DaptoFunlandGuy

I'd suggest its probably more to do with the virtual queue functions - they don't want people reserving places when they aren't even going to be there. #BOKArena. It's probably easier to lock out all 'in park' functionality if you aren't there, to ensure a stable platform for those guests actually in the park.

Well, he's not wrong... ...but at the same time I have to agree with you.

....and if they are only virtual queueing on the app, how will that work for the luddites that don't have, or refuse to use a smartphone?

Is the allegation about their statement correct? Yes. The coroner's findings are quite firm on this point. Can the shareholders prove that the specific statements about safety were key and critical to their decision to invest, over perhaps say - earnings growth and potential, projected expansions and revenue, and other such details? An astute investor is going to consider past performance, track record of those at the helm, what the financials are saying, what the direction of the company is, and what they're selling for the future. How many people invest in BHP because they say that their iron ore machinery is maintained to the highest Australian standards? And how many of those people could prove that they had considered, and relied upon as a key factor in their decision, the maintenance record of the iron ore machinery to invest? Due diligence would rarely extend to a forensic analysis of an organisations maintenance records. I'm not sure what they intend to achieve. If they secure judgment, they could potentially render the company insolvent. The devaluation of the stock means the company isn't worth what they would get as judgment, and would be liquidated or sold off to the highest bidder for cents in the dollar. Employees and super entitlements are priority creditors in liquidation, and that all gets paid out prior to any dividend paid to other creditors. litigation payouts rank only just higher than shareholders, but I doubt they'd get much more than their current stock value. In all honesty, they picked a bad investment and want someone to pay them back what they lost. That's not how shares and stock trading works.

Although that may be the case, if they really cared, they could work with the manufacturer on doing an additional maintenance period for one year in order to realign themselves onto a different cycle.

Look, I've been a leader on this particular issue, as the mod team well knows. I assure you, it was more than 'a facebook comment I disagreed with'. However - Bikash's involvement on these forums, as well as his recent admission that he got a few things wrong in the early stages of the pandemic, in many respects, has redeemed his prior actions. I don't agree with the sometimes brutish nature of his defence of his position and reputation, but his intent is generally in the right place, and i'll say no more on the subject - simple point being, he is not the reason, nor even the main reason for some of the criticism I have for Village. I don't think its fair of you to discard any criticism of Village as being all because of Bikash. It isn't. I'm sure you and others (Like Joz) can agree Village is far from perfection. I have to tell you, my 'hating' on village isn't because of Bikash, and it never was. As for Green Lantern, while this isn't my position on the issue, what i've heard is that Village pressured S&S to develop the 4-across el loco, S&S expressed concern it couldn't be done, and Village's response was 'make it work'. From what I had heard, S&S had expressed concern about the engineering of the bogies and Village was accepting of the risk. They knew about it at the very least, if this is the case. Now, the engineering responsibility still lies with S&S, which is why I said it isn't my position on the issue, but if the above is true (and thats a huge if that few if not nobody here would be able to confirm or deny), then Village knew about the risk, could potentially have had more frequent NDT or monitoring on the parts at risk. At the end of the day, they're just lucky that nobody was killed. The 'manufacturer fault' story sounds like it would wash, but likewise, the blame would shatter the public's confidence in the brand - even if they could say it wasn't engineered correctly and they've fixed it now - how many people would trust the new engineering? And wouldn't that then cast doubt on the manufacturer for future products? Isn't that why we don't see either park dealing with S&S on future attractions? Deaths on GL could still have seen it removed - regardless of who was at fault. A derailed train is one thing - like the one that jumped the tracks at Cleveland a while back. Nobody remembers that. But a derailed train that killed people - AKA Granville - that people remember. Things I dislike about village that have nothing to do with the current COO: Sea World train gate detour Failure to maintain, upkeep or upgrade transport attractions like the train, skyway and monorail 365 days of christmas lights down movie world main street - covered in cobwebs shuttering of stars cafe leaving a huge derelict facility right by the park entrance removal of marvin rocket, and leaving the entire ride theming in place the rotting of the thatched huts (now hut) in WB Kids Skill games taking up prime dining real estate in the SW plaza The 8 year ignorance of WNW while shuttering attractions (Mach 5) The haphazard operations schedule for Surfrider The abandoned zip line the sorry state of whirlpool springs (until the shutdown, when it was resurfaced) The closure of Chinatown Alley as a major thoroughfare for people to get between the front and back of the park without navigating the chokehold of mainstreet moving Carnivale to Sea World The loss of major family friendly attractions like Bermuda and LTRR, and shows like PASS, replaced with poor substitutes that don't appeal to the same broad market. On the subject of shows, the corny, unappealing show replacements for Seal and Dolphin versus the predecessors that were the pinnacle of the park the loss of show stage in MW to be replaced with showcase, leaving no seated, covered venue for character performances The pathetically slow operations, staff who really don't care or strive to achieve maximum capacity and efficiency (and the minimal rostering that forces less staff to operate rides previously operated by a larger, far more efficient crew) Running bare minimum cars on track to minimise wear and tear, resulting in large queue lines Then upcharging skip the line passes (and anything else you can come up with) to milk more cash from your guests. I know some of these aren't unique to Village - and i'm by no means defending Dreamworld for their current state either - but these are just some of the complaints i've come up with off the top of my head based on prior experiences at the parks, little to none of which are directly a result of the COO. The overpriced food, that doesn't even include a drink, and is of poor quality The constant over-promise and under-deliver mentality

I don’t think so. Looks like an A and a T, and the only way they go is left to right ATlantis

In fairness to us as consumers, I think we need the recommendation to avoid the product mentioned. Buyer Beware!

Yeah look - not opening when your competition does will really hurt in the short term as people will be able to rely and plan on the fact that the VRTP are open. However, as we've seen from Richard's stats mentioned in articles and posts recently, Dreamworld wasn't doing too well out of peak. It may be a good excuse to keep the park closed during a loss-making season while still supported by Job Keeper, and to reopen in time for the school holiday peaks? Sure, they're behind the VRTP 8 ball, but if they're open in time prior to summer holidays, it shouldn't be a major impact. Although we know many holidaymakers plan their holidays 12 months in advance, those with earlier plans may have cancelled already. Those booked for Xmas this year probably won't have cancelled and those plans would not have been impacted by park closure. Most of their guests during off peak times are pass holders, who have been guaranteed an extension to their expiry by both chains. If DW stays closed a month longer, then the passes will also extend by a month, but in turn, it lets all those who hold passes to both parks off the hook about 'which park do we do first' - let village open, and the wave subside, and then open later, with all those who've already visited and tried VRTP given the opportunity to visit DW, without competing with village for attendance as much as their opening weekend. I don't think it's smart, but there could be some logic to it...

But in both of those examples, nobody DIED. and despite what you might think about death vs dismemberment, most people tend to not like dying.

This fucking virus had me reading that as CORONA, and thinking you spelled it wrong. The bulldozer.

Then why have a public accessible link? Why not just create a staff portal? (oh right - they couldn’t even update their websites to mobile compatible for ten years) all good. Hope they don’t wake Richo for another cease and desist!

how many were homemade copies, not made by or built in china, and had a litany of undocumented and un-assessed modifications?

^not a bad idea at all. I reckon when they eventually come to redesign the front end, the lake could finally be resumed, with an elaborate rapids filling out the Atlantis area nicely, utilising much of the lake while still opening some parts up to other development - such as retail, event space or parade route should they desire. That front section is one of the worst pinch points in the entire park - and potentially, if they resumed the lake they could run a path down the Sea World Drive side to connect the park together and make it more of a loop than a one-way street...

regardless of media, the public memory will still remember the incident. Dreamworld's plans to erect some sort of plaque will also ensure that. No matter how much positive spin you put on something, people will still remember it - the once bitten, twice shy mentality. We know modern rapids rides are far safer, but we can never say 'perfectly safe'

I would, my issue would be the countless others who wouldn't. I'd probably avoid the parks for the foreseeable future simply because i'd likely get tossed from the park for losing my shit at some grubby grot who can't keep their shit to themselves. We're all prone to forget things from time to time. I was visiting my mother a few weeks ago and she introduced me to her agent. My upbringing taught me that when two men meet, they shake hands, and since my mother was the main contributor to that upbringing, i defaulted to 'how i was raised' mode and offered a handshake. He looked oddly at me, but shook my hand anyway. My mother immediately noted my politeness and then chided me for doing so in this environment and I promptly went off and grabbed some sanitiser for myself and the agent. We're all going to forget ourselves from time to time. old habits die hard. the important thing is how we and others react when it happens. the other party can politely remind of the need to avoid contact (the preferred method), or they can disrespect the boundaries (majority of the great unwashed). Its this second group that I lose my shit at... yet i'd be seen as the bad guy.

I'm with DjKostya

Not always. On occasion, no dates has meant parts on order without ETA. Perhaps the projector is broken? They do need to do something with that castle though.

so was big red car...

You think a coaster, that was built over a carpark, the linemarkings of which you can still see today, which only later had other rides and slides spring up around it, is less of a carpark coaster than a coaster that was built over grass?

Agree - employees are contractually obligated not to disclose certain behind the scenes goings on, but I know Mr Luke Carroll doesn't work for the park, so how he got it, we don't know, but its out.

Until we hear it spoken through the world's tiniest microphone, it's unconfirmed.

Schlitterbahn might have one we could buy...

Loss? Someone thinks a bit too highly of themselves...

Have a great weekend!