DaptoFunlandGuy

queue wise, wheel of brisbane has a large ramped queue line in between the pylons. it wouldn't be difficult to shadesail the queueline. when i said space, I should have said footprint. I did acknowledge it would go up.

It was just a suggestion, and one i felt would fit in the area. TBH, I love the idea of the big Kings Carousel style there too - so thanks DjKostya for actually giving an example. A much improved fountain wouldn't be a terrible idea, but one could integrate the fountain concept with a wheel concept just as they have in brisbane. As for the view of the carpark - Disney (when the monorail went out over the carpark, prior to DCA) used to make a game out of 'spot your car from the monorail'. The positioning would still give a great outlook over the whole park including some great aerial angles for the new coaster and many other parts of the park - something I know you @Gazza have strategically used at other parks to get good ride photos. it gives main street a focal point you can see from other parts of the park (and outside it) The space it would occupy is already occupied by the current fountain, so it isn't taking up MORE space, and in fact would take up less of the space than currently occupied. Sure it would go upwards, but the structure is virtually see-through. it's not like a huge looming metal shed - plus they could put a pretty neat lights package on it as part of the night time laser \ light shows etc. The issue with placement at the TOT station position is ground level. While I can't speak for accuracy, I checked nearmap as my own impression of land height is that the entrance was higher than most of the area near ToT. Its a downhill slope. According to Nearmap, (using google land heights) the fountain at the entrance is approximately 12 metres A.S.L. and the point beyond the tower station (because it measures the height of the station if i stop on the station building itself) is about 7 metres A.S.L. The nearmap height measurements increase that - and tells me that the top of the TOT station building is the same height as the fountain. I know the accuracy of that info is not reliable, but it illustrates the height difference. With a 50 metre wheel, you're losing 20% of it's height advantage by placing it in the gully that was. Per Gazza's request, here's the bodgiest mspaint job you've ever seen. the scales are matched, and this uses the wheel of brisbane (and smaller models are possible). Unfortunately I only had 90 degree rotation tools, so I couldn't turn it EXACTLY to the position that would have cleared the pylons into the right spot. Remember that the space the wheel occupies isn't ground occupied space, so there would be significant clearance outside of the pylons.

*pulls up pot, grabs spoon* Village: puts on seal show aimed at kids. Shows are still reasonably well patronised. "IT'S CRAP AND THEY SHOULD CATER TO A WIDER AUDIENCE" Dreamworld: has niche shop occupying prime real estate aimed at young girls. Shop is still well patronised. "ITS POPULAR SO THEY SHOULD KEEP IT!" ...Just stirring...

Does anyone have any info on the history of the fairy store? its been there as long as I can remember, but damned if I can see what makes it so popular to deserve the prime real-estate of right beside the gate entry. Agree, removing that building to widen the thoroughfare for the new coaster, and pathways to that side of the park would be nice.

I did up a boxed space the wheel would likely have fit into at the start of my post. the line was just comparison with an existing wheel. the space that's been described as 'chaotic' with " bright LEGO store, the white clean SV, simple, but bright stores and food outlets and a fairy store. " ? I feel something needs to be changed about that space. i'm open to suggestions.

A fair point - however my point has always been that the private equity firms are always going to do whatever generates them the most money regardless of the legacy they leave behind.

Got any better ideas? How about a revolving observation tower? Looking for something that ticks the boxes for family footprint and fun, suited to the current area. But you're stuck with Sky Voyager as a brand new attraction, so if anything is going its main street outlets and fairy store. Lego is modern, as is SV. We've already knocked down the cinema, might as well reimagine the whole area into something cohesive, rather than the 'chaos' we've got now.

...and those volatile film production/distribution companies occupy a large chunk of land right in the middle of the theme park "precinct". They currently work together harmoniously, with the many trades cross-utilised between the studios and the parks, and facilities shared. If they were owned by separate companies, there would be a loss of symbiosis that currently exists on the oxenford lot.

Pandamonium.

Reverse Freefall Coaster coming to Hamburg, Germany CONFIRMED!

But with every council in Australia installing a splashpad in their downtown area and calling it a waterpark, you kinda have to give them a pass on that one, right?

Things like the water wheel are also incredibly important to your subconscious - kinetic energy draws the eye - so have things moving about. (While we're talking about waterwheels, the one on Wild West has stopped too). Little details, things that move are pleasing to the eye and make it feel more real and immersive - you're not standing in front of a matte painting. Take a look at any theme park ad anywhere - in the background there are always rides in motion, people walking, bunches of balloons being peddled by a street seller. it creates environment. Now, perhaps an unpopular opinion - but i'd like to see Dreamworld do something different with the Main Street fountain. Cut it out like this - basically complete the circle that the deck has started. Put another 'Dreamworld' sign on the other side providing twice the opportunity for selfies and family photos (in the near future, the new rollercoaster would be in the background of the opposite view). Clear the space shown in the above image and put something kinetic in that space. A ride, yes, not just some mechanical doo-dad. My first thoughts are a large ferris wheel - and the Wheel of Brisbane, as an example, would fit - (Although, it doesn't have to be that big either) This would affect the previously mentioned idea of the double sided globe, but it would give kinetic energy to main street that is lacking, and a far more impressive photo location than what you currently get behind you if you take a 'globe' photo. The wheel is one example, and one i know will be polarising. I'm sure there's others out there with a lot more ride knowledge that could suggest something better - but returning the fountain, whilst visually pleasing, isn't really offering a point of difference to what's available up the road at westfield (in fact, westfield offers a much better water fountain installation), and that space could be so much better utilised, installing a 'ride for the whole family' right next to Sky Voyager, which is also well suited to families, bringing some energy to main street and pulling guests away from Ocean Parade - a nice 'mid station' stop on the way between the big coasters at each corner of the front of the park... thoughts?

But Joz, it wasn't the only thing being hyped! They had a nighttime water fountain spectacular in the lake that they were telling everyone about (if you pay extra, only on certain nights, may already be sold out because a whole bunch of people got free passes). They had carnivale! You should not be bummed! You should hand them your wallet and be thankful there is a park willing to take as much of your money as possible! Did they pump a stack of money into the business? or did they leverage assets and take on debt to fund the makeover? Most private equity firms seek to squeeze the money out of the business. decisions are made based on "how tight can we squeeze" rather than "what will make our guest's day better?" The end game of private equity is to make as much money as possible. They don't have experience in running specialised operations - like theme parks. They'll keep on existing management, tied to 'earn-on' contracts, or they'll find a guy who knows how to run a theme park who is currently out of work (a big red flag in itself) to do it. OR they'll bring in an airline safety specialist, or a food and beverage and hospitality manager - because its all tourism and leisure right? Once they have extracted the purchase price out of the business, anything else they do with it really doesn't matter because everything else is profit. the second it stops supporting itself, and starts losing money, and therefore, requires more capital injected to keep it running - they'll cut their losses and sell up shop, and at any price to any buyer, because they've already made their money back. (See also: Dick Smith Electronics - a business bought for $115M from Woolworths, but Anchorage only paid $10M, and in a splendid demonstration of corporate accounting, managed to float the business a couple years later for $520M, only to see it fold a few short years later.) As you say - they aim to sell them off for a profit. In many cases, the whole is worth less than the sum of its parts, and we could see each park, asset and business sold off separately, which at the very least, means far more expensive annual passes for those who like to visit all the parks on the coast. Thats definitely a matter of opinion. To continue on - if they do cash splash based on loading debt onto the business, and then they can't flip it, if they've made their returns on the business, the only thing left to do is liquidate. If only there was a global economy downturn, an outbreak of a viral disease, and the collapse of a national air carrier to blame things on, it'd be a perfect exit!

Solely? No. but you might have been weighing up timing for a visit based on multiple other attractions you'd yet to see, and taken the plunge based on the firm 'december' date previously given...

Anything that isn't already financially committed by contract will probably get cancelled. They're intending on paying a premium for the business, and they're in the business of making money, not spending it. I will say, while i know this artwork hasn't impressed everyone who has seen it, it is nice to see village advertising a ride coming soon before the ride has actually started testing, and not pretending it doesn't exist. We all throw mud at them for things like what happened with Wild, but then lambast them when they won't promote things ahead of opening day. They can't win either way, but at least they're trying some teaser material again. Although.... by all accounts it was supposed to be open by now... so let's not give them TOO much credit... also, its very clearly an edited original, and the coming soon is definitely an afterthought as seen by the much larger box surrounding it

Just a reminder - Probably would have been quicker to explain what was right...

Alex's middle name does start with a C, but it isn't Chuck. Last name does start with a B, but it isn't Blewitt either. You should stop lying skeet. People will fountain you.

I've drafted three different replies here. there's so much to say about what Sea World was, what it is, and what it should be. I'll just say 'everything Joz said below is right' and leave it at that.

Triton is based in BERMUDA! THE RETURN OF BERMUDA TRIANGLE HAS BEEN CONFIRMED! Those who lack a sense of humor - note, this is a joke. *sigh*

...and they send their crappiest ones!

Boneheaded comment of the month. It might be 'plausible' to assume. You might even stretch to say 'reasonable' to assume (even though, they literally service every populated continent in the world). But 'safe' to assume a german container is from germany, containing ride parts from a german manufacturer? Especially since we know that Mack ships rides in Hapag-Lloyd containers because they're cheaper, so its safe to assume that Hamburg-Sud containers won't be used to ship this one. I now post unequivocal proof that Mack doesn't use Hamburg-Sud containers, and its safe to assume i'm right.

If we're counting Buzz, then we count Green Lantern. And if we're going that far, then we should count Arkham due to its proximity to the studio carpark. HWSW stands on an old carpark and part of the old Dreamworld Parkway, and if memory serves, the lines still exist underneath it.

So is Cyclone\HWSW.

Judging by the yellow 'above head height' boards, and the flooring colour change, its probably somewhere near that arrow.

Like the time there was an evergreen shipping container spotted for ride construction and someone suggested people keep an eye out for 'evergreen' containers... Its a possibility, but not definitive.