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lol, how can they "remain" number one for thrill rides if theyre not there in the first place?

It could just be a little park with a few slides, Its not really that expensive since it would be able to use Aussie worlds exisiting infastructure. From memory the racing slide at Jamberoo was 1 million, which is not too bad for such a large expanse of fibreglass. I think for maybe only a few million (single digits) they could get a nice lineup that suits the park.

The thing is is that Tornados are expensive and space consuming so having 2 wouldnt be practical, but yeah you are probably right about the lines, though i think its one of those things you would only ride a couple of times, not something you keep re-riding.

DW rulz, you could go ride Sidewinders, Terror Canyon 1 & 2, Black Hole, Bombora, Pipeline, Riptide, Cascade, Mammoth Falls, Calypso Beach (All the way around) or Whirlpool. They are all pretty long slides (Remember, some of the Extreme H20 slides are Australias longest). You could go ride them.... The thing with having a twisting and turning Tornado is the impact on througput. The thing can only have one raft in it, and can only do 4 people at a time, so it would have long lines, to have more twisting and turning like some of the american parks would increase the ride time, and therefore lines. Plus IMO all it does is delay you from getting to the fun part. I think it would be better if the twists and turns were at the end of the ride, because once the raft got out of the funnel it would be safe for another raft to go in.

I like the sound of this new park, Its not run by a big buisness so I think we could expect something nice, in some ways Aussie World is sort of like our Holiday World, not the biggest but still nice.

Why does everyone judge stuff by the size of the supports? Is anyone here even that knowledgeable on what size supports are actually needed?

No, but It has been mentioned by a few WVTP staff members.

One little idea, but I doubt we will see it, is the possibilty of master blasters, since they dont require such a high towers. I was hoping that we would see more slides off a smaller tower, i wouldnt have minded if there were several shorter slides off the tower rather than 2 big ones like at WnW, but if you look at the Cyclone Helix tower you can see that there is only provision for four slides (look at the spacing between the posts on the highest level, there are 3 big gaps for the starter tubs, but where a fourth would have gone is empty. Still, we can hope for something, though they better have something because WnW is a HUGE act to follow now. Edit: I think i know why the flowrider wasnt put into the waterpark, could it be simply because the wave pool will be surfable (Like Sunway or Typhoon Lagoon)

Its probably for the best, imagine the plane ride over.

Its going to be fun squeezing the raft up those stairs.

Well, when I was there nothing had happened, i think its just a case of Theming that is vandal proof (Though this means it is bland) The "How to Board" TVs are high up and completely inaccessible, the posters are covered with plastic, and as yet nobody had written on the walls, in fact the only "vandalisim" I saw at MW was the theming on LW as you come around the corner in the queue towards the gates. Plus the fact the area is manned helps out as the Control Room looks out over the whole queue, and there is the checker at the entrance, as well as the grouper at the top of the queue, so that would be a good detterent. Wait, i know why, everyones textas or keys to scratch with or whatever they vandalise with would be in the Lockers by that point. Hmmmm, maybe the lockers arent bad news after all. But back to it: Nobody said the innovative rides would be small did they, its all negative assumptions at this point. But anyway, I actually like the flowrider, ive been waiting for a park to put one in, and it seemed only WnW would be able to do it, but i was wrong....

THANKYOU! Nice pics too, just what I've been waiting for.

I think SFMM is just too well known and Enjoyed to be disposed of, the place has potential and I dont think anyone would go to the effort of ripping up 17 coasters and all the other stuff there for housing. Some of the other Parks listed such as Elich Gardens, Water World and Splash Town which are in the middle of cities would be more likely to go since they arent really major.

Well, if they said "Rides and Attractions" then "Rides" would suggest conventional rides. I dont know why you would oppose New Breed attractions though, arent new rides the best ones, or are you a fan of Classic Arrow coasters or some 80s Huss rides. Personally I like new rides, like Accelerators and Screamin Squirels, Topple Towers and Tornados, Floorless coasters and Sky Swatters. How could you not want any of these?

Well, you have to have some confidence in DWs decisions, have any of their new rides been flops? No (Well creature cruise maybe) so I would expect this to have a similar level of sucess. As for them going after the surfer market, well they are a market arent they, money is money so why not seek to appeal to another group. I dont think familes would be hanging out near flowrider anyway, wouldnt they be in Nick Central or Wiggles Wad? But everyone seems to be complaining about them becoming an experience park, but AWE has been there from the early days of DW, BB was just a sucessful tie in and was intialy fairly seperate from the main park. This is their only real proper "experience". I suppose you could count the joy flights too, but come to think of it, SW has them as well, hang on, SW has tons of "experiences", theres the watersports, jet skis, snorkeling and scuba diving in shark day, dolphin swims etc, and here you are complaing that DW is offering a water sport. At worst, all i can see DW doing is adding a few more upcharge things, like a skycoaster, which is actually fairly commonplace in the theme park world (Eg with CPs challenge park, SF having go carts and those big arch things) I dont think DW will stop adding rides any time soon, the competitive pressure from WVTP is too strong, and it would make me happy to see MW doing better anyway. But here is a theory I have, i think flowrider was intialy going to be a water park ride, but maybe after all the extra stuff WVTP has done (And is continuing to do) DW decided they couldnt hold out till the end of the year and opened this early to have something to compete. As for the future of DW, well they are going to have to do something with that 7 (or was it 6) million of Capex they commited per year, though they might have pissed up 10 years worth to build the waterpark (Though that might be a separate investment not counted in that) As for your question, I would like to see more experiences as DW do not deserve good rides and more "experiences" would serve to make them even worse compared to WVTP.

Rabid I have actually been pretty impressed with your updates, Tornado has been well covered its just DWWP has been left in the dark for the past 3 weeks, though i dont blame you because as you said you have other commitments, and DW is a bit out of the way compared to just going next door to WnW.

Ah yes, the old classic, Roller Toaster Cycoon.

Hopefully it will, but SWs waterpark is just small, i wouldnt really call it crappy because there is a difference. It may have only 2 towers, but remember the largest tower used to have 6 slides coming off it, and the other one only has 2, but as you know they can easily have more. Maybe that because they are the newest, so a new tower needs to be built because existing ones in these parks wont fit any more or dont have enough ground space for a new ride coming off. Plus look at this pic, you can clearly see new generation rides like bowls sharing a tower with high speed tube slides, raft slides etc... But when you think about it, before extreme H20 zone WnW had only 4 towers (Super 8, Speedcoaster & Twister, Mammoth Falls, and essentialy white water mountain (since it used to be a timber platform before they added the mountain)) so DW would be having one less, but they could always combine more into one. Plus one thing everyone is forgetting is expansions, they might be deliberately opening DWWP small so they can trade off the novelty of a small park in the first year or so, but then put in a few new rides in the years following to gain extra visitors from that.

Yeah, ill agree on the roughness, it wasnt too bad the only part where it was a problem was the helix. As for the pipes blowing out air, in summer they have misters in front of them to keep it cooler. But still comparing the ride to some of the others here you can see how it is pretty poor. Like from the entrance you can see how the theming people had no clue, i mean, sitcking the back panel of a van on a wall: is that supposed to make us think it is parked in there? bits of random stuff put on the walls, as supposed "spare parts" (we all know it was just a whipper snipper), a turbine with streamers: what is this, an air con salesroom? they could at least turn it on. As you move through there is a bouncy floor (Oh i get it, cyclones<->bouncy floors), and then you get to the station doors where you are subjected to those flashing lights while you wait. On the way out things get no better, its an endless maze of catwalks etc with some nice views of DWs back of house area and plenty of weedy gravel. And finally after passing an ill maintained garden bed you wind up in a bogan shop, specialising in the latest palyboy and bundaberg rum products.

Nah, its the one to the right of the batman entrance on that "wall" (to the left of the fountain of fame when viewed from the entrance), i think its used for something because when i was there a lot of japanese tourists were lined up, isnt it the waiting area for paradise country or something?

LOL, i dont mean to rain on anyones parade here, but this probably the most i have ever seen a post go off topic, it started out as suggestions for improvements to existing rides, but somehow became a debate about woodies.

Cyclone - A warrant for demolition TOT- Decent theming Thunder River - Loads more water fountains, coin op water guns, water wheels, tipping mining buckets, all with a mining theme. SDSC - This ride is pretty much on the spot, but it would be cool if they added a few speakers with voice overs to push the story along (Like the whole ghost train section at the start looks nice, but has no real story) WWF - Replace the spark effect that was removed after the fire, and for the other parts of the ride i think some of the special effects could be a bit more energetic Superman escape - More theming in the queue line to make it feel more like a subway (eg ticket machines, signage, 24 hour clocks, TVs with departure times, snack vending machines), on the ride itself i would improve the theming at the start (in paticular i would get rid of the mural at metropolis square station as it looks crap, instead it should be a 3D set. Lethal Weapon - Rusted car bodies as leg choppers.

Exactly, Its a theme park site, half the fun is speculating and whingeing. Plus, whats this bull about "Australian standards", are you saying we should put up with sub par attractions because of our locations. But anyway, Australian standards are pretty good now (with some of the recent stuff done by WVTP proving this).

I was just wondering if anyone could post any pictures of the food and bev packaging used at Austrailan parks (In paticular WnW)? basically for my visual communication and design folio i have set my two finals to be a plan for a water park, and designs for F&B containers with the park logo etc. As part of that we have to do research relating to what we are doing which is why it would be very useful if people could post up some. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Well they were behind Boomerang Bay and that park has plenty of Proslides. But I know what you mean, so far DWWP does not look paticularly special, though im keeping an open mind.