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Interesting. New attractions are meant to boost attendance figures. Going by this statement, the proposed new attractions for Jamberoo could take a very long time to come to fruition, if at all. This is especially true if attendance figures had fallen by 15.2% on last year. A new attraction is a guaranteed way to increase numbers for any park and this is extremely important for Jamberoo. It cannot be seen to be stagnant too long while the new kid on the block gets all the accolades and press. Jamberoo has built up some nice momentum for new attractions since the introduction of Taipan and it would be a shame for this to stall prematurely. Hopefully , we can see their future expansion plans back on track, and sooner rather than later. They must keep evolving if they are to match what Wet' N Wild Sydney has to offer.
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BigKev I think you will find that Tailspin is a direct replacement for Reef Diver. Stingray was closed earlier.
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Well I am at a disadvantage as I have not ridden it at this point in time. However , I thought that the ride had generally had positive reviews. Interesting! What are everyone's opinion of the ride itself?? From an enthusiasts point of view and also from a general public point of view? Is the ride popular? Does it lend itself easily for re-rides?
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Parkz News Sea World's Sea Viper closes after 32 years
Jobe replied to Parkz News's topic in Theme Park Discussion
Wow!! That is very very quick!! Maybe our idle speculation on its replacement could be closer to reality than we all think!! Maybe plans are further advanced than we think!! -
Yeah we did but on what level has Pandemonium failed??
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Hehe! Seriously though, it seems with this latest refurb on Wipeout, Tail Spin's introduction and the knowledge that several older attractions are due to receive some TLC ( starting with Rocky Hollow ) , it appears that Dreamworld is finally taking some positive steps in the right direction. The info that Skyra is imparting is excellent and I hope that the big announcement that he has been touting for Dreamworld continues in the same postive vein. Personally, I am looking forward to Tailspin. It has a number of positives- Australian first, it was a quick replacement for a old ride, and it will capture the publics imagination. While it may not be the coaster that we all HOPE Dreamworld gets just yet, I cannot see anything but this ride being a hit.
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Ah no. No we wont. That would be entirely inaccurate and the intention behind your post would be demeaning to both Dreamworld AND Luna Park.
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And we are also now postulating that the announcement involves a B & M, given the topic at hand........
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Parkz News Sea World's Sea Viper closes after 32 years
Jobe replied to Parkz News's topic in Theme Park Discussion
Yeah its a regret of mine that I never,ever got to ride it- neither when it was at Luna Park Sydney where it was known as Geronimo or when it was at Adventure World. The closest I got to riding it was watching my father ride it in 1983 not long after LPS had reopened after the Ghost Train tragedy. ( I was very young) . Shame. However I certainly do remember the Chipmunk travelling coaster with a great degree of fondness! Loved that ride and the space age looking cars- it was brilliant!!! I used to ride this every year without fail when it came to the local show. It must have travelled the East Coast of Australia for over a decade. It always felt so out of control- its a pity it went stateside. I had heard about its fate- it finally went the way of the scrapyard. It was manufactured by Miler Manufacturing, a little known coaster company in the US. Great times and memories! As far as the Python Loop is concerned , I have never ridden it. I know that it is a Pinfari model but it usually sticks the Western and Southern Australia- to my knowledge it has never travelled the East coast before. I would like to ride it for the credit but to be honest it does not look like it is anything special. -
Luna Park Sydney - the future with Wet'n'Wild
Jobe replied to JulieLovis's topic in Theme Park Discussion
Just looked this up on RCDB. Looks very impressive. This is the ride DreamWorld SHOULD have got. Would love a clone for LPS but options would be very limited as to where to position it. The only 2 positions off the top of my head where it could go are: 1) Out the back in Maloney's Corner directly parallel to the back of Coney Island or 2) The ride looks like it has a very narrow footprint and is 863 feet in length. It COULD be a perfect fit for the space that runs in between the Tumblebug slab/Big Top area and the cliff face. This is currently used as an access/maintenance staff corridor but these could be moved further down. Its not that long that it would not encroach upon the current LPS offices and you could have access and the queue line go up and over the Tumblebug slab. It is quite tall at 150 feet versus the previous Big Dipper at 131 feet but if it was positioned in this corridor then half of the ride would be enveloped by the cliff face on one side and the Big Top on the other, so screams and sounds should be quite localised. All in all a winner!!! Hopefully LPS is listening to our suggestions!! -
Parkz News Sea World's Sea Viper closes after 32 years
Jobe replied to Parkz News's topic in Theme Park Discussion
Hehe true! Well I want all and sundry to know that if Luna Park Sydney get a Maurer Sohne Spinning coaster then it was at my constant urging. -
The plaque is only part of the memorial that LPS has for the Ghost Train tragedy. On top of the car park there is a garden which comprises some of the historic Moreton Bay figs that have graced the site since before the park was built. This green space forms part of the memorial for the 7 people that lost their lives that night. Access to this is only available from the top of Alfred Street adjacent to the entrance of the car park.
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Parkz News Sea World's Sea Viper closes after 32 years
Jobe replied to Parkz News's topic in Theme Park Discussion
Don't forget that this is purely speculation on the part of this forum and board. Merely bombarding SeaWorld with e-mails calling for the immediate installation of Led Zeppelin would probably be ignored and no doubt they are already forging ahead with plans that are at this point , unrealised and not public knowledge. Just because we think it is a great idea doesn't mean the park will follow our lead. Good point Richard. If by chance SeaWorld were to install Led Zeppelin , this could also be a precursor for other Australian parks to seriously consider installing more rides of this benchmark into their lineup- especially if it was embraced by the public as a whole. As I said in my previous post- this would be a unique opportunity to obtain a ride of this calibre from the 2nd hand market in great material condition. As you have pointed out, the marketing opportunities would be endless and my word, it would certainly look good across the Spit and really project SeaWorld back into the forefront of the public consciousness, as far as rides are concerned. So realistically what are the chances of SeaWorld buying Led Zeppelin? Pretty slim and narrow in my estimation. But that's not to say that it is not a good idea- the reality is that Village Roadshow most probably already know what they are going to do with the land vacated by Sea Viper when it eventually is removed. The real question is how long will it be before they move forward with these plans?? Will Sea Viper sit idle SBNO for years or will the whole process be very quick?? Hopefully , if their plans are advanced it is the latter. -
The thing about common sense is that it really isn't that common unfortunately........................ :angry2:
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There were many strange coincidences about that tragic day....that is but another story!!
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Parkz News Sea World's Sea Viper closes after 32 years
Jobe replied to Parkz News's topic in Theme Park Discussion
To be fair Turbo Mountain was installed from 1991 to 2009 - 18 years in total. That represents pretty good value for a ride that was already considered old when it was installed in '91. Schwarzkopf's god bless them!!! -
There have been several deaths at Luna Park Melbourne specifically related to the Scenic Railway and the Big Dipper.Mr Clarence Hurst was killed on the Scenic Railway Rollercoaster in January 1926, after he turned around to speak to someone behind him. As he was half hanging out of the car his head was struck by one of the coasters supports. The man next to him grabbed hold of his legs to stop him from falling out, but Hurst was already dead. The Big Dipper was another of the parks rollercoaster’s, and in March of 1935 it too saw a fatality. Mr M Dyer, 21, fell out of the car at the highest point of the ride, and fell 74 feet to his death. He died of multiple broken bones, internal injuries and a severed leg. The following year, Harry Maltby died, when he fell out of one trolley car to be struck by another. However there was one death at LPM , whilst not attributed to death by amusement device, was most peculiar. Mrs Elizabeth Patrick was walking out of the park and along the street when she suddenly complained that she was going to collapse. Her final words to her husband Earnest Patrick were 'Get me out quick, I'm fainting.' before promptly hitting the pavement. At the time Elizabeth Patrick had fainted, a Luna Park superintendant was collecting ticket money from the cashiers aided by three park attendants. One of the attendants, Keith Eagle, left the group in order to tell three youths to move on and leave the park after they had made a disturbance. The leader of the three youths, Edward Paulin, told Eagle that they were doing no wrong, and why should they leave. Eagle pulled out his firearm (carried when the park was full and he was escorting money transportation) and fired a shot. Edward Paulin threw two bottles at Eagle, who fired another shot. This second shot hit a person witnessing the events in the hand. After firing this second shot Eagle handed his firearm to another of the park attendants, Alexander Porter, who shot himself in the leg when putting it into his pocket. Three shots were fired that night and three people were hit. The first shot had in fact hit, and killed, Elizabeth Patrick. Her husband, only learning of this when a doctor at the hospital had told him his wife had been shot! The result of the following trial was that death was due to misadventure, and the only thing Eagle was guilty of was carelessness (just short of criminal negligence). The park changed its method of escorting money shortly after. A man also fell from the Big Dipper at LPS on the 27th April 1946 to his death. This man had reportedly been standing up several times on the rides journey and during the final turn into the station he attempted to sit on the back of the seat and fell out as the car rounded the final bend. This is true although there are theories that poor practices were not the final cause of the Ghost train deaths. The Ghost train normally operated with three attendants- an operator, a ticket collector and a third person who patrolled the interior watching for mischief. On the night of the fire, there were only 2 staff, leaving the interior unpatrolled and vulnerable. Whilst I am not sure why this third person was not at the Ghost Train on the night it is obvious that it should never have been allowed to happen. Below is a link to an article that links crime boss Abe Saffron directly to the deaths and the accident at LPS that night. Whilst never proven, this conspiracy theory has persisted since that fateful night and does provide food for thought. http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/niece-links-abe-saffron-to-luna-park-deaths/2007/05/25/1179601666851.html
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Parkz News Sea World's Sea Viper closes after 32 years
Jobe replied to Parkz News's topic in Theme Park Discussion
Absolutely agree AlexB and Brad2912. There is absolutely no place for Demon/Zoomerang at SeaWorld- hell if they WERE going to buy a 2nd hand ride then Led Zeppelin would be a far better, more logical choice. Led Zeppelin would represent excellent buying, be an Australian first insofar it would be the first B&M downunder, it is in excellent condition and was only used for 2 very short seasons. Rides like these and opportunities to purchase them do not come up often. I would even hesitate to see it go to Aussie World or Adventure World- there are far better options out there for the money you would invest in purchasing Zoomerang and then shipping and re-erecting on site. I do not feel that the $1.1 million purchase price actually represents good value. -
Accidents do happen unfortunately. Gears fail, metal fatigue and stress can all play factors in theses tragic instances. I just hope that we never have an fatal accident in Australia where the park is found guilty of having deficiencies in maintenance. Lives and safety should never ever be put 2nd before the almighty dollar.
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Parkz News Sea World's Sea Viper closes after 32 years
Jobe replied to Parkz News's topic in Theme Park Discussion
It certainly does!! Will be very interesting to see where it calls home next!!! -
Parkz News Sea World's Sea Viper closes after 32 years
Jobe replied to Parkz News's topic in Theme Park Discussion
With speculation that Sea World as a possibilty could potentially purchase the former Hard Rock B&M Led Zeppelin, comes news of another former Australian coaster finally being sold. Zoomerang , the former Demon from Wonderland has finally found a buyer. The price was reduced from 1.8 million to 1.1 million, its destination and buyer unknown. Keep a lookout for it appearing in a park somwhere soon!! Here is the link: http://www.intermarkridegroup.com/roller-coasters/vekoma-boomrang-rc1300 -
Parkz News Sea World's Sea Viper closes after 32 years
Jobe replied to Parkz News's topic in Theme Park Discussion
Ah no. Do not agree. A thrilling family coaster would be ideal for Sea Worlds target demographic.