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Hi all, just after some advice for my upcoming gold coast trip. As I'm only there for 4 days, I'm looking at getting a 3 park 3 day village pass. Dreamworld, to me, seems like a bit of a waste of a day with GD down and my only real interest being ST. ideally I'd obviously stay a bit longer, but work commitments unfortunately hindered my ability to do so. This is My first time on the Gold Coast as an adult, so any tips or advice you guys can give me (where to eat, rides to hit first etc.) will be greatly appreciated. The trip in Question is occuring 30 Jan - 2 Feb.

Could it have anything to do with SE's block zones? Given its a bit older and shorter a ride, there could only be 3 - load/unload (lets call this A), preshow (B) and the high speed section (C). A train would have to enter Block zone A out of block zone C before another train could enter C from B and so forth - hence the waiting period at launch track until the train ahead reaches load/unload. As far as i can tell from POV's, theres no mid course break run, nor is there brakes in the preshow, so i do think that math adds up.

Interesting...The only ride i can realistically see being moved is the drop tower? Very low ridership and just kind of sits there not doing much, could be better suited in the middle of the park if they finally decide to level the old castle instead of keeping it hidden behind scrub. Would also free up leftover turbo mountain space for future development. Seems likely. If you look at aerial photographs, the path up the hill is obviously designed with an extra slide in mind. However, the design of Kraken doesn't leave much room for said slide - hopping off you'd be quite a distance from anything. It would also appear krakens exit pool was only deisgned for the one slide.

All this deliberation and conjecture about where the tops coaster went...only for it to turn up scrapped in someones backyard. But where did it come from? The image above was taken at the (very much defunct) Atlantis marine park circa 1985. Did this coaster go on to be the dragon at Tops? And if not, does anyone know where it did go?

Able to provide any details about this? First I've heard of it and there isn't any media coverage of it.

Going to need cochlear implants after listening to that

You'd just think an amusement ride would designed so that it is capable of carrying a load of average adults. Thats top tier shithousery from a engineering point of view if you cant even create an amusement device capable of cycling adults. Maybe it's going more to shit then the delayed concussions suggest and the park is trying to reduce wear and tear where they can? Does throw up a lot of questions indeed. Sidenote - is the chairlift dead?

This is the same park that left a dead wild mouse in a rock for 15 years, you'd think if they're in there quick it's because they got a buyer. Also if it were demo i'd assume there'd be more bulldozers etc than cranes

Even if its averaged out at 75kg, on a per seat basis for a 'modern' coaster it just seems ridiculous. It makes no sense to have 8 seat cars that can't cater for 8 average people. How are they gonna run Fright Nights? Sorry you healthily weighted average Sized group of friends, please wait while we find 4 kids to join half of you guys? What @Brad2912said about the business ethos thing. Perth is a pretty small town and in the Covid world they need all the local attendance they can get. Word of mouth spreads pretty quick, I've had multiple mates who wanted to go this weekend scrap it in favour of the royal show because they don't want to risk paying for rides they can't, well, ride. You'd hope so. Expect a few refunds, or requests for compensatory food vouchers

It is very random for these restrictions to just be spontaneously imposed, especially when a few of the water rides have been operating for the best part of 40 years. You could be right, either the insurance situation has changed (possibly as a result of perceptions surrounding the fully six incident at WWW) or they're about to get sued and want to cover their asses going forward. I hate to sound cliche but the parks gone downhill since mark left. Minimal reinvestment, nothing to really entice teens or even children to return if they attended recently, poorly implemented park policies. Not good.

An indubitably shit way of going about enforcing weight restrictions. Given Rocky Rapids is no more than a glorified lazy river with a small drop, I have no clue how or why there is a weight limit on it let alone at 90kg (which is only 3kg clear of average male weight). Even more confusing is how a 12 million AUD roller coaster can't 'safely' cycle trains with a combined weight of 600KG (not enough to account for 8 average Australian adults), yet a gyro swing can cycle 100kg per seat. Unless the coaster is already somehow on its last legs (certainly runs like it is) and they're trying to increase its lifespan, i'm at a complete loss with it. Rules out the average Australian male by 12 Kg

I think there's a distinct difference between intense and rough. You pull 4.2g on Superman Escape but don't come off with tier 10 whiplash and cauliflower ear. As for the ride type, I think most eurofighters are quite rough and unpleasant. Mystery Mine at Dollywood recently had a section of track redesigned to try smoothen the ride https://rcdb.com/3609.htm, and i believe they are very similar if not identical trains and restraints.

Yeah mate it's like being a rock in a vacuum cleaner. A lot closer to unpleasant than it is enjoyable. It wasn't super smooth when it first opened and has got much worse as times gone on.

I doubt it.The Abyss has become an incredibly rough not so enjoyable ride. Line's never longer than 20 minutes, even in Summer. Lap bars may help with the headbanging, but its' realistically still going to ride like shit, i don't think the trains are designed for lap bars (nor would it be fun going through that 4.5 g dive loop wouldn't be fun with your legs tied down) and it doesn't make sense to reinvest in a coaster with such low ridership.

Adventure world called, they want you to stop talking shit about their vertebrate-annihilating eurofighter.

Who would've thought the 25 year old concussion-inducing arrow looper would outlive the (sounds a bit odd but is true) last coaster dreamworld actually added. Look i'm no expert but parks typically don't remove an attraction due to it's proximity to a new development, seems a bit odd. If that were the case, you'd think they'd just move it somewhere else in the park. Wouldn't surprise me if they were looking to get rid of it in the next 5ish years only for a buyer to pop up now, in which case it would make sense to uproot it and move it on, especially given its removal will then be overshadowed by the positivity of ST opening.

One brake run doesn't necessarily mean one block zone. Some modern coasters are able to use the lift hill as a block zone (the lift chain adjusts it's speed depending on whether or not the block zone ahead is occupied, so that it does not send a car into that zone when occupied). They can also stack multiple trains on the final brake run, that being a block zone in itself, along with the load/unload (some rides have seperate 'load' and 'unload' platforms which are their own individual blocks) station being a block. The problem with raptors vs el locos is that whilst the trains are similar capacity, by nature of raptor trains being a lot longer, the ability to stack and effectively run multiple block zones in close proximity is inhibited, baring in mind no two trains can occupy the singular block zone at a given time.

If people are dying on free floating rides and not(?) tracked ones, however irregular those deaths may be happening, it's probably not a bad move imo

Any logical person/organisation who is trying to market/advertise their new product/experience to the broadest/largest possible audience?

*opinion* The reality is mainstream media outlets such as channel 7 are always going to try create a storyline/angle that generates clicks and views. Thats the nature of their industry, and I fully understand why they need to do that to succeed. But surely, at a point, you've got to take a step back and ask yourself ''What the fuck are we actually doing?'' To market a product (the doco) as 'must watch' for families and an 'insight' into a relatively unseen industry and spit out that heinously bias tripe is just absolutely terrible. Unfortunately, and as we all know, freak accidents do happen at theme parks. They are incredibly sad, and i can't even begin to imagine how those affected feel and what they've been through. Incidents such as that of TRR and the Ghost train fire fall under this cloud, and i do believe it is important that we recognise the impact they've had both on the industry itself and the Australian people. In saying that though, blatant fear mongering and what in my opinion is abuse of the nature of these incidences for views is bang out of order. And just in case it wasn't obvious, i'd like to state that i'm in no way trying to detract or minimise the extent to which both accidents are utterly tragic and sorrowful in nature. For the most part, i thought the Action Park segment was fine. Realistically, that park was grossly mismanaged (even if the central theme of the park was seemingly unmitigated danger), and the crazy shit, for lack of better term, that happened there, was extremely influential on the industry as it quite literally set a benchmark for what safety standards are needed and what not to do. The TRRR segment was incredibly disappointing though imo. At a point, that is quite literally 5 years later, bringing up such a tragic event in a very biased and opinionative (rather than factual) manner doesn't seem to do anyone involved any sort of good. I did find it quite compelling to see who I Believe was a family member (mother?) of a few of the victims speak in the doco. The incident has left an unfathomable hole in her life that i couldn't relate to in the most primitive sense. If having her voice heard is something that aids in the healing process, if there could ever be one, i commend channel 7 for providing her with such a platform. It just seems a shame to me, by no fault of her own, that her genuine grief is seemingly exploited to construe that whole 'theme park is bad and super dangerous and they don't care' narrative rather than actually pay homage to such a terrible accident-4 people tragically losing their lives-and recognising the affect such incidences do have on people. If you're going to recount these things at a very public level, which i believe as a society is important, overdramatising and manipulating the nature of events to drive an exterior (and commercially motivated) narrative rather than memorialising those involved is just utterly immoral and putrid. The Fully 6 incident segment seemed a bit dodgy. It reeks of people attempting to milk a situation for a big payout. I'm no expert, but what I am is a 6'5 bloke who's ridden 'speed slides' similar to those involved. Seems hard to believe that someone of my stature can ride these slides, baring in mind i follow the *ride instructions*, and come off completely unscathed, yet someone half my size, who'd presumably travel with a lot less force and speed, comes out second best pool of water and walks away with horrific injuries. In saying that, if all was legit and she's genuinely done nothing wrong and had this accident, thats not good and a level of accountability has to fall on-get this-the manufacturer of the ride who designs how it runs and stipulates it's operating conditions. A little side note too, having kids chuck up gang signs on national telly never does your credibility a world of good. All in all, considering the doco promoted itself as an unprecedented look into an otherwise unseen industry, i was quite disappointed but not surprised to see it manifest into the shanty fear mongering campaign and misrepresentation of an already struggling industry in Australia that it was. Do a bit of proper journalism. Provide an objective and respectful representation of a topic. And-most importantly-just be better. 0/5 for immoral and improper journalism.

Take a sip every time an argument breaks out in a Parkz Forum🍺🥴 Why can't we all just get along 😢 (said with obvious and overt sarcasm)

Might've actually shit myself watching this, that thing looks insane! Also big ups on that new role you're taking up mate, great to see people living out their dreams 🙌

Could just be really uneducated, but was there actually any legitimate reason for the log ride to close? Surely a log flume wouldn't cost all that much to maintain and operate? If it's to move past the Parks Gold rush era, i get that, but still, just seems very sad and wasteful.

Would be good if they tried to sell some of the old signage/boats and stuff like that. I'm sure there are many folks out there who wouldn't mind that sort of an addition to a man cave etc. Would make them seem a little bit desperate if they started selling chunks of conveyor belt though...

I understand wikipedia isn't exactly a 'reliable source' but there are indeed seperate listings for TOT and the tower itself (Dreamworld Tower), and mentions of their independent nature to one another. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Terror_II "The ride was situated on the Dreamworld Tower, which also houses The Giant Drop free fall ride" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamworld_Tower "The Dreamworld Tower supports both the Tower of Terror II and the Giant Drop." Hopefully that helps clear something up..