DaptoFunlandGuy

Wednesday is a good day for OP - try to get there early... the busloads don't normally arrive until closer to 4pm.

Tower of Terror's original quoted cost: $16 Million Not outside their standards, but definitely at the high end. given their recent cash splash, one could read two things - they have no money for anything else because they've spent it all on the little things, or;they're aiming for a long term improvement, and accept that it's not good enough to install big rides - but also to maintain the rest of the park, and in that case they're going to do both.I'm hoping for option 2.

I really hope they're going to work some magic to make the new roof at least resemble the old roof - bullnose edging rather than flat...

I guess I was moreso referring to the 'ride rotation' that is common amongst Six Flags chain parks for instance - it may not be a 'new' coaster, but it is 'new' to the park. Asides of which - dropping $25 million on a coaster (Gatekeeper) after $21m on Maverick - and with Valravn coming only 3 years later (cost as yet unknown) suggests at least $60m over 10 years. You make a good point, I guess we're just used to the 'annual' announcement of Six Flags - but of course noting that they don't always go into the same park.

Yeah ok we got that... and i'm sure the parks do to - hence why we've had: Dreamworks ExperienceWiggles World > ABC KidsJunior Driving SchoolWnW Jr.SW's Nickelodeon expansionKids are covered... let's move onto the thrills....

:sigh: We have covered this. Roller coasters are what brings people to the park in general. By my count, Dreamworld has 5 coasters - BS, Cyc, ToT, EFM and MDMC. Out of those, I think we're all fairly universal in our opinion of MDMC. EFM suits the younger market for a kiddie coaster, BS is a one-trick pony and ToT, whilst classed as a coaster, really is a one trick pony as well. Cyclone really is the only true full circuit coaster they have. Movie World has RRRC, GL, SE and AA... and in comparison - RRRC is not as good as EFM, but SE vs. ToT, In my opinion SE wins out - theme, experience, full circuit. GL beats MDMC hands down and AA vs. Cyc will all come down to personal opinion - but given the recent comments on the favourite coaster thread, I'd be inclined to say AA wins... so the only spot where Dreamworld is taking the cake is with their Kiddie Coaster. Since MDMC in 2007, DW has added only Buzzsaw as a coaster, and that was in 2010. It's a long draw - but considering american parks see coasters every year, or at least every other year, DW should see a coaster at least every 5 years. Shockwave isn't going to draw a crowd. TailSpin won't either. I've just asked my colleagues what they think the last ride installed at dreamworld was, and they were all unanimous - BuzzSaw. This is an issue for the park - firstly - that nobody knows what they've installed in the last five years, and secondly - further proof that coasters are what people pay attention to. As for walk through attractions - theres a reason why a bounce house and a maze are some of the first rides you can build in RCT. They're crap, they're low capacity, and they don't belong in a park that aspires to be a 'world class park'. Heck - even Jamberoo removed their maze. We all know you like immersive dark rides and exuberantly themed attractions - but walk throughs are not going to draw a crowd. I do agree Dark Rides are great - but how much fanfare did JL3D get? virtually none. Many people don't even realise it is there, as all the signage facing main street is for GL and Batwing. DW also don't really have space for a 'dark ride' showbuilding in their current footprint - if the studios are resumed, they could put something there, but it's in the wrong area of the park to do something easy - goldrush style attractions aren't simple, and although WWF is going strong, it's getting on in years. Overseas the technology we're seeing is with space aliens, transformers and the like. No - dreamworld needs a full circuit coaster - by all means with a great theme - take Superman Escape as an example of how this can be done well. It may be worthwhile them considering something on the old thunderbolt land behind WWW - but thats only if it doesn't upset the tigers.

i'd like to think they'd do something with a V8 supercars racing theme...

Shitty concept art done in a 3D design program as filler on a website is not indicative of real world construction. The imagery being used (over and over again) is the same imagery from when Ammar was just a guy with an idea. Sure they could update it, but how about we wait and see if they secure some land (the next step). Once land is secured, they'll have an idea of what size the park can be, and then they'll start with some more concept art designed to fit the actual land they get. And yes - since the original announcement, we've seen WnWS, and the announcement for the zoo. This means western sydney is forming a cluster of parks - just like the GC has. Although it will mean competition - it will also make the area a destination, meaning more people are likely to visit the area, because there is more than one thing to do, and this means they're likely to stay longer, and do them all. This is not something that's going to happen tomorrow. I have it on good authority the funding announcement is legit, and the money is there. Land purchase won't be hard - what will be is getting the necessary government approvals for the usage of the land. After that it won't take much to break ground. Time will tell.

Meh. Yes it looks like what universal has done, but as pointed out, both have logos of a globe, with their name wrapped around it. wouldn't be the first time one park franchise has copied an idea from another. won't be the last. At least dreamworld is trying to improve themselves.

It would be wonderful if we could search for existing threads for these things rather than create a new one every time. Although being from February I must admit It took me all of 8 seconds to search for "Sydney's Wonderland" - I don't know how I find the time... I realise the site doesn't do much for their image, but I have a feeling that for the very reasons cited above - that Ammar Khan isn't letting go of the idea, he'll eventually find his way towards backers or otherwise who pick it up and run with it. It's the Pantene effect.

I'm just trying to understand how his response possibly relates to anything I said.

i know it technically is, but i'm not a fan of classifying Soarin' as 'just a simulator'. It's not a simulator in the traditional sense of the word - it's more like a 4D cinema...

HM opened in Disneyland in 1969, and WDW's version not until 1971... Would have thought they'd have corrected the 'women leading the men' effect by that time - but perhaps it was already developed and they didn't bother? Sounds like you had an awesome time.

...looks like the start of some theming there off to the side...

Paraphrasing because i can't be bothered reopening it to copy paste: "the engineer should never have overridden the safety lock with people on the track"... Operator should be cleared of any wrongdoing and all fault should lie with the engineer. Guarantee engineer overrode locks and then told operator it was good to go.

the original info was cited as sourced from MW's facebook page - so clearly no assumption was there. Brad only served to further reinforce the statement by pointing out the obvious factors that contribute to his conclusions.

*looks at Joz*

I guess it's worth pointing out that your favourite ride is actually part of your Parkz profile too...

I don't think that's anywhere near close to being a christmas open - as said - all the rides are installed, presumably they've been tested - all we're talking about now is paths and landscaping, maybe a bit of signage... You'd be surprised how fast the landscapers can work to get gardens and such installed, and as far as paths go - Disneyland laid the bitumen on Main St less than 24 hours before the park opened. Sure - ladies sunk their high heels into it, but the point is - laying a bitumen path doesn't take long either. Since that photo was taken, they've had another 10 days to work on it - and they've got another 9 before it's supposed to open. so they've had 3 weeks between when that photo was taken, and when it's supposed to open. Piss easy.

For me - Space Mountain. I'm kinda inclined to lean towards the HKDL version a bit more than the LA version. *Cue weird looks from the rest of the membership...* I know we've discussed this before, and I like AA a lot more than I liked LW... but the concept it would be a favourite is just hard to get my head around. I'm curious... what makes a REAL coaster, as opposed to all these fakes we have?

Lol. Nice one. RCDB hasn't got a name as yet, but i'd say they'll probably go pretty reliably towards one of the clone names - boomerang, zoomerang etc. If they are going to stick with a name it has held previously and follow your lead, instead of Dem, they should go with an abbreviation of it's original name - Titan.

I'd say the entire intencity building is roughly the same size as the Scooby queuehouse... but they don't usually use all of the scooby queuehouse for a maze - usually they use only half of it, and utilise various entrance \ exits for both attractions separately. Likewise, intencity (when used) is usually only half used, with the other half remaining business as usual.

Yeah I'd like to formally agree with Zanstabar here. There are a lot of 'pie in the sky' ideas thrown around with no thoughts given as to reality, feasibility and affordability... and not just with regard to FNs. It's fine to speculate... BUT SAY IT IS SPECULATION it's fine to dream or wish... BUT SAY SO If you think something is actually possible, and commercially viable then say WHY you feel it would be. Personally, I think next year they will install a coaster based off RCT3, where in pre-show, you design your own coaster including height, launch speed, train and track style, demolishing any buildings or other attractions that stand in the way of what you're trying to build, and then when you enter the load zone - you get to board YOUR coaster design!!!

Yeah - if it's already on Parkz - I don't see a need for it to be duplicated in multiple threads. I'm sure Mark can decide the relevance of information he posts about his park. Just my opinion.

As an avid fan of the park, Demon holds much Nostalgic value for me. Bit in this case - it's time for that ride to die a horrible death - and i'm sure it will achieve that operating in India. The Wonderla rumors came out years ago - but nothing was confirmed anywhere, and we wrote it off as just another rumor... RCDB confirmed it about 2 months ago.