DaptoFunlandGuy

That seems.... expensive for some, reasonable for others. Next year they're rebranding as the Ekka.

I had that thought, but regardless of the work going on, if they're not going to hoard the building while they do it, they should ensure it's "show ready" before they open. A few minutes with a hose is all this needed when it was fresh. Jinx!

Remember this site wasn't designed specifically for the carousel. I think the queue borrowed from LTRR a little, and the ride sits on the site of the old merch shop, so space would have been a consideration. This control panel is similar to what was opposite for Pounce and Bounce - rather than the more elaborate panels for Tweety, for example. I guess this position would have permitted them visibility of the gates, the ride and the queue, but given the space around the carousel, putting it 'facing' the ride would have required it to be placed further back, and then standing room behind it is also required, so it looks like space compromises, while perhaps also reducing how much ground is dug up to run cable. *Everything said above is speculation based on my own observations and knowledge. I do not claim to be an expert and i'm certainly not a MW insider. Take this info at face value and note that I could be entirely wrong. Side note - I heard Tweety's floor is being dug up and changes are being made to the control panel over there too.

I don't know how much of a difference it would make, but the current control panel faces outwards towards main street. Looking at the design this one looks like it will be similar to Tweety's where the ride operator's default view will be centred on the carousel. Keeping the panel in the same direct line of sight as the actual ride can reduce reaction time if an e-stop is required. *shrug*

"From the park that bought you Shockwave Bondage: The Ride, and Logride Whiplash Bar" I'm not sure i'd be holding up, as a standard to aspire to, a park that has made some terrible risk assessment decisions in the past. Happy to be proven wrong on this, but didn't Superman only get repainted a few years ago after we discussed how horrible it looked for several years? And wasn't that the first repaint since it opened in 04?

Considering all options - perhaps they want to demolish the track, and they needed to use the track to get the trains out of the park first? #YouAsked. Seriously though, I can categorically rule out the loss of the monorail. How do I know? Because Bikash told us we'd hear it from them first:

I saw the posts by the demo company last night, but they were captioned 'out with the old, in with the new'. Take from that what you will, but that suggests to me that they've gotten new trains. Given as we understood it, the existing fleet was aging, cannibalised parts to keep at least one in service, the fleet was definitely past it's prime. If Sea World springs new trains on us, it will be an amazing surprise they've managed to keep it under wraps this long into the plans. I do hope we see a MkII train, integrated air conditioning, and all the modern safety features you see in today's transport. Village execs assured everyone when Monorail was taken out of service for construction that it would return. I do hope that they honour that promise.

Dreamworld basically did that when they had "minimum rider" numbers for a cycle a while back.

I understand that, but that's why I say you can't make it any smaller - it might stop heads getting caught but smaller hole will increase risk of limbs getting caught. the cam only just sits above the panelling. if you were to raise the roof high enough you'd need to lift the entire carousel up by that same height. Agree - some sort of sock would be the way to go. Sounds like a relatively simple fix.

You don't need to open your eyes and ears if you can just turn off the ability for your guests to leave a comment or review!

I have, but they aren't there anymore.

Yep, everything you say is entirely possible - but it doesn't change the potential that the park pushed for it to be done a certain way - a kind of 'make it happen' attitude. S&S aren't exactly top-shelf manufacturers, and they were getting a real foot-hold on the gold coast and competing with the big boys. If you could deliver, you could potentially look at 'favoured supplier' status - like Vekoma\Arrow and Intamin before them. Notice though how S&S aren't building anything on the coast these days? I'm fairly certain I remember reading something about MW having a 3-ride-deal with S&S and once the GL incident happened that evaporated.

Yep. Pretty reasonable safety restriction, especially being as far as they are from medical services in the event that something goes badly wrong. The forces on that thing look pretty intense.

Pretty sure that says 'INFORMATION TAG' and is pretty standard in terms of 'safety inspections' - these are in the same ballpark as 'out of service' tags when it comes to plant and equipment safety inspections. I don't know about this specific model, but the cam design on most carousels does have a fair amount of play. Keeping the hole that wide ensures that if anyone were to stick an appendage into the hole it wouldn't get pinched between the moving pole and the stationary sides of the hole. If you decrease that diameter, you increase the pinch risk. Brushes might also encourage kids to try to touch them.

The biggest problem for Movie World right now - beyond everything else mentioned in this thread (or even on this site in other threads and articles), is this: As long as those turnstiles keep spinning, bean counters don't think there is a problem. Experience based managers who walk the park and talk to guests, who view the park through the eyes of a guest and say 'this won't do at all' are going to see the unhappy faces and do something early. Folks who look at attendance charts in a boardroom don't know how pissed off they're making people until they stop coming. ...and then they stand there and wonder why.

Controversial opinion - I think Village got very lucky with the GL incident. The El Loco had not been done with a 4-abreast car - this was a special for MW. They were also trumpeting steepest drop until that got snatched away at the last minute too. Of course, the safety and engineering of the design comes back on the manufacturer every time (and that's why the investigation outcome was what it was) but I wonder how much of that was instigated by the park pushing the need for the larger capacity cars. I suppose the El Loco hasn't had a perfect safety record outside of MW either though, so probably easier to let S&S wear it... but we'll never know the full truth on that.

I think that was floated before but I think the argument was they don't currently have the maintenance teams to do more than 1-2 rides at a time, so if you tried to do all rides in a 3-4 month window, you probably wouldn't get them all done without additional staff who would be redundant the other 8-9 months of the year.

Since we're picking this apart, don't forget, Paradise Country and the Dreamworld Wildlife section should pretty much cancel each other out.

Don't forget the scooby fire eyes.

Considering the recent discussions about people wanting to visit parks where 'safety and maintenance' are a thing - I guarantee the family man's wallet looks at that price difference and opts for Dreamworld, provided the park has enough to occupy the family.

The business as a whole should have policies in place, but if it doesn't, that is a direct responsibility of the people whom are charged with running it. If the folks who lead to the neglect and dangerous conditions (and were negligent) have since left the company, and the folks who now steer that ship have demonstrated that the policies that should have been in place now are, and have cleaned house - both by getting rid of negligent people but also getting rid of non-compliant equipment and machinery - (see also: closed rides) then it stands to reason that it deserves the perception to change. The park DID kill people. the park IS responsible for the incident and the conditions that lead to it, but THAT park is not the park that it is today. As for those screenshots - let me sum those up: Every park has a history of maintenance and safety until they don't. Dreamworld argued prior to the incident that they shouldn't need independent inspection because of how good their safety systems were. Movie World was a few loose bolts away from killing more than 4 people, and would have been tarred with that same brush. Don't just judge a company's history - judge it's people. The guy is protesting the loss of the Sky Loop. I think we've heard from him here already. As for the ride losses - why is Rapids understandable, but log flume isn't, considering Sea World also closed their homemade log flume? Tower and Wipeout were both end of life, and Buzz was an ongoing maintenance problem for the park and lacked capacity (and guest interest)- All these rides are 'understandable' in context. The only issue is they happened all at once, but better to wipe the board clean and start fresh with a new team than to continue trying to band-aid things to keep them running and avoid the major capital expenditure the park desperately needs. This guy is talking out his arse. He reckons Taipan is "a tenth" of the DC Rivals height. Taipan is 128ft to Rivals 200ft, but if his view is that being a hypercoaster is all it needs to be the best then i'm not sure I want to give any weight to anything else he says. Yes, Dreamworld has an image problem, and with so many recent ride removals its going to take a little while to build up their core offering. Memory fades over time, but they also need to show what has changed and give everyone a good reason to return and see for themselves. The media doesn't help, but all fades in time. All said and done, if Ardent were to sell to a new owner, even if the shareholders and management stayed much the same, it'd probably be an enormous step in convincing people things had "changed" even though they have already.

This is the most ridiculous explanation for something i've seen this year.

inb4 somebody mentions sight lines.

Yeah, it's private certifier archiving. it's not a controversial development or anything requiring council consideration, there are no documents attached and it's already approved. There is nothing groundbreaking here, and the name says it all - it's the lego refurb.