DaptoFunlandGuy

Fountain.

The lack of an existing building to construct inside of, or plans to construct same, as well as the short distance between station and lift hill, and the POV imagery already shown in promotional videos suggests - Zero.

Sleep is for pussies.

Right - so you get 'serious money' investors to sign up to 49%, and give the parkz community 51%... Which you would need to either create a management company to hold, or you'd need to allocate a percentage share to each Parkz member. Now - first problem - have you read some of the discussions on these boards? How in the hell are you going to get everyone (being the 51% needed to carry a vote) to agree on something? All you'd need is 2% of those with voting rights to side with the serious money investors and the Parkz community would lose majority. Or, if you have a management company holding the 51% of the vote, you still need the decisions to come from a group of people - and either way, not everyone will agree. the motion on the floor is whether we construct a dark monorail walkthrough... do I hear a second? Motion fails. Crowd funding is possible, but difficult. Can you imagine crowd-managing? No. It's a nice thought. Its a nice dream. Its a horrible reality. so... just stop.

Thanks for the report! That park looks fantastic, and given many of their rides have a clone or at least a counterpart over here, its somewhat saddening to see a small provincial park doing so much better at theming than what we have here. I love the four different ride options on GD (works both ways!), and that el loco looks really nice. Even the battle boats are a step up. Look forward to your next contribution - i'm sure @Gazza would encourage you to slip some of those photos into the Parkz database too.

Bahahaha! Word for word, @Gazza - these guys have used your post above here (#AtomicTrumpBump)

Try this forum thread from 2005. A suggestion in there said it might have been done by Kevin Ferrari based on overseas designs. A later post by @Gazza does seem to indicate it has some similarities with the 'jet' coasters. Gazza linked to a facebook group, which doesn't appear to exist anymore, but I did a little google to find https://www.facebook.com/pages/Leisureland-Fair/138550036173654 ...and this picture from 'Lost Melbourne' shows the park layout in a melways (or similar) of all things!

I'm not really a fan of anything in Victoria, (don't hate it, just don't know it, and don't really care to) - but this article popped up for me today, which i'm sure people will enjoy: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/outer-east/melbournes-forgotten-theme-parks-what-happened-to-them/news-story/f522f6bf1558323a0e438b6f5391f7d2#itm=newscomau|home|nca-homepage-news-plus-story|2|heading|homepage|homepage&itmt=1497419465900

It has been talked about before, but i'm pretty sure there was a bunny hill or something up top where the mountain has holes cut in it, and it was reprofiled. My memory on it is pretty vague, but i'm pretty sure @Richard had the info.

Could just be very elaborate theming? Did you convert to AUD and add the Australia tax?

I have noticed some new ride restraints are a lot less accommodating than they used to be - Doomsday is a perfect example.

Yes but if the park has an agreement with CCA, they can't just choose to sell a different brand of water. It will form part of the agreement. And Coke can charge whatever they want provided it fits within the agreement. 15 years ago, a 600ml bottle of coke cost 90 cents wholesale (Wonderland). 10 years ago, my office bought direct from CCA for $1.90. Mount Franklin was about the same - so selling for $1.50-$2 a bottle isn't viable. And why should the park choose to have a lower margin (assuming they're both still priced roughly the same) on water? If the markup percentage is the same across the board - why should they charge less for water if their cost is the same? As for paying for something you can get for free, many bottled water drinkers choose bottled because they don't like tap water - for taste, or arguments against fluoridation, or many other reasons.

CEOs are ultimately responsible for what happens in their company, and many, whilst having absolutely no link to the incident, fall on their sword. That's part and parcel of success and failure in the corporate world. She's being very nicely remunerated for it, and she will not struggle to find another position with her prior successes behind her. Do I feel sorry for her? absolutely not. Comes with the territory.

Of course you do. It's a Dark Walkthrough!

@jake_hunt - i think the theory here is that they've taken a carriage, seating four, and reversed it, seating two - so the argument is that per cycle, four front facing seats are missing, and in exchange, only two rear facing seats are available, but with a separate queue. Now the flip side argument to that is - how do you know that they didn't ADD a carriage to do the reverse, instead of dropping the four front facing seats - and its a fair counter argument until you look at the station designs that have been posted, showing air gates that accommodate 24 (which makes backwards facing seem a bit like an afterthought-concept to make this coaster even more unique than it already is!) So I think the majority of butthurt is instead of a 24 capacity, its 22, so 2pp cycle, or 40 or so per hour (cbf doing the math but its not a big number either way), and then because rear facing is a separate queue, the general (front face) queue loses another 2 to a separate queue... but its all relative... because otherwise those rear facing people would be in the front facing queue anyway. the four queue lanes look like we'll see a dedicated single rider line (unless they do a 'front row' \ pole position queue separately) - so that should speed things up a bit - nothing like waiting for a single rider to make their way up 3 ramps whilst the train is waiting in the station (such as superman)! I think its good to see the park investing in single rider options - first doomsday, now DCR.

2017 still has more than 6 months to provide you with new things to bitch about... might want to hold off on / that rant for a little while... lol.

Have you been introduced to Village E-Serve?

+1 to the food playing an important aspect of park judgment. good food keeps you happy. bad food literally leaves a bad taste in your mouth about your day. I like that the parks have taken steps towards improving their offerings across the board. Why should a wrap cost as much as a burger? Here's the thing: pre-making prior to opening means you have to GUESS how many people want to be healthy. Make too many, and you'll have to throw them out at the end of the day, or severely discount them to entice people to buy. These losses have to be factored into the pricing - so you charge more. Secondly, those healthy conscious people? They're also the ones who would typically ask for something to be 'freshly made' despite something having been made only 20 minutes prior... Or they'll claim an allergy or intolerance specifically to get something made fresh (there are legit allergies, i'm not saying people are full of it, but i've seen many people order something due to allergy, and then later eat the very thing they claimed to be allergic to). So with this in mind - you've either got to maintain a station \ ability to make fresh on request, or you're going to disappoint those who would buy fresh - either way not selling your pre-made stuff. Burgers are cook to order. There's a high enough demand that you can batch cook stuff, knowing that they'll sell. When demand starts to die down, you slow down your production line - less waste means lower costs. As far as mass producing wraps, there isn't MUCH more effort in production, but healthier ingredients tend to cost more too. Mass producing burgers is a quick process perfected by fast food organisations for decades. Back before McDonald's did "made for you" they'd produce each burger on a tray of 16. One didn't have to be precise with each ingredient - so long as it fell somewhere on the tray, it made it on there, so things like applying lettuce is a much faster process than trying to fill 'between the lines' so that a wrap can be... wrapped... From memory - the 'automated' touch screen stations at Sea World did offer water, but not sure whether you could get plain soda water. Some of the older style post mix stations do have a 'water' lever, and some of them even have a 'soda' lever. Not sure if they are on any of the other ones in-park though.

I think the carpark was a necessary pre-condition to hotel construction. I think given the stall on that particular issue, we won't see updates on the hotel until they work their way around the parking issues.

I'd have liked to have seen it done differently, but after discussing the issue exhaustively off-board, I can completely understand why it is the way that it is. There are other benefits to this too that haven't been considered. I'm of mixed feelings about it, and I look forward to pages of debate in a few months.

I would assume any regular safety system would have monitoring on the seat belts and if it had come undone part way through, the ride would have had a safety stop. I realise the ride is as harmless as they come, but if your child had come out of the car, and been hit by a following car, the car would have won. Its disappointing that the operator responded in that way, but what's worse is that the ride didn't have a safety system to immediately detect the problem. They made it official, you say? The mine ride is definitely returning you say? We will "be looking at bringing back old favourites......later this year" That to me does not say "We're definitely bringing it back by the end of the year" it says to me that "we're going to look and see what is viable" and "we're going to do that later this year" It's hardly what I'd call "making it official that it's returning"

#DatGreenTho

The Joker is about to deliver some shock therapy to his victims. Instructing them how to be seated in the torture chair is just efficient, right? @Slick - mate, you say you don't care what people think, but you are getting worked up and the emotion is showing in your responses. I don't think the storyline needs to be as over-analysed as it is. The accent for me was the only distracting thing, and for me - she pulled the accent off about half the time - so a couple extra takes, to get the right accent wouldn't have cost much more (except time). Its a great video, and what I said at the start was that I thought it was great that the park had invested in a ride that (lets be honest) is decades old, to bring it up to the quality and standard of Superman's pre-show. I think we can all agree it could have been executed better, without a massive increase in budget - however - attach a rider to that one - the park obviously approved what was produced, so they like it, and chances are - 99% of the people who view this video in situ won't give a rat's arse. Hopefully they pay enough attention to it that it speeds up operation of the attraction, and therefore reduces wait time - and we can all just be happy that they've bothered to spend money on improvements, instead of running generic music videos inside a themed environment.

The parks offer healthy options, but they are typically more expensive than 'convenience' options - out of necessity. It takes more effort to produce wraps and rolls than it does to churn out a tray of burgers. As for drinks, post mix soft drink is by far the cheapest option. Bottled water tends to be at the other extreme. Many people visiting the parks are doing so on a budget. Locals with passes visit regularly and can't afford an $8 bottle of water every visit, and tourists have just paid for travel, accommodation, tickets, and all the other bits that go with a holiday, that food and drink choices will oftentimes be made based on price. The refillable drinks offer the best value - especially to a large family. One bottle can be refilled whenever it is empty, so there are no fights over 'big brother drinking the last of the drink' - no problem - just go and fill it up again. The park makes money out of the deal - post mix is quite a lot cheaper than bottled drinks - and nobody has a gun to their head - as you point out - free water fountains are available. So people are making that choice. Unfortunately @pushbutton - this is precisely the same discussion as walkthroughs and dark rides - soft drink, like roller coasters are in demand, so it makes sense to build more of them. Likewise coasters are more in demand than walkthroughs. Darkrides can be much more expensive - and likewise, the park opts for the cheaper option that satisfies the majority.

Hey Jake - wasn't specifically referring to your post, but the two after it simply referencing a product, and it's cost, without labour. Oh i'm sorry - I didn't realise you were a moderator. You did notice TWO of them continued the discussion here, right? Lights can also come under construction - since lights are part of the construction... Do you need a hand out of the backseat?