Everything posted by DaptoFunlandGuy
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Calls for Light Rail extension to Movie World, Sea World
The GCCC has had it in their 2031 transport plans since at least 2013. All proposed extensions are still subject to technical assessment and broader government funding, as well as contributions from private developers in some cases. In 2019, the proposed airport line was announced additional funding to cross the tweed border, and the spit line is said to be unlikely until after the airport line is done - so its not impossible, but its also very low on the priority list.
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Calls for Light Rail extension to Movie World, Sea World
I'm going to surprise a lot of folks here and defend Village on this point - To be honest, GCB put this out, not village. The shoot is in front of Flash and i'm sure no doubt Bikash was wanting to promote the new attractions before the busy holiday season (despite none of those new attractions opening this season). I'm quite sure that was the whole reason for the photoshoot and interview. I have no evidence, but I would not be surprised if a few casual remarks about how good it would be if there was a better transit connection to the parks got rolled into a full blown article by a click-hungry "media" outlet. With, or even without support of Bikash \ the park in publishing it. As they say though, any publicity is good publicity. We've discussed a tram on the Spit before. There's loads of issues with doing that. This is a bit old, but have a read of Sea World updates 2016 - Page 15 - Theme Park Discussion - Parkz Forums - Theme Park Community for a bit of discourse on the various pros and cons.
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Calls for Light Rail extension to Movie World, Sea World
neither the koala research facility nor the rollercoaster were public infrastructure. This has been debated to death. The funding was granted to dreamworld to build and manage a facility that they would have been responsible for ongoing management, costs, maintenance etc. It was then approved by the government to be reallocated to other purposes in the middle of a pandemic. Because a lot of projects were stalled, halted or outright abandoned during Covid, with government funds repurposed to projects aimed at keeping businesses afloat. Whether or not you agree with how the government handled covid, nobody can change how it happened, and nobody can know what would have changed if it were done differently. A public transport service, built on public land, to be operated by the government at government expense, benefitting village without them having to pony up a single scrap of risk, effort or coin is not the same thing. I'm all for G-Link coming to the northern gold coast, but if Village is keen to see light rail servicing the Oxenford property directly, perhaps they could put their money where their mouth is?
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Dreamworld Flyer
So you were in a country with 129 parks for work, and didn't visit one, then left to visit a country recreationally with 18 parks, but you stayed in a place with zero parks so approximately 0% of your recreation time was spent visiting the local parks? I'm afraid you're going to need to hand in your Thoosie Card.
- Calls for Light Rail extension to Movie World, Sea World
- Dreamworld Flyer
- Dreamworld Flyer
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Dreamworld Flyer
Thanks, that helps explain a lot. It's kinda hard to understand someone just saying "it's shit" without understanding why, especially when there are other examples out there that nobody has critiqued as harshly. I can understand your position better now, thanks. It hadn't occurred to me that climbing kids would be a reason for the install but now it's been said it's the only real reason I can see for them going down this route. Glass would have been nicer, but a lot more expensive. Look, understanding the specifics of the complaint, as well as seeing examples of how it might have been improved upon and I can understand the position. Like most other things in-park, we as a community are far more likely to have an opinion on how it could\should be done. The thing is, some folk will be content to sit back and point out things they don't like, and (preferably) suggest how they would have done it differently. Other folk will go so far down the rabbit hole they end up working for companies that do this sort of thing for a living and actually make those suggestions \ changes in the design phase. Sometimes, this results in an improved product delivery because the enthusiasts became the designers. (We have a number of people on the forums who have taken that route, though I won't identify them as it's not my place to do so). Sometimes though, the park may not wish to spend the extra on plussing the design - so sometimes we end up with more basic installs, for whatever reason. We're still allowed to discuss it though - that's the whole purpose of this place. Honestly looking at before and after photos (and with no industry insights whatsoever) I feel like the facade could have been kept, if that's what they wanted to do. They probably should have kept it too. Preserving it in front of whatever new bits they needed would have cost a lot more than what was built though, and therein lies the rub. I agree it doesn't look so out of place anymore, and I think the white walls will make a great canvas for the light package at night. It is something i'd like them to fix up, but not anything i want them to prioritise over the other parts of the park people have mentioned. Cosmetic changes are things they should look at when everything else has been done, and they've still got money left over. Reskinning the building isn't going to change the ride experience. Perhaps when the ride has had a good run and they decide to change it up with a new unique film, they could incorporate facade changes to match the new film, but just changing it as a matter of course, I don't see the point.
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- The Flash: Speed Force coming to Movie World
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The Flash: Speed Force coming to Movie World
Being fair, for a subscriber who is signed in on their device, they may not even register that the article is going to be paywalled when they share the link. That said, these forums are a good source for historic info, which is why it is preferred to upload images to the site rather than hotlink to other sites - because when other sites inevitably break those links, the images are no longer accessible \ viewable in the discussion. By the same token, it would be good practice to share at least the text of the article (suitably quoted and referenced of course) when sharing an article link, regardless of whether it is paywalled or not, because then at least the content is accessible even if the original source takes the article down or breaks the links.
- The Flash: Speed Force coming to Movie World
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Dreamworld launches online Merch store
The title describes the thing. Dreamworld has launched a new online Merch store. Shop from five different outlets in the park including the Main Street Emporium, Tiger Island Bazaar, Fairytale Treasures, and the Lego certified Store (though the lego store redirects to a different site, the remaining in-park outlets are all hosted on the same site). Dreamworld Merch Shop
- Cedar Fair has merged with Six Flags in a $2 billion all stock deal
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Village Key
The only people I know who purchased the key are significantly younger than me, and I am younger than a 'boomer' (who by the way are people currently in their 60s). The key appears to be an absolute failure. It has slow uptake, and its clear the benefits have been pretty much forgotten about. I reckon they make more money from their TikTok subscribers given the effort they've put into that. This could have been a really cool VIP membership program for the park's greatest fans and instead - yep - nerfed.
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Current State of Sea World
Trawling back looking for something else and came across this - and i'm wondering @joz whether now we have Atlantis open and Flume removed - is there another chapter to add on how the park is going?
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Dreamworld Flyer
This view is also lacking any buildings whatsoever for plant room, operator booth, or queue line. It's also not the entry view, and is looking from the claw side of the attraction, given the globe is left, sky voyager straight ahead, and the candy and ice cream shop further down. However it also show's Kenny's \ the food court buildings, so perspective is a little off, which is to be expected, because... IT'S AN ARTISTS IMPRESSION AND CLEARLY NOT CONSTRUCTION PLANS - which we've all been able to view for months now, so again, this shouldn't have come as a surprise.
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Beetlejuice is returning to Movie World
From what i've heard Betelgeuse as a character is only returning for the Hooray event, probably cashing in on \ promoting the new film. I do hope they get a gravelly older guy to play the character. Keaton was in his late thirties when the first film was made, and he's in his 70's now. A young adult just wouldn't play the same, IMO. I also hope they stay true to the character and let him go with innuendo \ not be too PC. Not sure they could, but if they were going to reopen show-stage as a stage venue, something akin to Rockin Graveyard Review would be a winner.
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Luna Park's New $15 Million immersive attraction- The Dream Circus
I used to work for a company that held the in-house contract for the Big Top. Christmas Parties for sure were popular, but they aren't enough to sustain the venue. There are so many other spaces out there and competition has always been fierce. Naturally this always meant there was pressure on to reduce prices to remain competitive, or throw in other inclusions like rides \ attractions. Now LPS has redeveloped Maloney's Corner into Luna Land, along with BD3, they are running out of space they can use for opportunities like this. Judging by the social media post, it doesn't sound like clients had contracts in place, and venue availability isn't a guarantee. A few corporate christmas parties isn't anything to cry over (and if the venue reopens for those sorts of events, those 'annoyed clients' would be straight back on board, asking for discounts and ride inclusions once again. A simple template. it wouldn't be too hard to drop in some client logos, or dressy backgrounds. It doesn't have to be as fully immersive as the show itself. I never liked Big Top. If it didn't exist, then sure - but it's here, and as a facility it doesn't really lend itself to nostalgia. If it weren't being used for this attraction, it'd be an empty shell of a venue used for special events only - which isn't really as efficient a use of the space as an attraction that is open and making money every day of the week. As you say - its being done by the best in the business... Now you're catching on.
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Cedar Fair has merged with Six Flags in a $2 billion all stock deal
You sound really confident about that, but I wouldn't be so sure. Its a strong park, and can stand on it's own. If the group tried to close it down they'd get crucified, and selling it would be a HUGE mistake. As for land values - The area surrounding it is a lot of residential property. It's not a potential hub of industry at the junction of two major arterial highways. It's nowhere near Wonderland as a comparison. As far as attendances, Knott's ranks near the top of the group. Of the 11 Cedar Fair parks in this analysis, Knott's is beaten only by Cedar Point itself. Revenue wise, its about the same, or larger than Cedar Point too. No. While much is uncertain as a result of this merger - one thing is for sure - Knott's isn't going anywhere.
- Cedar Fair has merged with Six Flags in a $2 billion all stock deal
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Cedar Fair has merged with Six Flags in a $2 billion all stock deal
My initial reply to this would have suggested there wouldn't be much difference given the distances and the locals for each park have little crossover, but the more I worked through it the more interesting it became. If knott's were to close, I feel like the majority of their tourism attendance would move to another Disney day, or just spend time around the Anaheim resort precinct. Locals on the other hand visit Knott's because they don't like the bustle (and robbery) of the D bubble. If MM were to close however - the solution is less obvious. The park's bread and butter are youths\young adults who are *relatively* local to the area, and seeking thrills, not experiences. The nearest big park is Universal, but it's a very different experience and not really what an Adrenaline junkie is looking for. I'd wager Universal would pick up some of the market simply due to geography, but those who have the ability to travel... Would they go all the way to Knotts for an Adrenaline fix?
- One Pass Lite
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One Pass Lite
Village seem to have quietly dropped a cheaper locals One Pass recently. The One Pass Lite - priced at $179 - is $40 cheaper than the normal Locals One Pass (and $120 cheaper than the full priced One Pass). The lite version of the pass has: No White Christmas No Carnivale No Spooky Nights BLACKOUT DATES - From Boxing day to January 15th. For me, we rarely do the night events, even though they've been included in our passes for some time. We will go if friends are going, but mainly because we've got them for free. The current 'value' of the night events shown on the locals passes (ie $89 for WC, $69 for Carnivale and Spooky Nights) is not a price i'd pay separately. But considering we rarely use the night passes when we do have them this is an easy way for us to save over $100 on the next renewal (assuming we renew). We tend to avoid the Christmas holiday period entirely. The parks are stupid at that time of year so the blackout dates don't impact us at all. Overall, its a bit of a coin flip for us. If we went to just one night event it would pay off to buy the higher priced pass. If there were a bigger price gap - even marginally more, it might tip the scales for me - but at the very least its nice that they're finally offering locals a product that just gets them into the park regularly without bundling it with night events and resort stays. ETA: as long as they stick by the blackout dates this time. Back in the VIP days, they offered VIP with blackout, and VIP gold without blackout, and the first day of the blackout dates they had a bunch of families try to enter with VIP passes and caused a stink when they weren't allowed in - so the company folded and quietly deleted the blackout dates. Here's hoping the new investment firm have more of a spine.