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Nah, Water Technology is just a water park designer, they dont make actual slides, also I wouldnt assume too much from the support design because its just an industry standard, just take a look at Sidewinders at WnW, they use the same support type. Also, i dont think Dorney had the same theming company that did the claw, that will change things a bit definitley....

Yeah, i wouldnt get to upset, It will not be SP.

Because a Space Shot can do that many launches

Also, check www.proslide.com for ride info. The tornado is about 25m high and roughly the same length along the bottom, 18m wide at one end and 4m at the other, has 3m wide lead up tunnels

Nah, the Rocket only uses conveyor belts.

Thats what I was thinking too, since on some Proslide slides they use poured concrete tubes, but at other times they use timber supports or normal steel tubes so it might not be . There seems to be no real pattern to it. I even with AWL there isnt always consistency, like the supports on Mammoth are a lattice, but on Terror Canyon plain steel poles are used. Though one thing i did notice was the starting tubs that are now on site are dual entry, but AWL normally uses in inline type one. Well just have to wait and see, but to tell you the truth, i dont really care who its from, just as long as they are good. Also, GoBoi, the link you posted is not a Master Blaster.

Plus the fact the ride has already been ordered. But hey dont let the facts get in the way of a good story

Dunno, im just guessing remember, maybe it belongs to another slide.

With water slides, it tends to be that for lower supports they just use concrete (since at that size concrete is cheaper) , but for the higher supports it becomes more economical to use steel (since a concrete support capable of the same load would be more expensive (and large)) My other theory is that maybe the supports are for slides from different manufacturers who have their own ways of doing things. The green poles remind me of the La Trobe St bridge in Melbourne (which has lime green lights and railings), it looks ok as a modern thing, but not so good in a themed area. See the attachment (Its rabids pic BTW) of how i think the supports could work.

Just another point to highlight WVTPs poor advertising; Have a look at their other big investment, Extreme H20 zone. On their website all they have is a short description that poorly describes the slides (you would think they would milk it for all its worth and list it as 4 new rides (black hole, sidewinder, freefall, jet streams) and no images of the slides. Instead on their website they seem more intent on advertising the re-opening of Whirlpool Springs. If this is the sort of regard they pay to their new rides........

But arent you sort of burying your head in the sand by ignoring improvements the park may have made? Its a fair point you made about supermarket, but the thing with that is you visit often, (up to several times a week) so you get a good picture of customer service and you can make a fair judgement. But with a theme park you might only visit yearly or less, so its hard to gain a proper perspective, but notice some of the people here who visit often say that the parks are fairly even, i think it would be worth listening to these people as they would be able to make the fairest judgement. But anyway, on my visit they were all good in terms of service........ I think you might have just had some bad luck, If its really that bad, complain, and if they dont somehow make good at that point then you could say fairly that the service is genuinley bad.

With Superman, I think its weird how people are bagging it now for being intense, painful etc when a few months ago everyone was raving about how much they loved the launch and the airtime and how it was nice and smooth because it was Intamin, and how they would gladly ride it a bazillion times in one day because it was so fun, if Intensity and pain was really an issue would this be the case? IMO the ride itself was fine. And as for the ride time, well Xcellerator goes for about 22 secs, and lets not forget TOT goes for about 28 secs, launched coasters are just an inherently short ride. Yes, i agree that SE could have been done a bit better, it opened late, still has a crap locker system and the theming has been underdone, and they still persist with 1 train when its too busy for it the latter 3 should have been rectified by now, and it is to their detriment that they continue to ignore this. Also, here in the southern states we havent really seen that much in terms of advertising for the ride, and as Richo said, they dont stress the qualities of the ride well enough, i mean at my local corner shop the ice cream case has promotional stuff to do with the Streets promotion for SE. On this material the font style is the same as other SE promotion, and the MW logo as well as an image of the front car is inculded, but there is absolutley no to SE or is features. An unknowing member of the public may have no idea what ride is being depicted. I think in all ads for the ride they need to get some nice shots emphasising the top has as well as the 0 to 100 in 2 secs tagline, these are vital features and are much more interesting than just a shot of a single car. But i think with the upcoming release of Superman Returns we could see some more cross promotion, i think they might just be hanging on to do this, in which case i think it could have been smarter to have opened SE this year in line with the movie, and just let shrek 2 have more time in the limelight. With the general quality of the ride, i think just an extra $250000 would have basically clinched it and enabled them to really do some nice finishing touches, but hey, its their decision As for customer service, all parks were about the same, it was pretty good and I had no real bad moments. But as with any buisness, they are only as good as your last visit, so they need to work to ensure 100% service is delivered all the time. I think the main reason for MWs problems can only be attributed to the park themselves and their actions, not really the whims of the public.

Geeze, thats not too bad actually, there are flats in some cities that cost more than that. It really highlights how much better value water parks represent for park owners, i mean, the Claw cost 24 times that amount, but would come no where near the hourly capacity and general appeal. Hopefully we will get a nice sized pool with big surfable waves.

Personally i like shades of brown, it can be themed better that way (Typhoon Lagoon and Wild Wadi are examples of how this has been done well)

So so far we have lime green, aqua, blue and purple as the colours. Now all we need is hot pink and orange and they will be set....

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You mean that railway line thats like in a viaduct?

Thats kind of dumb, it should be free since many water parks that have them include it in the admission. Though upcharging at DW isnt new, TB opened as an upcharge.

Unfortunatley, the double shot you are thinking of has an even lower max height (about 60m) and even then, the second launch starts about halfway down the tower (not at the bottom as you might have gathered from RCT) But one area this ride will defintiley win out in is Capacity. Currently GD runs only 8 passengers at a time on a fairly long ride cycle, but the space shot ride is pretty fast, with 16 passengers in one go. But often the towers are built in pairs or groups of three, and sometimes even a group of four, so you can multiply that capacity out, so the queues will end up being shorter. Add to that the better theming the ride will inevitably have, and the net result is a better ride.

I think Richo said in another thread that a flowrider costs under $1mil, though im not sure about the wave pool, but I imagine it would probably be the most expensive attraction. But I dont really get the dissapointment people seem to have with Whitewater doing the slides instead of Proslide, they are basically even, its sort of like the comparison between B&M and Intamin, not much at all. Though to compete with WnW they just have to ensure it has good comparable rides, as well as some unique ones. This could be achieved by having prehaps just 3 towers, One could be entirely body slides, with 4 regular ones at middle level, and 4 extreme slides at the top. The other tower could have 4 raft slides off the middle level (like some of the SF Hurricane Habours) , at the top level could be 2 mammoth slides. The 3rd tower could have an octopus racer running off it, and prehaps on another level 2 toilet bowl slides (I think these are pretty likely as we dont have them here yet and would be the sort "unique" ride dW would be after ) But have a look at the photo I have attached below, it shows how a number of ride types can share the same tower, which would be good for DWs space problems. Look carefully and you can see provision has been made for another Mammoth slide on the right hand side of the conveyor belt. Also, another idea that is basically staring them in the face is to pay attention to their kids area, which might only cost a little bit more. Compare what WnW has: http://www.roller-coaster.com.au/gallery/b...bay-wnw/007.jpg Which is nice, but it could be so much more. Imagine if DW tried this.... http://www.themeparkreview.com/dells2005/sfhh/sfhh2.htm

Doubt it as space shor rides cant be built much higher than 70m due to technical limitations.

IMO WWW and PS are pretty even with their basic offerings (Eg body slides, ring slides etc), but PS comes out on top with its innovations (Eg the Tornado), whereas WWW is better for wave pools and kids areas (just look at the quality of the new bucaneer bay to see what i mean) so it wouldnt really matter who is making the basic slides Also, there are 3 manufacturers making uphill slides, Proslide makes the "Rocket", WhiteWaterWest makes the "Zip Coaster" and NBGS makes the "Master Blaster". The former 2 rely on high speed belt systems to move the rafts but NBGS uses water jets, IMO the better way since its more "pure" and has the novelty factor of water going uphill and has more raft arrangements, using belts for the other two is just the easy way out IMO. Also the reason i dislike the bright colours is because they look too generic and unthemed, its better IMO if they use neutral browns like at Typhoon Lagoon to give the park a convincing look.

Cool! One thing they could have done, but its a bit irrelevant and late now would have been to have the slide built over part of the carpark with the open end of the funnel facing the road, it would look even better and motorists and the public would be able to see the rafts going around in the tornado.

Ok, so it looks like White Water West is on board for project by the look of the slides (By chance i found this out because on their website they mention their manufacturing process where both sides of the slide have the same surface (shiny smooth), I should have guessed earlier by the fact there was a flowrider going in and the fact it will have a giant wave pool, both whitewater specialties) The slide colours are good (at least the blue ones, as for the purple ones, blech, reminds me of Six Flags) This is looking good though, i wonder when they will put the big trampoline thing over the flowrider though...

So is it easily visible from the Motorway?