Richard

There was specific mention in the first post of the Christmas Holidays being the time of the visit. At this point all parks operate at maximum capacity. With the exception of unforseen circumstances coasters will run as many trains as they are capable of. That said, 15 minutes is absolutely nothing for a coaster. If anyone considers that a lengthy wait then I'd hate to see you in an hour or 90 minute queue. As a very general rule of thumb (this certainly doesn't hold true for all rides), if the queue house for the ride in question isn't full your queue should be under 90 minutes. Some cases will be more, some will be less. Use common sense and you should be fine. Dreamworld is the park you most need to be strategic if you want to get everything done. It's all been mentioned here more or less, but I'll add some more. Hit Giant Drop first. The only time this thing isn't agonising to queue for is when there is no queue. While you're in this part of the park give Eureka Mountain a ride. It's very much an overlooked attraction but its abysmal capacity means that you'll waste a lot of time queuing for a mediocre ride if you don't hit it early. Time better spent queuing for better rides. Cyclone would be your next best bet. It's a combination of a low capacity and a big queue house which means it has a very full queue most of the day. Just have to resist the urge to ride the queueless The Claw and Wipeout as you walk to it. I'd go Tower of Terror next but its small queue house means it's often reasonably quick to get on despite being a lower capacity ride. If you hold off until later in the day, provided you're not joining the queue outside it won't be a bad wait. Runaway Reptar is a good choice next if you want to ride it (it's not that bad) because it tends to draw huge queues. From here it's up to you. Thunder River will be a big queue all day, but eventually the Queensland heat will get to you and you'll do anything to be wet. Rocky Hollow generally has smaller queues because of its location and small queue house. All the flat rides in Ocean Parade will be very easy to knock over. You'll probably have to consider a two-day ticket at this time of year (or whatever multi-park equivalent they may be offering by this point) with the family because I'm sure you'll be spending a lot of time in the animal sections of the park and at Wiggles World, Nickelodeon Central etc., as well as taking things at a slower pace with the kids than most members here would. The other Gold Coast parks don't need the same kind of attention and strategies. Sea World's rides are all easy to accomplish in a day, along with all the shows and animal attractions. Warner Bros. Movie World's major rides are all high capacity (Superman Escape, Scooby-Doo, Wild West Falls and Lethal Weapon are all 1000pph - the highest capacity on the Gold Coast - when running at full capacity) and you should be done with them in a few short hours to give you plenty of time with the shows and other smaller attractions. In case anyone didn't pick up on it, the Mexico in question isn't quite as far away as America. Think of Queensland as the USA and, well, south of the border is Mexico.

Welcome along! Always great to see new faces posting here. It'd be great to get this park into our database here. If anyone has information about the park and its specific attractions you can add it to the site here.

Agreed with scott. I've gone through and deleted a few posts that weren't relevant. If you want to post non-related comments by all means start a new thread, but don't steer an interesting topic off track for no good reason. If you want to talk to a single member do so using the Personal Message system.

Five days is still next to no time. Put it this way: if tickets were selling very well they're not going to cut costs so dramatically, albeit for such a relatively small group. I'm by no means suggesting it won't go well. I'm sure the combined marketing power of Coca-Cola, WBMW and Ticketek will prevail, but this was most likely a backup option which they'd only pull out if sales weren't quite up to scratch.

Interesting they've waited until so late to release this offer. My guess would be sales aren't quite at what they were expecting.

Interesting read. I know ING are trying to secure a major sponsor for the attraction (who will get full branding rights to the attraction, for example "The Qantas Southern Star Observation Wheel") which will knock out a considerable chunk of the costs associated. Unlike a roller coaster which has maybe five years at the most of direct influence on the park's attendance, this attraction will be a signature tourist attraction in Melbourne for years and years to come and will be a consistent money-maker. My understanding is it is ING's intentions to sell off the attraction once it is established, so they won't be in it for the long-run. To pay it off in five years, they only need to attract 1 million guests per year. When you break that down, assuming a 12 hour day (10am-10pm), that's less than four guests boarding per minute. They're actually aiming for 1.5 million riders a year so it should operating profitably within only three years of opening. I'm just puzzled why they didn't add an extra 16 metres and go for the world record. Celebrating 120 years since it was 100 years since Cap. Arthur Phillip setup the Australian colony?

It's manageable debt. Most companies out there have debt. It's a fairly standard thing - seen by the fact that the parks also carry significant debt. WhiteWater World is being funded primarily by debt. It's only when you're like Six Flags who have more debt than they could pay off with their profits that it becomes an issue. I'll be interested to see what this means for the hotel long-term. If Village end up putting a hotel at the Oxenford site (which is logical given the four growing tourist attractions there)

Article: Village Roadshow buys Nara Resort Monday 25 September 2006 - Sea World Village Roadshow, owners of the Sea World, Warner Bros. Movie World and Wet'n'Wild theme parks on the Gold Coast has announced its plans to purchase the remaining 50% of the Sea World-based hotel. Read On...

Agreed on the database page, it's sorely needing some TLC. I hope to completely redo the landing page and the "view all" pages. I definitely want to create better linkage to the Opinions and the Counter (checkboxes to completely add and edit your park counter in one hit from the same page). I realised when I added the thumbnail navigator that the text "Page x: " system is pretty redundant (and always has been). Back in the old days each gallery page was a separate gallery entry so quite often a gallery would comprise of three or four different topics (such as major construction of a new ride + minor updates from around the park). It doesn't work like this anymore so it's not really serving any meaningful purpose. While I'm here, if anyone is interested in the recent downtime, it was a network issue that was totally out of the control of us or even our service providers at the datacentre where we lease space.

Yeah those errors should only have been temporary. If you're still getting the size/alignment issue try refreshing.

Anyone who regularly visits the front page of this site will know that over the months since this version of the site was introduced in April, the layout has slowly been revised and changed (I believe for the better) as new and improved functionality has been put into place. A complete rehaul of how articles display was the first major change made, basing the layout of articles on major news and newspaper websites. With this came a vastly improved article submission system. Most recently I have redesigned the "Other News" section of the index page to make it far more graphically oriented. With this came a redesign of the News Archive page. A graphical navigation system has also been introduced for our Gallery system (example here) which displays the entire gallery with tiny thumbnails at the bottom of the page so you know where you are and what's on other pages of the gallery. I hope to expand on and refine this system as times goes on. I'd really appreciate any comments or suggestions regarding the site's design. I strongly believe it's currently among the best looking theme park websites in the world and is worlds easier to navigate than most, but I also know there's plenty of room for improvement and if anyone has anything they'd like to see or not see then let me know.

It's been about 12 years since I was at Taronga, but my feeling is that it is more geared towards locals and a generally domestic audience, with a focus on animals of the world rather than native creatures. My thinking is it'll definitely feel the pressure of another CBD-accessible wildlife park, but I believe it's such an Australian instutition that there will always be a way for it to survive. An interesting on article on the matter can be seen here: http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/is-tar...7827160838.html

Yeah? That's gotta be clogging up the pathways a bit. There's not all that much room there to begin with. I'd be interested to hear how it is if anyone does decide to give it a look. I'm guessing the tie-in with Prison Break is dubious at best, especially if the Lynton V. Harris produced Tomb Raider at Dreamworld was anything to go by.

The Luna Palace is typically home to these kinds of things. It's upstairs from the arcade/dogems. http://www.roller-coaster.com.au/gallery.php?gid=133

I've split it into a new topic because I think what you've brought up is a very interesting argument. A month ago we got the news that Luna Park would be replacing their century-old Carousel with a cheap plastic import. Why? Because they're not willing to pay its owner to buy the full restored original carousel. Fact is the park is managed by a company who is willing to sell out its history in the name of making a quick buck. What's to stop them removing the Rotor down the track? History has shown with both Luna Parks that heritage orders can be circumvented. At the end of the day, a soleless company is managing the park. I really couldn't care less if this were the case with a 'modern' theme park, but such a company shouldn't be charged with maintaining a park with the vidid and lengthy history of Luna Park.

I should just add that this price information is pretty sketchy. The stuff about value is correct (the two park passes will be better value etc.) but I'm certainly not 100% on the ticket price. This may actually be the average ticket price or something different. It comes from a reliable source from outside of the company and not in the theme park industry so I'm not convinced it's up to date or totally accurate.

Because it's from a different part of the website, not the front page. http://www.whitewaterworld.com.au/tpgc/index.html

I didn't mean outright better value than the Village pass - it's obvious that three parks is "beter" than two. It will be better value in terms of what you are getting versus what you will pay for it.

Tickets will be around the $32 mark. This is $8 cheaper than Wet'n'Wild, which obviously reflects an acknowledgement that Macquarie Leisure are aware of Wet'n'Wild's stronghold on the market, and also the fact that the park is somewhat smaller and less developed. Two park passes will be cheaper and work out to be better value than the Three Park Super Pass.

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The slide image is from Adventure World.

Yeah, just a simple splash page at this stage. Though we've got the final full-colour logo featured on their page. http://www.roller-coaster.com.au/article.php?aid=118 Of most interest I think is the use of the name "World Pass" for the two park passes. Tickets go on sale November 1 for both the World Passes and WhiteWater World.

I'd say it should coincide with the official announcements and full release of information which is expected in October, so around then would be about right.

I would expect that the key reason for the length of time is finance related. The article cited that they are relying on a strong season to fund the first phase and when you're looking at a family-owned park with only relatively small attendance (200,000 in 2003-04; I'd expect this is up to 250-300 now with the recent additions), the scope for large-scale expansion is fairly limited because there's smaller money-making opportunities and significantly smaller equity than say the Gold Coast parks. It's very likely that ProSlide encouraged them to sign a multi-attraction contract, the incentive to Jamberoo being a significant enough discount to warrant such forward planning and of course ProSlide are guaranteed a customer for 5+ years. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a clause that allows them to change ordered attractions down the track within a certain time frame etc. based on altered public perceptions, modified rides/improved technology or new product lines. I'm not so sure novelty plays any significant factor in water parks, quite like it does with theme parks. A simple way to demonstrate this - Wet'n'Wild's attendance continued to increase in the five years of virtually nothing between Mammoth Falls and Extreme H2O Zone. Their attendance is also not reliant on the tourist market but rather the locals, evident by their pricing of annual passes (the day to year price ratio is highest by a long shot at Wet'n'Wild). A water park really has very different motivators to a regular theme park. I fully agree that it's a bit odd to be planning these things so specifically five years in advance but at the end of the day it's a strategy which Jamberoo obviously believes is the most conducive to growth.

No, we're not quite there yet, but interestingly they have now redirected www.whitewaterworld.com.au to the Dreamworld website. No doubt they've been getting a few hits from us and decided to make the most of them before the new park's website launches.