to proceed.

So it IS an easy assumption to say, that if they installed the water sensor, they'd have wired it to the PLC. A one button stop was also discussed, and not proceeded with.

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That would be true if they considered low water level a reason to stop the conveyor, which I haven't seen any evidence of. You could well be right that they would have, but I'd have a hard time based on what I've read in this document believing that they'd have gone that far prima-facie.

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  On 25/02/2020 at 1:00 AM, webslave said:

 

Yes, that supports my suggestion that water level monitoring alone was not enough here - the important part is interfacing it to the conveyor system.

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How can you infer that? It clearly states and is the view of multiple parties that a safety feature that monitored water levels is what was needed. 

The conveyor is already monitored and gated. How is it the problem? 

That they are proposing is that the water level monitoring would have, within seconds of the pump stopping, halted the conveyor. This would have caused a ride safety fault. This was 100% relied upon by humans to judge.

The report found this completely unacceptable, because even someone completely aware of the water level dropping would not be expected to react in time, and the difference between human and automated process would prevent an incident like this occurring 100%

Its why they keep ramming home the phrase risk assessment. Its literally a document that studies what is at risk, the potential for injury or death, how this risk can be mitigated or removed completely. 

They are so common they are used daily, across multiple facets. It shouldnt have even been a yearly thing, one should have been performed anytime someone was to work on the ride or attend a shut down because there is a massive risk to staff when working on plant equipment like this, so assessments remove complacency about the dangers of being in that environment. Following multiple shutdowns, the incidents should have been debriefed within the management team. Dreamworld acknowledged they have meetings that do exactly that, address failures and breakdowns. This is when further risk to ride operation should have been discussed.

Its why the report finds there is a systemic failure within the management of the park as every level of management ultimately failed to manage the risk. 

 

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  On 25/02/2020 at 1:25 AM, webslave said:

That would be true if they considered low water level a reason to stop the conveyor, which I haven't seen any evidence of.

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The ride operators manual considered pump failure to be the most serious issue - code 6 "operation ASAP". And the procedures for pump failure included initiating a shutdown of the ride including the conveyor.

around 1 minute passed between pump stoppage, until impact. Even if the PLC initiated a slow stop at the time of pump failure, it would still have been fast enough to prevent this, even based on the minimum 30 second despatch times.

I get what you're saying - nowhere is it spelled out bluntly that that is what it was for, and you can't take anything for granted given the gross negligence and ignorance, but there's enough there that even if water level was a cost factor first and a safety factor second, it'd still have been within scope and therefore under the PLC control in the pump interlocks.

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Just further to this - and perhaps somewhat in conflict with a couple of the other quotes provided here recently - these comments by Dr Frank W. Grigg, Forensic Engineering Consulting Pty Ltd strike me as interesting (my bolding);

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855. Dr Grigg noted that an automatic shutdown of the conveyor in the event that one of the pumps failed would have prevented the incident from occurring. Furthermore, had a means of detecting a stranded raft in the unload area been installed, which stopped the conveyor, the tragic incident would have been prevented, as had been the experienced in 2001. In relation to the incident in 2001, Dr Grigg concluded that this ‘provided clear operational experience of what could occur in the event that the movement of a raft became blocked after being discharged from the conveyor, even without pump failure and water level dropping’.

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Interestingly enough, this would suggest to me that such an incident was capable of occurring without the water level dropping, which begs the question as to whether water level monitoring and action (which would have been enough in this incident) was going to be a sufficient mitigation overall.  It's fair to say that shutting down the conveyor when the water level dropped in this case would have prevented this incident - but would it potentially have allowed a similar incident regardless?

I guess I'm taking exception to the notion that a $10k upgrade that included a water level sensor (of which it's in dispute whether this sensor was intended to stop the conveyor) was all that was needed to here to prevent disaster.  It's certainly a possible mitigation, but we know others were missed too - to focus all of the attention on a missing water level sensor is myopic.

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  On 25/02/2020 at 1:36 AM, webslave said:

h it's in dispute whether this sensor was intended to stop the conveyor) was all that was needed to here to prevent disaster.  It's certainly a possible mitigation, but we know others were missed too - to focus all of the attention on a missing water level sensor is myopic.

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Do you think if the pump didn't stop and the water level didn't drop the raft would have still flipped in this case?

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  On 25/02/2020 at 1:32 AM, AlexB said:

The ride operators manual considered pump failure to be the most serious issue - code 6 "operation ASAP". And the procedures for pump failure included initiating a shutdown of the ride including the conveyor.

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This is very true, however;

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Procedural Manual and associated supplementary memorandums, Professor Sanderson noted that: The manual does not specify the timeframe by which a shutdown needs to be performed in the event of a pump failure;

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Now, I may have forgotten by now if I read a part in the document where it says they considered what risk a pump failure actually caused to the operation of the ride, but I'm not sure if they ever properly made a link between the water level dropping requiring the immediate shutdown of the conveyor.  

  On 25/02/2020 at 1:32 AM, AlexB said:

I get what you're saying - nowhere is it spelled out bluntly that that is what it was for, and you can't take anything for granted given the gross negligence and ignorance, but there's enough there that even if water level was a cost factor first and a safety factor second, it'd still have been within scope and therefore under the PLC control in the pump interlocks.

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I'd very much hope it was in scope too.  I think we both get where each other is coming from, I guess in my case I just don't have the faith that they properly got the link between broken pump and conveyor.  I mean, was that link clearly apparent to all of us before the incident?  Personally, I think there's a stronger link (if I'm looking to mitigate a risk of collision/rollover caused by the conveyor) between an obstruction at the end of the conveyor and the conveyor itself.  After all, for me I'd be of the opinion that since an obstruction can happen with or without a drop in the water level that you're better off (and this assumes you're only going to test for one condition) making provision to detect an obstruction rather than detect low water level. 

  On 25/02/2020 at 1:46 AM, Skeeta said:

Do you think if the pump didn't stop and the water level didn't drop the raft would have still flipped in this case?

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In this case?  No.  But that line of argument has flaws because it can be applied to more than just the water level.  Would this case have still happened if;

- If the water level didn't drop? No.
- If the nip point didn't exist between the conveyor and the rails? No.
- If they conveyor wasn't missing slats? Unlikely.
- If the rails weren't there in the first place? No.
- If the training/labeling on the conveyor e-stop was adequate? Probably.
- If the ride hadn't already been taken out of service due to successive failures? No.
- If the ride had interlocking detection for a jam/obstruction at the top of the conveyor? No.

But I encourage you to look beyond this one incident and at the safety of the ride overall - could you have had a raft flip if;

- If the water level didn't drop? Yes.
- If the nip point didn't exist between the conveyor and the rails? No.
- If they conveyor wasn't missing slats? Possibly.
- If the rails weren't there in the first place? No?
- If the training/labeling on the conveyor e-stop was adequate? Probably.
- If the ride hadn't already been taken out of service due to successive failures? No, but this could have happened without prior failures.
- If the ride had interlocking detection for a jam/obstruction at the top of the conveyor? No.

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