MaxxTheMonster

Perhaps frozen coke was a poor example granted. But as far as the Wonka query, this was less than 2 weeks ago.

With all the discussion over BT and LTRR. Has anyone else realised that with the Looney Tunes Show now in main street that the Show Stage is now not getting much use? Do they still use this for anything or is it another feature going to waste?

I personally say scrap the VIP idea all together and go back to the Annual Pass only... I was more than happy to pay in excess of $140 each year over the last 10 years or so before the VIP passes came out and the reason was that the quality was there. I kept buying the Annual Pass even when the VIP passes came out for the same reason and the fact I'm really not interested in WnW and Seaworld. But then as everyone swapped to the cheaper ticketing that kept being released the quality of the overall park experience fell. General atmosphere, ride and shop limited times of operation, outsourcing of stores (Ice Cream, Dominos, Frozen Coke, Willy Wonka has no Wonka products.) and fall of the quality of shows, street entertainment (random scooby chase, bonnie and clyde gone, random characters all throughout the day, looney tunes show now in main street, western "ghost" town) and actual feel of being in a movie based park as opposed to another Dreamworld with the theming spilling out all over itself and other areas. I bought a VIP pass at the start of this financial year and am sad to say that with the current way the parks are going I think it may indeed be the last year I purchase any pass to these parks. With the GP so set into the routine of these being released every year, it will be almost impossible to scrap them as no one will pay almost the same for a single day entry to one park when they are so used to getting unlimited entry for a year to not one, not two, but three parks. I work in Sales and Marketing, Finance and Auditing within the hospitality industry and you don't look at what will get you out of the immediate rut. You don't JUST look at what will get you out, but what things will continue to provide a steady income over the years to keep the company afloat without compromising the service and quality of product you are selling to your target consumer audience. Let us say your current consumer base figure is 1000. Approximately 10% (100) of these will not be pleased regardless of the service. This leaves 900 satisfied consumers that will go away and tell between 1 and 5 friends about the product (Avg of 3 people told per consumer). This gives 2700 possible future consumers. Of the original 1000 consumers, 50% are most likely to return (500). This means from one good day you could have a consumer base percentage increase of 270% We also look after a hotel where we constantly give out complimentary upgrades, free wine, free meals, etc. These things cost us less than $100 if we do all these for a single consumer based on the nightly rate of approx $300. However a loss of $100 means the consumer is 50% likely to return next time they are in town. If apply the same figures as above, but we did this for 100 consumers, we would raise $3000 in revenue, lose $1000 in complimentary items ($2000 up), and 90 of them went away and told the avg 3 people, we would have 320 (270+50) consumers return and with accomodation alone would raise a revenue of $96,000. Isn't that worth the original loss of $1000?? Before anyone replies about the figures I have used, this is all based on actual research the company I work for has been conducting for the last 4 years. I cannot reveal the company, our research methods or clientel base so please do not ask.

My main query though wouldn't be about the creek, but if it is a ride, where will the queue line go? I mean it is outside the main park wall.

I queried this a few months back... There is a link for the thread on parkz somewhere here...

I have always thought that they shot themselves in the foot with the VIP pass. As a one year thing it would have been a great idea, however continuing it now means people expect it to continue. As a quick revenue raiser it is good. But it has meant a decline in quality with a lot of things within the park. They lose money from ticket sales due to this and the sheer number of people attending does put some pass holders off wanting to go back as the wait times are quite ridiculous these days. Wonder if they realised they were losing profits because of these and that is why the whole "no external food into the park" ruling came in. They don't make the money from tickets so they force people to buy food instead. They also add in all these extra upcharges to make more. Becoming more like the Ekka or Easter Show each year.

True djrappa, but, the pipelines are not only in that one spot. If they were recording exactly where they ran to avoid them then they would have paint or string running between a bunch of pegs, not just one single point on each pipeline marked.

Isn't this a thread for the Construction at MW? Trying to decide who is El Loco for changing the topic...

Haha Hibino. I just started watching Batman Returns and read this. That one was so much better. The story made sense and the live action video made it feel real, not the computer generated world they have now.

That was my exact thoughts when I saw the pictures for DW's X Coaster. Have to admit though, the footage I have seen of what MW may be adding (if it is what they were planning elsewhere) will outdo DW. Again, only if it is what they were planning for the other side of the carpark earlier this year. (And no not a Eurofighter)

No I'm not a Greenpeace advocate, or vegan or any of that rubbish, but... this is what is going to happen when you keep wild animals. You can't get complacent with these things. They are wild. They are built to kill for survival. I remember someone once asked during their Q&A time at Tiger Island, "Do you even put any other living animals in with them that they can chase and kill." All the other guests laughed and the handler sort of gave a "you gotta be kidding me with that question" as he acknowledged himself and the other handlers in the enclosure.

Would have to be the Great Gremlin Adventure. Can't count out the Studio Tours, Einstein Gravity Homestead, Western Stunt Show or Police Academy Stunt Show. Back then it was about the movie experience, not the quick thrills and a quick buck...

A friend of mine does part time work with one of the construction people working on this... Not sure if this is what I have heard about as I know the plans were for the other side of the carpark but main roads were kicking up a stink... If it is though and they have moved it to keep the peace, looks like MW and DW are heading in a very similar direction with their additions this year...

If they remove the River Ride the only original attraction remaining would be the "Speedy Gonzales Tijuana Taxis"... Sure keep up with the times, but they have basically rebuilt the whole park and it has become a shell of its former self. Yes technology has advanced and the demand is for rides and the such, but as I have mentioned before, it is a movie based theme park, yes I enjoy "riding the movie" on Scooby Doo, Wild West Falls and Superman. But where is the full movies experience they once had? Walkthrough attractions such as Einstein, Matrix, and Harry Potter. While they might not have been big crowd pullers, they immersed the guest in the movie experience on a different level. The shows in main street have not been updated in at least three years, Batman is still fighting the scarecrow based on the 2005 storyline. What of the 2008 Dark Knight involving one of the best villians in recent Batman history? Keeping shows up to date with the times would cost a lot less than removing and replacing rides and would only require script and costume changes.

Funny you should be complaining of the crowds... I was at MovieWorld on Sunday and had done all rides (except Superman obviously) by 12:00pm. Approximately 10 - 20 bricks from HWSD have been in place the last few weeks that I have been attending. In saying that though I have been at 3 shows where cars have lost power midway through a sequence. I know that it is obviously something that can't be guaranteed not to happen but when it happens 3 out of 6 shows I think they need to look at the maintenance logs.

Two techs in the control booth, at least one with a headset, at least 2 techs behind the scenes, both with headsets, all drivers have headsets built in to their helmets. They can all talk to each other throughout the show... Why would you need a spotter in the audience to tell them what part of the show they are up to? The show is almost identical everytime and if their was an issue with a vehicle the driver can call it on the headset so the others are aware. When I did my training, the first part of both defensive and stunt driver training is to always know where your emergency routes are in the event of an unsuspected situation. I'm sure with the level of the Hell Drivers they would have all bases covered.

Went to MW yesterday and have to admit that it was a nice day out... Lethal Weapon is back in operation again and it was close to one of the smoothest rides on LW in recent memory. Yes all shops are still opening later but that is something that can be easily overlooked with many characters out and about throughout the day for photo opportunities and generally entertaining the crowds. On a slight side note... During the HWSD showings noticed Gavin Coleman and a tech were sitting in the audience next to the control booth making notes throughout the show. Does anyone know if this a frequent occurence? Or could this be a sign that the long awaited Stage 2 is coming into play soon?

Yes it is... That is what you get when ou work the graveyard shift 5 nights a week...

Was just looking over the myfun site and came across the DC Comics information... Two interesting things to notice. Firstly the image they are using on the page has Green Lantern, Wonderwoman, Batman and Superman... Secondly it states "Plus, the Movie World Star Parade will be transformed into a DC Comics themed night parade from 5pm daily, which includes all new DC Comics floats, from 26 June to 31 July only." So the parade will be running for only 6 days. Also on a side note: For June, if you purchase the new $9.95 tall sipper, you will get free refills all day... Wonder if they will make people present a receipt to stop pass holders using it again and again...

Unless anyone is going there or past in the next 2 days and can make a side stop, I'm heading to MW on Thursday so will make a short trip to WnW and have a look.

I used it last week to dump photos from my camera memory card to take more pics... Cheaper than paying for a new memory card.

I agree... The parade with the flyover by Daphne and Batman was by far one of the better parades... I believe Neo also used to use it at the end of the Matrix Street Show. From discussions with Robyn and Diane (old PASS cast members who used to do the Daphne flyover), they said that it was removed as the cast complained that they did not feel safe while clipping in to the harness on the scaffolding above Daily Planet and management refused to put up a more permanent setup and so it was removed entirely.

Before anyone resigns to thinking I have some form of Negativity bias... although I may have left this post too late... I have 4 days off coming up and despite the comments that I have posted in this thread recently, I am once again looking forward to spending my time at WBMW & SW. I will agree that there are a whole bunch of positives within these parks and these not only stem from the great rides and attractions in the parks but also from bringing back memories of the past 10 years. Riding Superman 15+ times in a row, choosing one attraction and spending literally the whole time at the park at that one attraction, going to the Dirty Harry bar for Nachos and a drink. These are all positive experiences that make the day a wonderous occasion no matter how many times you do it. Yes some of the decisions made at the parks in the recent past have probably not been the best in our eyes, but as has been mentioned before, we are using a base line that is perhaps a little unobtainable at this time. We need to keep in mind that Australia is in some ways still recovering from a recession and that the parks are first and foremost a business. We need to realise that the decisions made by one person can have many sides to it and was most likely not a split second choice by them but one that was thought out and discussed by a team and while it may not have been the most desired option, it might have been the right one to make. Overall, yes, I am happy with our parks and will continue to attend them regularly. It is just a shame that some compromises simply must be made.

I agree joz, I seriously doubt they are remaining. With the sidewinders, black hole and Mach slides they don't need them.

See when Guest Services becomes on of the "attractions" you attend everytime you go to a park, I think there has been some level of feedback, but when even the supervisor of a department doesn't know what time his/her department is operating I think the level of which these issues occur is a little higher than these posts would ever reach, so where is the point. Let's face it, it doesn't matter what we tell the park, the head honcho is keeping the revenue looking good while supplying a less that reasonable service to the public, and being a business, the money is what they are worried about.