Richard

I know Dreamworld's website say that they have 11 lands, but about half of them are nothing more than a building or two. I would say personally that they have around six true lands in total. Furthermore, you do realise that Thunderbolt's removal freed up a lot of land. They would be able to add an extra 20%+ to the park with that plot. Explain to me how Dreamworld has always had original rides? I can not name a single ride that's not been done elsewhere. Of what they've got, only Wipeout and Tower of Terror are truly unique to Australia. And what's so wacky about a standup or flying coaster?

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Wind's still a major factor, though it rarely gets up to the speeds it needs. If they weren't there, wind would be a huge factor. If those cables weren't held down, it would make no difference even if there was full load on them - they'd still be flopping around up there with the slightest breeze. They're found probably every 75-100ft or so up the tower, so they're not exactly close together. And you're pretty much spot-on with how they work. The reason they're not needed on a ride like Space Proble would be they would be ineffective on such a small ride.

Well, as I said, it was a cheap and quick video I made. I took the segment of video I needed, opened it, stuck on the title and end, stuck the song in and rendered it. I wasn't exactly aiming for an Oscar with it.

It's perfectly possible to build a ride and just make it look nice. I'd especially have to disagree with attempting a storyline, it's just hard to pull off. Just put some nice plants around the ride, don't skimp on the turf - we don't want to see dirt or roads under the ride, and especially don't build these hideous white sheds we're seeing dominate our parks in recent years. I say build a nicely spread out area with all the appropriate things - not just rides. Some flat rides, some shops, some amenities, some trees, some benches and throw in some coasters towards the back and spread them out over towards the back of the park where they're not wasting the highly useable land of Thunderbolt. The thing is, from what I can gather, their master plan for the area does include much more than just thrill rides. Just expect it to be a fairly nice area a decade from now, with much more than thrill rides.

A bit above the middle of the photo is two thin tubular steel devices. They look like a television antenna or something similar to that. That's the device and it's hard to explain how they close off or see it from the picture, but let's just say that they move to close around the cable when the catch car is below it and open as it comes near. I've attached another shot. The above one was with it opened. This one is closed - you can see the two cables running through it.

Some people really need to get out there and see some quality movies. Not the filth that Hollywood produces. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000095/ I've personally never ridden any of those odd rides down at Surfers. For one thing, they're way too expensive for any local to be at all interested in (I'm calling myself a Gold Coast local now... what is the world coming too ), and then I'm not totally confident that they are the best designed, maintained or operated rides out there. Check out a cheap and quick video I put together some time last year for Vomatron. http://www.totalthrills.com/videos/vomatron.mov Ironically enough, anyone familiar with Woody Allen films will recognise the white text-on-black opening credits and the classic New Orleansy jazz soundtrack. The song I'd say is very similar to what Allen used in his 1973 film Sleeper, arguably his funniest and stupidest movie about an Orwellian totalitarian future. The soundtrack in that one was all written by Woody Allen himself though, whereas the piece I used was one by a Japanese artist called Toshiyuki Honda.

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Good to see that project coming closer and closer to reality. It was a shame with the Docklands Paramount deal down there a few years ago. This isn't quite as nice, but it's certainly pretty promising. ABC's been getting a lot of criticism for this, but I say go for it. They have pretty bad funding and budget problems at the moment, this can only help alleviate their dependance on the Government.

Well, given the German ride is a clone of ours, let's say that one doesn't count . Still, that's two/three in the world. Pretty darn unique I'd say. Looking at those pics, ours is pretty much the same. replace the medieval style theming with Australian wilderness and that's our ride. Even down to the Tunes sitting in around a mock movie set and Porky and Tweetie fishing in a later scene.

Without going into too much detail about the couplers, here's a picture. It's not the greatest - you can't really get an idea of how they work, but you can understand the circumstances which could lead to the thing hitting. Those two tubey-things close around the cable when the catch car is down and open up as the car goes up to let it pass.

Construct some sentences and some basic thoughts and then come back and try posting a thread here.

Well, hang on. What are we talking about, the cable coupling incident or this cable snapping thing? The cable couplers are these steel cars built onto the tower which close around the cables when the catch car is low to stop the cables moving around. They open up one-by-one as the catch car goes up. What happened was one of them didn't flatten properly and on the way down the gondola hit it, causing a nice bang. I've personally never heard of a cable snapping on Giant Drop. Space Probe's does sound vaguely familiar though.

There was an incident on Giant Drop quite a few years ago. I can't remember it exactly, but I believe the cable couplers didn't set properly and the gondola struck one on the way down causing a bit of mess. This is why they have those cages over the top of the seats now (nothing quite like Dreamworld's knee-jerk reactions ).

I'm anything but a traveling ride expert, but isn't Cliffhanger the Ranger-type ride, only floorless? http://www.totalthrills.com/ekgallery.php?page=ekka40 Someone'll confirm or correct me on that one, I hope.

Some sort of routine failure left people standed halfway up for about 15 minutes. They took the ride down and subjected it to an inspection just to be safe, even though it was a fairly standard error that left the ride stopped. During the inspection they found something needed repairs on I believe the main drive and took the ride down immediately to perform these tasks. For about a quarter or more of 2002 the West side of Giant Drop didn't operate - this is why.

Tony Braxton-Smith didn't come from a theme park background. His previous jobs were actually in South America for foodservice companies, yet he really was one of the best things to ever happen to Dreamworld. I first spoke with Tony Braxton-Smith in around January of 2002, around 18 months after he started with Dreamworld. Just through what he said about what went wrong with Giant Drop (which prompted my initial call) and then in regards to what they were looking into doing with Thunderbolt at that time, I realised I was talking to someone who was more clued in on the industry than most seasoned theme park careerists out there are. Where are we going to get "theme park" experts from here anyway? Anyone good enough internationally is getting a lot more than they'd ever get here (Six Flags and Cedar Fair's CEOs are both on around US$5mil+ a year) and there aren't too many other parks in this country to start off with to trade management with. Gregg's past 15 years include managing Tourism Queensland and General Manager for Northern Territory Tourist Commission before that. Obviously no one can judge something that hasn't happened yet, but there's not too much not going in his favour in regards to experience and ability etc.

Short answer yes. If something's just plain rubbish then I'll delete it.

I'd check over what's been said and make sure you're referring to the right people, Schwarz_freak. You're not exactly flattering people.

I guess that means that the page was updated around about when the incident first occured, meaning Scooby-Doo Spooky Coaster was about 18 months old at the time. Still hardly new.

Given that they're acronyms, they should be LOL, TOT, GD, SP, but yes they can be used. They are useful, because for instance saying WBMW or MW is much easier than saying Warner Bros. Movie World or Movie World all the time and everyone knows what you mean. My point is with words such as "u", "r", "cuz" and that sort of stuff. Very different from what's above, and quite hard to understand when they are used.

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I don't have any pictures from inside - it's dark in there, and the park does have a somewhat bizarre (though understandable) "no camera flashes in the park" policy. It's pretty hard to describe if you've never ridden, but just picture some The drop is nothing more than maybe a storey or two tall. It's a gentle drop with a 90º turn to the left. The lift is unique in that it's an elevator - how many water/boat rides do you know that feature an elevator lift?

I was looking over the Movie World website earlier, and saw something I hadn't noticed before. Apparently Scooby-Doo Spooky Coaster is a new ride at the park. Doesn't that just give you faith in the park's idea of how long a ride is new. I could fully understand it a year ago (back then I was still visiting the park semi-almost-regularly because the ride and the park was still attractive to me), but come on - the thing's going on two years! Yes, it's a great ride, yes Scooby-Doo 2 is out in cinemas, but sorry, it's not new. I know it's a bit petty, but I think this just shows the sort of unrealistic return that WVTP expect from their attractions. I love their parks, but it's just that Movie World is really quite neglected (neglect doesn't always mean badly maintained or not cared for you know), and most or all of its problems are simply looked over - after all who cares if a park is half the capacity it should be, given the crowds it gets? "Hey, I queue for 45 minutes to buy my ticket. This place must be good!"