DaptoFunlandGuy

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Oh my young padawan. Dreamworld let the Eureka Mountain Mine Train stand, not operating, from 2006 to 2017. The motivation to do ANYTHING with it was probably born out of the loss of Thunder River and the need to either restore it to operating condition (a ludicrous concept by park management) or to demolish it (as the rest of Goldrush needed to be anyway). As for not having a new attraction in 4 years - bear in mind that two of those years was in a pandemic, and the parks suffered numerous shutdowns in that time Movie World is part of a group - and as long as i've followed these parks, the parks have usually taken it in turns to get something new (although Wet N Wild suffered for a few years from lack of attention) BOTH of the other 'ride' parks in the chain - SW and WNW are seeing new attractions constructed this year. Atlantis was supposed to be finished last year, and WnW was this year's plan. Which means MW's next attraction may not be far off (although do bear in mind we've seen a lot of refurb work going on too - RoadRunner is about to open with a new train and ride system). Steel Taipan Vs. Leviathan - putting aside any issues or delays with construction - just comparing the actual ride that will eventually open - 'much better' and 'modern' aren't really any sort of justification. Wooden coasters are being built every year around the world. They are traditionally older technology but that doesn't mean the current rides being built are old. Each have their own points of difference. I think it will be a very hard thing for even the coast's most astute enthusiasts to categorically state one is so much better than the other - just 'different' and 'in their own way'. It does remain to be seen however - so passing judgment now, whatever the outcome, is foolish. Anyhow - with all that said - I don't see how you can justify that MW will be declining in 10 years time, simply for the reasons you state. In the past 5 years, Dreamworld killed four people, and removed (or will soon remove) 7 or more attractions, and have only installed two new ones, and yet, with that track record, you're saying Dreamworld is on the rise, and this is apparently and ostensibly because of Steel Taipan? One coaster does not a good park make. I'll leave you with this - 10 years is a long time. 10 years ago - Movie World opened Green Lantern. Also 10 years ago - Dreamworld opened Buzzsaw.

If only there was a thread, or a youtube video explaining why Disney (and even Six Flags) won't be building in Australia (yes, even in Sydney) anytime soon. I agree the Badgery's Creek Airport is RIPE for someone to come in with a greenfields plan - but I think you need to revise your expectations to a more 'plausible' level. Just for the record - i'm a grouchy bastard naturally and it has nothing to do with age. Jobe is older than me and is one of the nicest guys in this community that I know. You've been here 17 years and contributed an average of 6 posts a year. I honestly don't think we're going to miss your offering of 'real feedback'. I've been here 17 years too, and in that time I don't think there's been another person (that wasn't a troll) that was so categorically unwilling to accept that anyone else would have a different point of view. Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya. Adios.

Is that the one in China or the one in Tweed?

I mean - it fits. And it saves them having to erect the giant fork on top too.

Do bear in mind those tourism figures need a little salt - as we know from Covid quarantine bills being issued by the NSW government to other states - Sydney is one of the largest arrivals airport for international tourists - but not all of them stay on in Sydney...

Although we know there's a huge difference between an Invert and an SLC, they look 'the same' to normies, and just like people mistook Vortex for Wipeout in a new spot, I feel like a B&M invert would be seen by folk as 'lethal\arkham'. I think though that a Flyer would be perceived by most as 'next level invert' - A flyer looks 'the same' in station until it moves into the 'flying' position, so identifiably different, but familiar enough most people wouldn't shit themselves looking at it.

I love everything about this idea except this. The costs of registration should be going to the charitable organisation. The fundraising should be an option, but it shouldn't be required. Operational costs should be met by the sponsors. If a family of 5 decides to join - they've all paid between $100-170 total to participate, and in turn they've got to find an additional $100 to squeeze out of friends and family? Are they not allowed to participate if they don't meet their fundraising goal? do they get their registration fee back? Sounds less like a fun run and more like a fund run.

"I watched ads on your other videos, so I should get all your videos for free forever!" Yeah. Ok Karen.

Did you have stoke? You've no idea the particular set of circumstances that lead to Wonderland's demise. First of all, recall that the park operated for close to 20 years. Hardly a failure - at least for the first 15. Furthermore, with that attitude, why should anyone ever think about building a park anywhere? Someone get in the time machine and tell Uncle Walt not to bother - he's got zero chance. The only park that has zero chance is the one that isn't built. What is wrong with the manufacturers mentioned? they are quite well known names in the industry. They're not top-tier, but a regional park trying to grow can't pick top tier manufacturers or they'll go broke before they've seen a return on investment. Personally, I think a single expansion, going from current state to all of that mentioned above is ambitious and fraught with very high risk - however an organic expansion, adding a new ride every season or two based on available funds, increase visitation and marketing would be a way to go and in 10 years or so maybe you've built something worthy of a destination, or at the very least a detour. As for being realistic @pazzap - you're the one that wants to keep a maintenance nightmare, and remove a just-refurbished coaster, or spend more money reprofiling it simply because it isn't to your taste. If you're going to insist that people's proposals be realistic - perhaps you could start with your own.

This says they've been working with Dreamworld and VRTP for the last two years - i'm not seeing why (if these guys are hot shit) leviathan would be delayed for these reasons? this seems to be a perfect explanation as to why engineering safety signoffs aren't the issue.

I'm just gonna keep it simple and say a flyer. The ride experience is unique enough to anything else in the country that it would be worth travelling to experience it. Putting aside the enthusiast element, the general public aren't going to recognise much of a difference in one sit-down ride to another, except if it goes upside down or not - but a flyer - you can tell straight away how different it is to anything else we already have.

This is actually the best bit of theming they've done so far - i've seen so many snake handlers put snakes into hessian sacks, so I guess this tells the story that the steel taipan has been caught! CRIKEY!

YOU sir, win Parkz today.

^i said maybe. Sod off.

I mean, I know its in a different league in terms of population and traffic, but Buffalo Bill's had Desperado for over 20 years (although it's had its fair share of ups and downs 🤣) on I15 between LA and Vegas. Coffs is a city on the verge of change - the bypass will see a lot of reduced traffic through the town, but it's still a holiday destination too - not just a town reliant on travellers passing through. The big banana has been trying to re-invent itself for years and I think their latest plans do look strong enough to convince people to detour off the bypass. Perhaps not today, but in the near future, the evolution of Coffs will permit a proper full size coaster and that should have all our support! Back to HVG - I love the concept, but I fear HVG is too far from the big destinations to be a day trip, but will be too small to warrant an overnight stay - even with the other elements in the area (in my personal experience, wineries are not the usual hang-outs of outside-park-hours theme park goers). You haven't mentioned anything about the structure of admission - is this a pay-per-ride structure like the old Luna ticketing system or a gated admission park like the GC? or a free-admission, buy a wristband to ride system like the current luna system? I'm not sure the locals will support gating the gardens, so it seems like you need individual ticket purchase (which tends to limit riders to a once-and-done mentality) or 'unlimited wristband' sessions - which needs to be priced affordably to convince purchase but sufficiently to cover all potential operating costs. It's a dicey choice for a new venture without being located in a tourism hotspot. I know of your particular preference for HVG, but I feel like anything new for NSW probably needs to be closer to Sydney. I do feel like the Badgery's Creek Airport will lend itself well to development of previously remote rural land - Hong Kong Disneyland probably wouldn't have gone ahead if it weren't for the new HK airport being built on Lantau island. Similarly I think any theme park for NSW needs to be based closed to mass tourism transport corridors - and with Badgery's Creek, south western greater sydney basin farmland becomes a really viable option.

I mean - maybe I asked for this so I can't really complain. I can see what they were going for but the template edges have been done as straight lines so you can see the square borders too and that makes it look horrible. I want to hope this is a 'work in progress' and it isn't finished yet, but it looks like they've cleaned up so i'd say that's it. I don't know - at least they tried? On a brighter note though - After thinking we were going to get plain black cyclone fencing, I want to say that the white\grey school fencing is a much nicer look. I said TEXTURE! TEXTURE! Not painted dots!

You're wrong. Dealing with us - none of them have any sanity left.

Oh sod off.

Posting this not to chastise you but to ensure people see it. This post is actually pinned to the top of the theme parks discussion sub, but as most people (like me) only go to 'unread content' - pinned posts are quickly and easily overlooked. *i'm not a mod - just a long-term member begging for people to preserve what's left of his sanity.

I mean, I agree with you, but at the same time, investment firms don't have to actually improve something to sell it for a profit. You can just shuffle the books to change the value and voila! Take a look at Dick Smith Electronics.

Honestly we're up to 9 pages.... we've done pretty well.

Were those trains new from the ground up (or should I say the track down?) - The Kumbak trains used the same 'purple train' rolling stock in service from Lethal Weapon. Are the new Vekoma trains just replacement hangers \ seats \ harnesses? or was it brand new everything?

Why?

As usual, you shot straight past obtuse into reflex territory.