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I can find a shadow for each object (except the bus) - some shadows though I think are hidden by some objects, the framework & the shadow caused by the main Tornado itself. I agree that it doesn't exactly 'prove' it - I just didn't think Jamberoo would go to the effort & cost of producing that image when theming installation would be so close to completion. That image was also only published yesterday I believe too. I think that's part of the point of the analogy - Wet 'n' Wild Sydney has had lots of problems/complaints while Jamberoo rarely does. Traditional theme park rides like rollercoasters & flat rides etc. were the same until the 1950's when elaborate themes started to be added to them. Personally, I like the addition of themes to waterslides. I've always wished they did that too (but without getting rid of Bobsled) particularly if it begun with a ProSlide SkyBOX at the summit.

Thanks @YLFATEEKS but I did say 'Disneyland alone' would require 30 hectares (based off the Anaheim park & excluding DCA). I know they need loads more land if they want to add a shopping district/hotel (11 hectares), another Disney park (approx. 30 hectares again), car parks (depending on demand) & to keep other tourist operators away (I have no clue how much this would be). @AlexB, I know all that (except that Disneyland sizes have varied - I just based the size off the original): I was just pointing out that you just can't buy random pieces of land & assume Disneyland would fit in it just because you bought enough hectares. All the pieces of land would need to form a square large enough to fit a 'Disneyland circle' & any additional park logistics/support in it. Whilst each Disneyland worldwide has subtle differences, the general public would treat them as the same. Whilst all Disneylands have been, according to you, built in 'the middle of nowhere', they are still near (40km or less from) significant urban areas, which allows ease of travel & transportation/accommodation options. I was being literal in saying 'middle of nowhere'. I can imagine Disney building a 'Disneyland Sydney' near Badgery's Creek or a 'Disneyland Melbourne' near Werribee or a 'Disneyland Gold Coast' near Murwillumbah.

Source?

Here you go (I've based it on the former Market Place exit theming but I've got no clue if that former theming will return when construction is complete or if the design I've added is even remotely accurate):

Even though the Gold Coast is Australia's theme park hub, I'd say Sydney currently because it has the most populated significant urban area but given Melbourne is predicted to be more populated than Sydney in the future, Melbourne might be a better long-term goal for Disney. You'd need about 30 hectares of land for Disneyland alone - Songcheng's land in Nerang is bigger than that by about 10 hectares so yes, there is space for it. Disneyland is circular in shape so the shape of the land lot would also need to be taken into account to ensure it fits a perfect circle in. Expansions to include a shopping district/hotel would require about an extra 11 hectares more and then add any extra needed land for car parks. The land I'm sure is there somewhere. Currently, Australia would be lucky to get just Disneyland so to get anything like an adjunct shopping district or hotel in the near future, Disney would probably build Disneyland near a hotel/shopping district or work with 3rd parties (like Scentre Group & Best Western) to build their own hotel/shopping district on nearby land that Disney leases to them and when Disney is ready, end the lease & buy the buildings off the 3rd parties so they could run the shopping district/hotel themselves. If not, we'll just have to wait until Disney finds enough finances or thinks it's a worthy extra investment in Australia to proceed with from scratch. Disney has had something in Australia already - their Disney Store retail chain appeared in 16 locations across Australia between 1992 & 2003. Disneyland would probably help the theme park industry in Australia. The USA survives with Six Flags & Universal etc. after all. Disneyland isn't exactly known for it's thrill rides (MW), waterslides (WNW) or marine creatures (SW) too. DW would only suffer mildly as it was designed with Disneyland in mind & does have some family-friendly rides but it still offers different experiences to Disneyland. Disneyland is a more family-friendly version of DW (minus the water park + wildlife) so it would probably fit right in amongst the Gold Coast theme parks. Outside the Gold Coast, it wouldn't affect any of the smaller theme parks as they are unique in their own way & offer different experiences. Disneyland would just be the stand out attraction. Universal Studios would probably be a very good rival for MW but I can't see them affecting DW at all - DW is too family-friendly compared to Universal Studios. Why would you travel somewhere for a complete replica of something that is in your own country? Disneyland is near identical everywhere it is built around the world. No one from the USA, Europe or Asia would travel to an Australian Disneyland just because it is in Australia. It's like Australians travelling to Asia to visit a near-identical DW. Given Hong Kong is the closest place with a Disneyland to Australia, the only countries whose people would visit an Australian Disneyland are Australia, NZ, PNG, Indonesia & any Pacific Ocean island nations like Fiji, Tonga, Vanuatu etc. No, we wouldn't & Disney would never build in the middle of nowhere. They would build somewhere near a highly populated area with transportation links, ease of travel & lots of nearby accommodation. It lessens costs for them (building in the middle of nowhere might mean building & operating their own airport, rail line or upgrading long stretches of roads as well as building a very large hotel) whilst keeping costs low for the consumer so they can spend big at Disneyland. Imagine them building Disneyland in Kiwirrkurra. Would you pay for a ticket to go to Disneyland there? Along with paying for transport, accommodation as well as trying to figure out how to & how long it will take to get there?

Yes, I'm serious: This is part of a photo from Jamberoo's website: Top circle: The bus & utility pole theming on the grass waiting installation. The Model T Ford ute theming is already installed on The Perfect Storm's main Tornado. Middle circle: The outhouse theming waiting installation. Bottom circle: The cow theming waiting installation.

If you're thinking the bus is photoshopped in, it isn't. The image looks very photoshopped but I've seen more images that proves it is all real theming.

I'd think they would have just immediately stopped production on the previous merchandise & immediately begin producing new merchandise but continue selling the existing merchandise until it's sold out regardless if Thunder River Rapids is on it. Otherwise, they will be losing money from investing in merchandise that will never be purchased. It might take a while for the new merchandise to appear on the shelves too - I got DW souvenirs that feature Thunderbolt on it and I visited the park for the 1st time 9 months after it closed (and 2 months after it got removed).

@GoGoBoy, if that is The Perfect Storm fully completed, they got to make it heaps darker than that! Especially if they want the lighting effects to be seen in their full glory! True but this is what they mean: Stage 2 of 4 - Ride/Attraction 3 of 7. Also: The Perfect Storm, I believe, has been completed (check out that theming!)... ... as Jamberoo launches a new television commercial for the peak summer season: GIF/YouTube video from Jamberoo Action Park's website/YouTube channel.

Stage 2 actually just finished. Stage 1 consisted of both Funnel Web & Banjo's Billabong. So for what I think Stage 3 will consist of - basing it on what Jamberoo has said so far - it will be Koala Creek & Platypus River next year.

Just noticed DW's What's Open webpage isn't on the website anymore.

I was posting in response to people on this forum - not the general public - thinking Dreamworks Experience's rides were going to be operating. I wouldn't have bothered responding to the issue of DW making an ambiguous statement as I already agreed with most people on here that the general public would think DW's statement implied the Dreamworks Experience rides would be operating.

Does anyone actually read what I write or just assume everything is 'over analysis'? Firstly, it wasn't an 'analysis' - it was a point of view I've had for over a decade. Secondly, I did post this: @AlexB, I know theme parks have 'attraction departments' which include rides - I only meant the separation of 'rides' & 'attractions' in reference to marketing like the website & media releases. If you count Whitewater World's slides as rides, then yes it is true.

I think it operated for 3 years between 2010 & 2013.

Just so you know, I've always thought that too. The ride experience is different - it's dark inside & utilises special effects such as lights & sounds. The original plan, in fact, was for it to be a Tantrum Alley-Behemoth Bowl hybrid. The Perfect Storm is actually a Tantrum Alley-Tornado hybrid branded by ProSlide as WorldAlley. The colour scheme is the same because local residents are extremely concerned about the choice of colours affecting the scenery of the local area so Jamberoo has limited colours to work with as Kiama Municipal Council probably has put limitations on what colours they can use. The colour scheme they did end up using also fits in with the 'storm' theme but in hindsight, they should have had Funnel Web's colour scheme as the original colour scheme for the Tantrum Alley-Behemoth Bowl hybrid, which was dark/light brown - this could have represented the burrow of a Funnel Web spider.

I'm talking about all of them. Yes, they do get more than 600 people per day - DW, in fact, does get 6000 people per day on average. The market I was referring to was the Chinese tourist market which each theme park gets less than 600 guests from each day on average. I was referring to the Chinese tourist market as Australian Legends World is targeted to Chinese tourists.

The Perfect Storm cost $5 million. It isn't exactly the same: ...but to answer why did they install another large Tornado, here's the answer:

It isn't exactly a clone of Surf Hill but it would be very similar. Other than the fact that Jamberoo already has Surf Hill, they already got plans for Thunder Downunder. If you wanted something like what Sanad Capital is building, just add some turns at the top of Surf Hill. The turns on a Whizzard is the only thing in Sanad Capital's version that Jamberoo hasn't got or planned. Anyway, back on topic..

Out of all the things I've posted, I'm probably over-analysing this one as two-way ferries is probably what they meant but I still don't see how a two-way Nerang River ferry based out of this park will work and that's why I think what I said below is more likely: Remember, Sydney's ferries are for commuters - this one is for going to a theme park targeted to a very small market. There are already 'similar' tourist attractions to give you an idea of their appeal on the Gold Coast: AOS is 1 $23 million show with 1000 seat capacity - this is multiple shows surrounded by various worlds built as part of an approximately half a billion dollar project targeted to a market that consists of less than 600 people per day per park. I think the idea of a all-day two-way ferry operation for this park is nonsense (so I think Songcheng has misinterpreted a few things) but I also think the idea of a one-way ferry operating at selected times as part of a pre-booked bus tour is more logical for this park. I do agree though that when people are talking about ferries, they are always talking about a two-way ferry. I see what you mean but on that website, once you find the timetables, you know it's definitely two-way. So far, for this park, they've only implied one-way.

I'm probably reading into this too much but the quote said: So far, that only implies one way. The only other reason why I considered it going one way was because constant two-way operation seems completely unfeasible in my opinion. One-way operation at selected times in the afternoon might be more appropriate as some 'unique' exit to the park particularly if the park receives low attendance that only consists of Chinese tourists on pre-booked bus tours. So imagine something like a pre-booked bus tour '...which includes a day visit to Australian Legends World + afternoon ferry cruise along the Nerang River' etc. Pre-booked bus tours have the ability to be organised like this & Chinese tourists probably make a large portion of that market. Some tourist attractions even only open to pre-booked tours - maybe Australian Legends World is going to be one of these?

This Facebook post from Jamberoo confirms The Perfect Storm's main Tornado is finally fully enclosed. Now is the lighting/sound/effects inside it operational and has the external theming around the main Tornado been completed? The external theming is debris on top of the main Tornado itself + a small tubes shelter themed to a rusted corrugated galvanised iron-roofed wooden building (with a concrete chimney). Also, Jamberoo has confirmed it's Summer Fun Pass will go on sale on the 23rd of December this season. The landscaping around Kangaroo Island is looking pretty scenic too.

I was just imagining tour buses dropping them off at the park & meeting them back at the hotel the next day or if there is something on at Metricon Stadium, there at the event's conclusion to take them back to the hotel. The guests would go in the park, enjoy the shows & then hop on the ferry at the end to get back to Surfers Paradise or if there is something on at Metricon Stadium, to get there to enjoy an event.

I meant nothing about dropping off at the park. They would still drop off guests at Metricon Stadium & Surfers Paradise.

Yes, they are attractions - they do 'attract' people but I always thought in the theme park industry that rides & attractions are considered separate with 'attractions' being everything but rides & shops so in that sense, 'attractions' to me in a theme park means shows, exhibits, arcades, walk-throughs, roaming characters etc. One reason is that the animals that DW care for are used to seeing visitors. Another reason might be that operational costs might be too high if they are expect low crowds initially. Best to have the amount of rides/attractions operating match the amount of people visiting the park.

It does have precedent though in Australia at the defunct Leyland Brothers World - the inside of this one is a restaurant and now is a road stop: There was a bus car park in the artist impression but in regards to the ferry, I've only got the impression that it picks up only from the park - nothing about dropping off yet so to me, it currently sounds like an exit. Fox Studios was a bit different - it was a 'backlot' and the owners even insisted it wasn't a theme park (despite the media promoting that it was). While it did have 1 worthy experience (Titanic: The Experience), the whole 'backlot' wasn't a 'day' attraction in itself and with the high ticket prices, wasn't worthy of entry to most of the general public. This new Gold Coast park is targeted to Chinese tourists and whilst it might be more appealing to them than Australian residents, the number of Chinese tourists on the Gold Coast is still too low for this level of investment. Songcheng might be basing it on the level of success they get in China so they need to lower their expectations & also more importantly, their level of investment for this to work in Australia.